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Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: brkim1324 on Tue, 10 May 2011, 17:25:49
I just received my Brown.
Filco Majestouch 2 Brown.
Red is Filco Majestouch 2 Red.

Just as I feared, it is quite similar to Red.
I now understand what ppl were saying when Brown feels linear when typing fast.
Here's simple comparison between Red and Brown in words.

For Brown users, if I compare Brown and Red,
Red has very similar audio feedback except no that little tactile sound when typing. So it is linear meaning, Red doesn't have any sound except bottoming out. If you want to hear the typical linear sound, you gotta put your Ear close to the keyboard.
Therefore, you are most likely to bottom out on Red.
For the feel of it Red feels very similar but no middle point. So just as you are imagining, it feels like.. nothing. Meaning like cloud... Yea.

For Red users, brown feels very similar and you will be a little disappointed if you expected something different like me. But as I have been playing SC2 and typing, I do feel some difference.
First, the force is heavier. Since there's the middle point, you gotta use a little more force when typing.
For the feel, it is hard to explain in words, but imagine there's this little bump that's like scratching while you are typing. So you can feel that scratch. It feels a little dirty if you are used to Red.
Like if you are used to linear, Brown's tactileness feel like there's something that's between the keycaps that's not suppose to be there.  
But what's different is, since there's this little bump you feel when you type, your fingers do know whether you typed or not. This is good for gamers if you want to know whether you typed or not.
Also for typers.  
For the audio feedback, it is very similar. If you type gently on the keyboard, you will almost hear nothing. But when Red really doesn't give make any sound if you cloud type, this does make a little sound. And if I must compare, it sounds like.. a good membrane keyboard, which is good.
In the sound wise, Red and Brown doesn't differ much. Brown has a little extra tactile sound it makes. So when Red sounds like something rubbing on a soft rock, Brown sounds more like pebbles hitting on to each other softly..

When it comes to which is lighter, they are really similar.
Blue is defintely heavier than these two.
But I would say because Red doesn't have that bump, Red feels lighter to me.
Especially when I game, Red hurt my fingers less. So I must say Red has lighter force.

Overall, Brown and Red are a little different but not much.
In the audio, Brown makes a little more sound.
In the tactile, Brown has that little bump which is also different from Blue tactile.
In the typing feel, Red feels very light, and Brown gives this little bump with a little more force.

The only major difference is Brown has bump, Red doesn't.
That's really about it.

So which is better? hmmm... they are different so it's really not comparable.
But I would say, Red and Brown are both very good for gaming.
I now know why so many progamers use Brown.
To me, I like Red more for SC2 which require lots of tapping.
But Brown is also very good.
Brown feels better in typing cause of the bump.
Red is really cloud typing, there's really nothing.. when you type.
But I do feel very small like a scratch or like rubbing on to something when you type on Red.
It is defintely not noticeable compare to Brown.

I think... maybe I will keep both.
Red and Brown are very nice keyboards.
Moreover, I think I can feel the difference between 1 and 2.
It's really hard to put in words, but 2 does feel more firm and deeper and more stable when typing.
They do feel different, at least to me.
I like 2 a little better. Maybe.. I will try Majestouch 2 blue even if I own Majestouch 1 blue.

Thank you for reading.

P.S. I heard non mechanical keyboard users complain on Brown that it is loud...
I.. don't understand what's loud about it.. like.. really..
it's really not noisy at all. Brown just whispers.. when Blue just makes high pitched click click.

EDIT: I just noticed that Red sound louder when bottoming out.
If I just tap on the keys, Red sounds louder than Brown.
Sounds more charming than Brown.
Brown is more like dark mood small kid whispering.
When Red is light, charming and cool personality kid.
Yea like cloud of boobs.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: mmmty on Tue, 10 May 2011, 17:32:54
If reds feel like typing on cloud of boobs then browns feel like typing on...
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: digitalleftovers on Tue, 10 May 2011, 17:49:11
Quote from: mmmty;344621
If reds feel like typing on cloud of boobs then browns feel like typing on...

Lumpy Boobs, or, as I like to call them, "tactile."
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: RAICHU on Tue, 10 May 2011, 18:33:58
Oh I see reds are like typing on boobs and browns are like typing on boobs with a cancerous lump in them. Got it. lol

In all seriousness, I was very interested in reading your comparison. To hear that they're quite similar is good because now I can just stick to browns and collect mechanical keyboards with browns.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: BaconKnight on Tue, 10 May 2011, 19:02:55
The way you format your posts look like you're writing an epic poem lol.

Thanks for the first hand impressions of red and brown. As someone who doesn't have either yet, it's informative to hear someone describe and compare them. Sounds like they're more similar than not in feeling and it's really if you want a small tactile bump or not. I was debating buying high quality keyboards of each type but maybe now I'll try see if I can get one really good keyboard of one type and find a low priced alternative for the other just to have/experiment with.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: mmmty on Tue, 10 May 2011, 19:14:09
When you're typing fast on lumpy boobs (browns) you don't feel the lumps/bumps. So it's like typing on cloud of boobs (reds). I think red switch is keyboard companies conspiring to make more money. Now everybody's got to try a keyboard with reds.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: RAICHU on Tue, 10 May 2011, 19:15:57
Quote from: ripster;344646
If you are going to have so many references to cloud of boobs at least show pics or .....
Show Image
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRftwYM1Y55PMOxXlDNFQ-_dbraoHqeO5XkgA0_4GVwOUpO5WHKcA)

Here you go. Mammatus clouds.

(http://www.treehugger.com/mammatus_clouds_colors.jpg)
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: NeoDiNardo on Tue, 10 May 2011, 19:18:26
Ripster, who refuses to divulge the inspiration for his avatar, rates the reds higher. What more proof do you need man!

In all seriousness, it gave me a bit of confidence to do the reds over the browns I had sold, due to a broken key. I plan on some blues next, and those two are different enough, but I don't think red and brown are worth owning together unless ur collecting them all like pokemon or something, for my money anyway, as they are the same type of overall feel to my memory of the browns, if not in a A to B comparison.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: mmmty on Tue, 10 May 2011, 19:30:59
F#@! reds and browns. I just got my Realforce 103U (variable weight) today and it kicks @$$. Better than HHKB Pro. It feels like cloud of DD.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: pitashen on Tue, 10 May 2011, 20:25:16
It is well known that red is brown without the bump (tactility), using the same spring.

And guess that sums everything up in one line.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: noodles256 on Tue, 10 May 2011, 20:27:33
Quote from: mmmty;344662
F#@! reds and browns. I just got my Realforce 103U (variable weight) today and it kicks @$$. Better than HHKB Pro. It feels like cloud of DD.

I agree, topres feel like clouds of ddd
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: nraymond on Tue, 10 May 2011, 21:45:31
Quote from: NeoDiNardo;344655
Ripster, who refuses to divulge the inspiration for his avatar...

He does?  A quick reverse-image search of the internet got me the answer in about 2 minutes: it is Ruby Kaye aka Geek-Girl, a comic book character created by Sam Johnson in 2008.  Website is here (http://www.atomicboogaloo.com/geekgirl/), interview with Sam Johnson here (http://www.denofgeek.com/comics/382658/interview_sam_johnson_creator_of_geekgirl.html).
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: neo on Tue, 10 May 2011, 22:07:28
Quote from: nraymond;344713
He does?  A quick reverse-image search of the internet got me the answer in about 2 minutes: it is Ruby Kaye aka Geek-Girl, a comic book character created by Sam Johnson in 2008.  Website is here (http://www.atomicboogaloo.com/geekgirl/), interview with Sam Johnson here (http://www.denofgeek.com/comics/382658/interview_sam_johnson_creator_of_geekgirl.html).

 
Yea, but why did he choose it for avatar?
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: mmmty on Tue, 10 May 2011, 22:20:33
Quote from: neo;344721
Yea, but why did he choose it for avatar?

Hello!!?? She's hot and she's a geek!!! That's one in a billion. I'm still looking for my perfect avatar.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: Zet on Tue, 10 May 2011, 22:30:08
Sorry to bring back the boob commentaries, but I thought as two separate parts of nice things for different tastes.

I guess reds are like the soft part of the boob so...

image a boob without the nipple...

now image a boob with a nice tender nipple... I guess that's what brown feels like.

Proceed to complete the comparison with other cherry mx switches.

Btw brkim, when you mention "1 and 2" you mean majestouch 1 and majestouch 2, or 1 as red/brown and 2 as brown/red?

^__^ can't wait to get my own mechanical keyboard!
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: mmmty on Tue, 10 May 2011, 23:01:35
Quote from: noodles256;344682
I agree, topres feel like clouds of ddd

Well, cloud of DDD is kind of too big for me but to each his own :)
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: NeoDiNardo on Tue, 10 May 2011, 23:53:35
To be fair, he just never mentioned it. Now I know lol.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 11 May 2011, 01:33:44
boobs with nipples are gross, i prefer flabs of skin
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: Zensuji on Wed, 11 May 2011, 02:24:20
@ the OP give the browns a little more time to break in. That slight scratchy feel that new browns have goes a lot smoother after a month of typing. If I compare the broken in keys on my brown with some basically unused keys on it the broken in keys feel smoother and far nicer to me.

Thanks for your comparison though.

I currently prefer browns over reds. I find them pretty much the same while gaming (FPS) but I prefer the feel of browns while typing.

I was lucky enough to get to try a red filco without buying one. Which made it easier to form an opinion as its easy to get caught up when you drop £156 (price of the red in the UK) on a keyboard
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: NeoDiNardo on Wed, 11 May 2011, 03:47:32
reds for gaming, blues for typing, browns if you can only get 1
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: NeoDiNardo on Wed, 11 May 2011, 03:49:19
just my best guess
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: NeoDiNardo on Wed, 11 May 2011, 03:57:05
may get the browns too though, they were my first :)
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: brkim1324 on Wed, 11 May 2011, 09:50:02
Quote
Btw brkim, when you mention "1 and 2" you mean majestouch 1 and majestouch 2, or 1 as red/brown and 2 as brown/red?
1 and 2 meaning Majestouch 1 and 2 :)
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: brkim1324 on Wed, 11 May 2011, 09:50:41
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The way you format your posts look like you're writing an epic poem lol.


Thank you for reading :)
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: NeoDiNardo on Wed, 11 May 2011, 17:01:07
So I just got my reds in, typing for 60 minutes and the result is they are just like browns for me, but ever so slightly different. Perhaps that's the way I type. I feel that the browns work wonders if your patient enough to type in a way that allows you to feel that bump, but with the faster harder way my bear claws type, the reds feel better, almost if that mini tactile bump just got in the way. Like it was harder to control the keypress when you had to over come that bump. If I force myself to slow down, the browns do seem to work better, in my memory at least, I never had them side by side. but notheless the reds feel smoother faster for me, ever so slightly. I think if you bottom out as much as I do, you are missing the point of the browns. But if you can somehow not bottom out the browns do feel tactile. In my case the reds help me more with not bottoming out as I am no longer trying to feel or overcome that bump, so I can just focus on the reds pure depth of press. Before it was overcome the bump, keep up the speed, but not so much that I miss the bump and bottom out. Reds=Simple: Just don't press down too far and keep up your speed. But of course I have no long term typing on either to really be like an expert, but this is the quick and dirty review for the everyman.

For my money, I am sticking to the reds for gaming and night typing, and the blues for when I want some serious clicky action like my old Matlias Tactile Pro ALPs board. It's hard to justify owning both the reds and the browns. I noticed a slight spring reverb sound, but its not bothersome, just different on the reds, or perhaps its the filco 1 vs 2 thing. The more important issue by far is the Filco 2 LEDs, at least on the reds, are not retina blinding anymore. That alone makes it the superior board by far over my old browns, which only illustrates just how small the difference is between the two.

So I think I will buy the blues, which should offer a real differnce to justify owning both, and leave the browns behind for now. Typing with my red filco right now on my iPad 2, via the Apple USB adapter in the Camera Kit. Filco on my iPad 2 yo! Makes a good little "Laptop", if I didn't have to hold up the screen. It would be fun to build a Flico Laptop case out of these two items, the best keyboard on a laptop ever!
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: mmmty on Wed, 11 May 2011, 17:19:50
Quote from: NeoDiNardo;345071
Like it was harder to control the keypress when you had to over come that bump.


That's exactly how I feel about blues. The bumps just keep getting in the way of typing. It's not like buckling springs where I can just pound it. Blues are kind of like browns but with bigger bumps. I still can't get used to typing on blues after more than a year. But I do like the clicky sounds.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: NeoDiNardo on Wed, 11 May 2011, 17:26:30
Quote from: mmmty;345080
That's exactly how I feel about blues. The bumps just keep getting in the way of typing. It's not like buckling springs where I can just pound it. Blues are kind of like browns but with bigger bumps. I still can't get used to typing on blues after more than a year. But I do like the clicky sounds.

If the blues even come close to the feel of these keys, I will like it:

http://www.matias.ca/tactilepro/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymgq3mBm4_Q
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: mmmty on Wed, 11 May 2011, 17:30:20
I want to try the Matias Tactile Pro. Are the keys really bumpy?
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: NeoDiNardo on Wed, 11 May 2011, 18:45:31
Quote from: mmmty;345084
I want to try the Matias Tactile Pro. Are the keys really bumpy?

They are up to version 3 I think, I believe I had version one,

http://www.matias.ca/tactilepro3/

But it was not a nice keyboard to own, switches were awesome, more clicky than what I imagine the blues are like, possible between blues and buckling spring, but it had hands down the worst casing ever that cracked and creaked. These are alps switches, at least the first version was, they bought the last ones like the ones they used up when the company went under that produced them. Meaning there are more than one alps switch too.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: mmmty on Wed, 11 May 2011, 22:04:55
New Limited Edition Matias Tactile Pro is coming in August. Maybe it will have better quality case. Would be interesting to see what it looks like Silver & Black. And it's Limited Edition hmmm...  With 30-day money back guarantee I think I will try it.

US Layout — Limited Edition Silver & Black
      Silver case with Black keys.
      Pre-order for delivery in August 2011.
      One production run only.

http://matias.ca/order/index.php
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: British on Thu, 12 May 2011, 06:32:18
Too bad that Matias keyboard is fugly.
Oh wait, it's originally for Apple, that explains...

Regarding red vs brown, I do bottom out and still I prefer the "feel" of the brown.
And when I say I bottom out, I mean I don't give a rat's ass about that tactile bump when I type.
But I like it more than linear... go figure.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: sealcouch on Thu, 12 May 2011, 10:13:28
Yeah. You would play Starcraft 2.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: brkim1324 on Fri, 13 May 2011, 20:44:32
I actually was going to refund my Brown to Amazon. So I put it back to original packaging for about 2,3 days. Then I realized how Brown just feels better in typing compared to Red. I love Red for gaming but just doesn't feel right when typing :(.. There's really no feedback when you typed or not for Red. Brown obviously has tactile feedback. So now I'm typing with Brown...
I am also thinking about buying another new blue for me.
Damn this is what happens when I come to GH too often!!
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: noodles256 on Fri, 13 May 2011, 20:45:52
get a topre
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: mmmty on Fri, 13 May 2011, 21:28:10
Quote from: noodles256;345959
get a topre

get a brown topre. Just wondering why you have picture of reds if you like topre so much?
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: Engine on Fri, 13 May 2011, 23:41:20
I'm assuming that someone, like me that doesn't type lightly, will not be able to tell any real difference between the red and brown?  I will always bottom out and except for maybe a difference in feel to some degree, I can't imagine any real difference that would justify the higher price of the reds over brown.  I do really like my browns by the way and am curious about reds and would buy one if it were the same price as browns but really...  Anyone else?
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: brkim1324 on Fri, 13 May 2011, 23:48:19
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I'm assuming that someone, like me that doesn't type lightly, will not be able to tell any real difference between the red and brown? I will always bottom out and except for maybe a difference in feel to some degree, I can't imagine any real difference that would justify the higher price of the reds over brown. I do really like my browns by the way and am curious about reds and would buy one if it were the same price as browns but really... Anyone else?

I am typing with Browns now, and Browns feel better when it comes to typing. To me at least.
Reds is more like cloud typing so it does feel lighter. There's no bump so it is better for tapping faster like for gaming.
They do feel different in some ways so if you can afford it, it is nice to keep one tactile and one linear.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: noodles256 on Sat, 14 May 2011, 01:26:49
Some reds cost the same as browns

for example, my kbc poker with reds when i receive it from MO
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: Human on Sat, 14 May 2011, 02:24:46
Quote from: noodles256;346033
Some reds cost the same as browns

for example, my kbc poker with reds when i receive it from MO

 
AFAIK, the retail price for Poker red is about 500RMB yet for other Poker is 400RMB?
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: noodles256 on Sat, 14 May 2011, 04:08:28
10 dollars more to mcuh?
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: Human on Sat, 14 May 2011, 09:19:51
Quote from: noodles256;346069
10 dollars more to mcuh?

Percentage wise, it is 25% more expensive than other switch...
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: advancedgamer on Sat, 14 May 2011, 17:02:04
i like the opening post, i was also there (lusting for reds) but now i'm so sure to go for browns.
i especially like the words used t odescribe it, gives it a very emotional sound to it
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: brkim1324 on Sat, 14 May 2011, 17:24:42
Quote
i like the opening post, i was also there (lusting for reds) but now i'm so sure to go for browns.
i especially like the words used t odescribe it, gives it a very emotional sound to it

Thanks for the compliment :)
Although I am not sure if that's for my post but still XD
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: advancedgamer on Sat, 14 May 2011, 17:28:11
Quote from: brkim1324;346311
Thanks for the compliment :)
Although I am not sure if that's for my post but still XD

of course it's for your post, since you wrote the opening post and opened the thread =P
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: noodles256 on Sat, 14 May 2011, 17:44:04
advanced gamer 0.o

i have been out gamed
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: SecrtAgentMan on Sat, 14 May 2011, 18:23:17
Quote from: ripster;346134
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I don't even
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: Zet on Sun, 15 May 2011, 00:04:54
damm you brkim and the cloud of boobs, you made me change my mind about getting brown saying brown feel like something is dirty inside with the tactile feedback and I loved your description on reds so I ended up, giving up my need of 105 key layout, and I just ordered the Majestouch2 Limited Edition with Red switches, full layout ♥_♥ can't wait for them to arrive!!! ZOMG so much exitement! finally!
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: Engine on Sun, 15 May 2011, 00:13:44
Quote from: noodles256;346033
Some reds cost the same as browns

for example, my kbc poker with reds when i receive it from MO


I am going with full sized boards and for me, that means the Filco Majestouch 2.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: MasterBlaster on Sun, 15 May 2011, 16:47:58
Quote from: Zet;346431
damm you brkim and the cloud of boobs, you made me change my mind about getting brown saying brown feel like something is dirty inside with the tactile feedback and I loved your description on reds so I ended up, giving up my need of 105 key layout, and I just ordered the Majestouch2 Limited Edition with Red switches, full layout ♥_♥ can't wait for them to arrive!!! ZOMG so much exitement! finally!

looking at your avatar i m guessing you play sc2, as soon as you get your Majestouch2 Limited Edition with Red switches plz post some impressions about how they feel while playing sc :)
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: brkim1324 on Sun, 15 May 2011, 17:15:54
Quote
damm you brkim and the cloud of boobs, you made me change my mind about getting brown saying brown feel like something is dirty inside with the tactile feedback and I loved your description on reds so I ended up, giving up my need of 105 key layout, and I just ordered the Majestouch2 Limited Edition with Red switches, full layout ♥_♥ can't wait for them to arrive!!! ZOMG so much exitement! finally!

XD I should work for Filco advertising their keyboard haha
Red is definitely good for SC2. There's no doubt :) Red really is good for gaming, but for typing, it's alright...
Of course it's better than rubber dome, but I guess I just prefer something tactile when typing words.
But other than that, Red is great choice.
Definitely recommend for gamers XD
P.S. This is my opinion so some ppl say Red is best for everything.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: noodles256 on Sun, 15 May 2011, 17:24:43
its all preferencee
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sun, 15 May 2011, 18:05:52
Quote from: digitalleftovers;344623
Lumpy Boobs, or, as I like to call them, "tactile."


Tactile titties???
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: daerid on Sun, 15 May 2011, 21:08:10
That's funny. As much as I enjoy typing on this Filco Brown, I'm probably gonna end up springing for the Majestouch 2 104 w/ Reds, since I need the tenkey for Pro Tools anyways. I totally understand what you mean about the keys feeling "dirty".
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: daerid on Sun, 15 May 2011, 21:17:10
Lol
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: Tony on Thu, 26 May 2011, 22:31:31
I am a brown user and I like the booby feel while typing. What a sexy feeling!
[video=youtube;Go8JM4biUtA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go8JM4biUtA[/video]
[video=youtube;6S83hN-Wk98]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S83hN-Wk98[/video]
[video=youtube;YIYSACsAdSA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIYSACsAdSA[/video]
[video=youtube;MsRYat6p_IE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsRYat6p_IE[/video]
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: mmmty on Thu, 26 May 2011, 22:42:46
My dream job. I wouldn't mind massaging boobs all day long :)

whoa! wait!! I just watched the last one to the end. Can't they show that on youtube?
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: Zet on Thu, 26 May 2011, 23:29:55
Quote from: daerid;346864
That's funny. As much as I enjoy typing on this Filco Brown, I'm probably gonna end up springing for the Majestouch 2 104 w/ Reds, since I need the tenkey for Pro Tools anyways. I totally understand what you mean about the keys feeling "dirty".

I can see on your sig, that you already got your Majestouch 2 with reds, any thoughts in comparison between browns and reds? for gaming? for typing? what about the sound? which one you like the sound more?
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: daerid on Thu, 26 May 2011, 23:39:53
I made that post before updating my sig, and yeah, I've had it since Monday. For typing, honestly I prefer the browns. And the sound I prefer the browns as well. But for gaming, there's no comparison: Reds all the way.

It's quite a different feel (at least to me) between browns and reds. For some reason, it feels to me like the browns are actually lighter. That's probably just because they have the tactile bump and my fingers know when the switch actuates, whereas with the reds I tend to bottom out more just to make sure that I hit the key. YMMV, but I would say that I like them both roughtly the same. For long periods of coding and typing though, I'd probably prefer the browns.

As far as sound goes, the browns I feel have a more solid "thunk" to them, which is what I love so much. The reds aren't quite as consistent, with the key making a sound only when you bottom out, except for the light hiss that the switch makes as it travels. I honestly prefer both of them much more than the blues. After using the browns and reds, my Das Keyboard w/ blues feels loose and "crunchy".

Hope that helps :)
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: SecrtAgentMan on Sun, 29 May 2011, 23:02:56
I agree with you on the Reds, typing on them currently and it feels like you're typing on...nothing.

But I love em, I can just barely touch the key and it'll register a keypress haha, it makes quick typing really nice.

To each his own though.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: daerid on Mon, 30 May 2011, 00:25:38
True that. After rocking the reds and browns for so long, coming back to the blues feels really weird.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: Zet on Mon, 30 May 2011, 07:26:51
Thanks for you input daerid, today, finally, after such a long wait, my keyboard arrives and I'm desperate to try it!
I really want to hear some more about blues since reds and browns are so similar, odds are that my next board will be blues.
Also, how does it feel to have a red switched spacebar? is it too light or something? I've been thinking about doing a mod to my keyboard and replace it with a black switch...
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: daerid on Mon, 30 May 2011, 13:06:47
It's not bad at all, imo. But then again I generally adapt my typing style to the switch I'm using after a couple hours, so if you're used to pounding on the space bar, it might be too light. Of course, I don't have anything to compare it to really, as I've never tried Blacks.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 30 May 2011, 13:33:54
I prefer reds.

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Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: MasterBlaster on Mon, 30 May 2011, 14:45:31
Quote from: Zet;353102
Thanks for you input daerid, today, finally, after such a long wait, my keyboard arrives and I'm desperate to try it!
I really want to hear some more about blues since reds and browns are so similar, odds are that my next board will be blues.
Also, how does it feel to have a red switched spacebar? is it too light or something? I've been thinking about doing a mod to my keyboard and replace it with a black switch...

gz on the reds , i got my das professional silent(brown) a week ago and i love it , my steelseries 6gv2 is back from warranty and i think i m gona buy a filco brown gen 2 next month, i want to try reds but i m afraid il ll hate them
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: daerid on Mon, 30 May 2011, 15:20:33
I don't think I could hate reds. But I'm not sure I'll like the blacks, since I prefer lighter switches in general. After this weekend though, I've concluded that I prefer Browns the best. Will probably get either a full size with browns, or a brown ninja next month.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: looserboy on Mon, 30 May 2011, 15:57:43
even on my switches its possible to write like on clouds.

in the end its up to oneself. you wont buy a keyboard for prestige, you should buy one wich feels and fits best to yourself.

i am writing a lot on my switches and get them only at 2mm,

first 2 weeks with my switches
after that
blacks
then
browns
and after browns
reds
or topre

if you wanna the  ultimate klicky keep ibm model m
less force
mx blues
or matias

thats what i learned and discovered for  me right now about them.

problem is.

sometimes you want to have some fun on mx blues or bucklingspring action, sometimes you re pissed of pressing something at all, so you prefer reds.

and if you want a good thing between klicky and cloudy you go for browns. in my eyes they provide a faster typing comfort because of this little bumb. not bottoming out lets you fly over the keyboard and reds wont avoid you sometimes to bottoming them out.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: ethics- on Mon, 30 May 2011, 16:43:33
I've only recently gotten my first mechanical keyboard (Filco Tenkeyless) with blues, and I'm already dying to see what other switches feel like.  People -really- seem to like their browns...
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: spolia optima on Mon, 30 May 2011, 19:37:26
This conversation is getting old. Browns and reds feel pretty much identical. It all comes down to personal preference. They're both better.
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: mmmty on Mon, 30 May 2011, 19:46:23
Brown>Red
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: spolia optima on Mon, 30 May 2011, 19:52:29
generally
brown > red
 
but
red w/ dampeners > brown w/dampeners
 
4/5 morbidly obese keyboard collectors agree!
Title: My thoughts on Brown and Red comparison
Post by: daerid on Mon, 30 May 2011, 20:03:20
@looserboy: are you talking about "MX switches" when you say "my-switches" ?