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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: Bear715 on Sun, 08 May 2011, 10:16:44
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Hey, I have heard a few reports that compared to other cherry boards, the Leopold's felt a little softer (and less tactile). Anybody have any experience with multiple cherry brown boards and able to give a solid comparison between the two? I can't really feel the tactility of my Leopold brown when i type fast but I am not sure if that is just how browns are until you get used to them or if the Leopold's have a mushier actuation point.
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That makes no sense. Same switch. The only "mushy" part of Leopolds may be the stabilized keys, which are Cherry Style, and some say those are mushier. Seems to me that most geekhackers prefer the Costar-style ones. I say don't sweat it over stabilizers. There are many things more important when you buy a kb. :)
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The Realforce doesn't even have stabilizers, except for the spacebar.
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But I'd think that the plunger mechanism is really good at not binding with keypresses that are off-center.
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That's not totally absurd though, right? Over the years, the plastic may have changed a bit....?
But if you take a Filco and a Leopold, both new, I wouldn't expect to feel much of a difference. Unless, you know, one has reds and the other has blues. >:D
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Oh dear, you just got yourself an awful mech keyboard that is mushy like the rubber dome. What a waste of money.
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Oh dear, you just got yourself an awful mech keyboard that is mushy like the rubber dome. What a waste of money.
Do spend some more time with it and learn not to bottom out.
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My Leopold's (both brown switches) feel different than my Filco with brown switches. They do feel like they have a little less of a bump to them. Only thing that's really different between the two is the key caps.
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I did hear from Korean webistes that leopold and filco do feel different. It's because of the stablizers and the board.
Filco feel more firm and sturdy when typing. The keycaps wobble less too.
Leopold feels more like a toy and make more that plastic sound when typing and in build quality.
That doesn't mean leopold has less build quality. Some ppl actually prefer Leopold more because of that particular parts I pointed out.
But in the switch wise, the mushy and brown feeling like that should be similar which brand it is.
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I dont know know but often times I find my Filco Browns to feel linear. The only Time i can even feel the bump is if I press the key slowly looking for the bump. On the other hand, the tactile feel on the blues is well, as tactile as a cherry switch can get.
I just think it's how the browns are.
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are you chinese?that avatar looks like...
that's right. he's a famous chinese kung fu master depicted in the major motion picture "kill bill"
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I dont know know but often times I find my Filco Browns to feel linear. The only Time i can even feel the bump is if I press the key slowly looking for the bump. On the other hand, the tactile feel on the blues is well, as tactile as a cherry switch can get.
I just think it's how the browns are.
It also depends on how old said switches are.
A vintage, worn-out MX11800 with browns will most likely not feel like a brand new Filco/Leopold/whatever.
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The Realforce doesn't even have stabilizers, except for the spacebar.
What should we call something underneath control, shift and return key?
I have called them stabilizers...
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I dont know know but often times I find my Filco Browns to feel linear. The only Time i can even feel the bump is if I press the key slowly looking for the bump. On the other hand, the tactile feel on the blues is well, as tactile as a cherry switch can get.
I just think it's how the browns are.
Indeed they are almost linear. Cherry should made Black, blue and ergoclears or red blue and ergoclears as main options. Browns and plain clears are both pointless options.
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What should we call something underneath control, shift and return key?
I have called them stabilizers...
Those are just regular switches without any additional stabilizer unlike the case of spacebar.
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Those are just regular switches without any additional stabilizer unlike the case of spacebar.
Actually I have not any Realforce, but at least 87U seems to have stabilizers on space, shifts, enter, backspace key.
And I'm sure that my HHKB pro has them only on space, left shift and return key.
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=2258&d=1239328041)
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My Realforce only has them on the spacebar as well.
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My Realforce only has them on the spacebar as well.
You should ask for a refund, a stabilizer on a topre board is worth 15$ :happy:
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Btw check the back side of the topre keycaps! There is no room for the stabilizer.
You can install them just like a regular switch.
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“When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
I presume you are speaking about two different boards/generations.
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Nope. I have seperate red keys as well. (right Shift, ISO Enter)
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Btw check the back side of the topre keycaps! There is no room for the stabilizer.
You can install them just like a regular switch.
You can install the key just like a regular one, even thogh the key have a stabilizer.
Topre stabilizers exists underneath the switch case, you can't see them without taking apart completely.
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I have taken it apart. It indeed has.
That's very clever stabilizer implementation of Topre.