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Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: flaming_june on Mon, 16 May 2011, 14:18:36
I'm interested in getting up and coming Xarmor keyboard but I hear they're not making anymore Xarmor keyboards.  Instead Ione will just make other keyboards like blackwidow.  Is it true?  If so that would mean the only keyboard with macros avail is the BW?  I'm hoping another company fills that void.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: Mimic on Mon, 16 May 2011, 15:00:03
Well if u live in the EU u can buy the Qpad Mk 80, its the same board just rebranded.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: noodles256 on Mon, 16 May 2011, 15:46:33
from what i heard, they are dying hence their website is simple text.

I don't think they can even afford the bandwidth
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: flaming_june on Mon, 16 May 2011, 15:57:08
Quote from: ripster;347143
Lol.  One dude on OCN posts Xarmor is dead and now it's true.


The Leopold designer said Filco was "in trouble" and then they introduce a boatload of new products.

BTW I don't know WHO the Razer BlackWidow is made by because Razer Black Widow owners are GIRLY MEN!!!  They don't take pics of Enter key stabilizers or pop open their Razers to figure out who makes them.

Grumble, OCN Kids Get Off My Lawn.  Back in the day we laughed at warranties.
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Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: noodles256 on Mon, 16 May 2011, 15:58:00
i pity the fool
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 16 May 2011, 16:31:28
"iOne have discontinued the XArmor series due to the number of manufacturing problems with the soldering connections. Razers' BlackWidow's are now being manufactured by iOne".

LoL - I there any truth in that statement?

From what I saw and got flamed for telling, I keep saying from the get go that both the BWU and the XArmor had the same sorry mother.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: flaming_june on Mon, 16 May 2011, 20:15:51
Yarr... Hopefully some one would know for sure.  One resource is better than none.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 16 May 2011, 20:56:20
Quote from: ripster;347263
Razer owners don't want to open up their keyboard to confirm who makes it and void their warranty.  Must turtle when they play Starcraft.


If they're made like the XArmor, I would be scared too. Too many wires meshed with the screw threads. You can cut a wire while screwing/unscrewing the cover.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: kaiserreich on Tue, 17 May 2011, 00:19:51
Quote from: ripster;347263
Razer owners don't want to open up their keyboard to confirm who makes it and void their warranty.  Must turtle when they play Starcraft.

You could ask the guy who did the Whitewidow Mod. He certainly tore up his blackwidow
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: noodles256 on Tue, 17 May 2011, 01:37:59
they were seperated at birth. unknown twins
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: brkim1324 on Tue, 17 May 2011, 01:40:33
Quote
Razer owners don't want to open up their keyboard to confirm who makes it and void their warranty. Must turtle when they play Starcraft.

LOL good point Ripster XD
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: The Solutor on Tue, 17 May 2011, 09:58:11
I already said many times.

Thanks god is very likely that Xarmor is not made by the same OEM who made the razer keyboards.

Other than the keycaps and stabilizers there isn't a single shared piece in the two boards.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: The Solutor on Tue, 17 May 2011, 10:24:17
Quote from: ripster;347495
I think the rumor was started by Phaedrus at OCN.

He is their resident Xarmor fanboi.    It takes more than free review samples to make me a fanboi.

 
Not really an act of fanboysm being BW a greatly inferior product.

BTW I'm curious to see an opened mionix, although what the mionix's rep said here,  that keyboard still look too similar to Xarmor in more than one detail.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 17 May 2011, 10:58:56
Quote from: ripster;347372
Thanks!  I've been looking for pics.
Razer
Xarmor

Not seeing the similarities here...


Please don't call me captain obvious but one is from under, the other from the top...

I just stole one of Solutor's XArmor pic.
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4103/imag0117.jpg)

On the XArmor, the upper right, the controller is exposed.
While on the BWU it seams to be under the metal plate.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: The Solutor on Tue, 17 May 2011, 11:05:02
On xarmor the controller is on the underside on the preproduction models only.

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/225/2/5/u9bl_16_by_Phaedrus2401.jpg)
Was already discussed here with Phaedrus
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: The Solutor on Tue, 17 May 2011, 11:26:00
Quote from: ripster;347525
Why don't people open up their Xarmors and take pics and settle this once and for all?

Girlymen?

 
What do you need ?

You have two photos from two different xarmor boards just above.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: The Solutor on Tue, 17 May 2011, 11:38:35
Quote from: ripster;347530
You just said Phaedrus's pic was a preproduction.

 
Indeed.

Mine is not, and we have picture of both.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: Zet on Tue, 17 May 2011, 11:45:35
The seal photo made me die laughing.

On a side note, I doubt XArmors die, iOne will probably rebrand em, change logo and lunch YArmor or something.
Also, I doubt Razer has anything to do with iOne :S just my personal opinion
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: The Solutor on Tue, 17 May 2011, 12:02:47
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On a side note, I doubt XArmors die, iOne will probably rebrand em, change logo and lunch YArmor or something.


This is a retrofitted prevision

The keyboard is already available in 4 different branding Xarmor, tessoro, qpad and qtronix.

Who cares about the Xarmor brand itself
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: Corland on Tue, 17 May 2011, 12:06:03
The only thing I hate about my Xarmor is the stabilizers and keycaps, so I hope if the true OEM's of the X-armor boards are going to toss anything, they toss any similarity to the black widows. I want double-shot transparent keycaps with bulletproof stabilizers- then X-armor is the ultimate backlit gaming board.

They might also want to get a better customer relations team as well.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 17 May 2011, 12:19:34
Quote from: ripster;347553
I wonder how that Razer = Xarmor rumor got started.


Well - To begin with, both were made with the same thing in mind. Good looking flashy junk with "mechanical" hype tie to them to induce a false sense of durability and reliability.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: noodles256 on Tue, 17 May 2011, 12:21:19
im guessing you dont like razer.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: The Solutor on Tue, 17 May 2011, 12:46:48
Quote from: BucklingSpring;347562
Well - To begin with, both were made with the same thing in mind. Good looking flashy junk with "mechanical" hype tie to them to induce a false sense of durability and reliability.



Never heard about occam's razor ?
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: noodles256 on Tue, 17 May 2011, 12:57:49
i cant wait till i grow facial  hair, im only 12
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 17 May 2011, 13:14:09
You must be 12. All of your posts today have been spam!
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: flaming_june on Tue, 17 May 2011, 13:14:19
I like how this thread has nothing to do with the original post.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 17 May 2011, 14:06:08
Quote from: noodles256;347566
im guessing you dont like razer.


Right... But at least with Razer, you can go back to your retail store if you need to.

XArmor customer service is done by Chuck Norris, you'll get your RMA approved only if you accept to get kicked in the face.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: noodles256 on Tue, 17 May 2011, 19:12:33
Sometimes you can take it back to the store. only retail outlet that carries it in my area is Best buy and after we got upgraded to territory 1, our store is ruled by nazis
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: The Solutor on Tue, 17 May 2011, 19:17:01
Quote from: noodles256;347714
Sometimes you can take it back to the store. only retail outlet that carries it in my area is Best buy and after we got upgraded to territory 1, our store is ruled by nazis

 
BucklingSpring knows perfectly that returning a BW is almost an impossible move for many users, we discussed it just a copule of days ago.

His memory looks a bit volatile
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 17 May 2011, 19:21:37
Quote from: The Solutor;347715
BucklingSpring knows perfectly that returning a BW is almost an impossible move for many users, we discussed it just a copule of days ago.

His memory looks a bit volatile


Not volatile, I got trained to think the American way. Since I live in North America, I believe it's the center of the word and all humans are revolving around it. Although in Canada we are considered a bit off center, we can still replace BWU's at will. ;-)
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: The Solutor on Tue, 17 May 2011, 22:15:55
Quote from: BucklingSpring;347716
Not volatile, I got trained to think the American way. Since I live in North America, I believe it's the center of the word and all humans are revolving around it.

 
Remember the earth is notoriously flat and you are on side B. :canada:
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Tue, 17 May 2011, 23:07:38
Quote from: The Solutor;347812
Remember the earth is notoriously flat and you are on side B. :canada:


B is the side with all the toppings.
But thank you for your support (the crust)
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: RickyJ on Wed, 18 May 2011, 00:36:52
Quote from: BucklingSpring;347716
Not volatile, I got trained to think the American way. Since I live in North America, I believe it's the center of the word and all humans are revolving around it. Although in Canada we are considered a bit off center, we can still replace BWU's at will. ;-)

The city I live in (population of only 330k) has two Best-Buys, 10-15 minutes apart, and they both have BW's in stock.  Sure they're overpriced, but they're there.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Wed, 18 May 2011, 08:37:50
Quote from: RickyJ;347861
The city I live in (population of only 330k) has two Best-Buys, 10-15 minutes apart, and they both have BW's in stock.  Sure they're overpriced, but they're there.


Solutuor was referring to the rest of the world. Razer seams to have a good load of retailers in North America.
They are mostly mail order for every where else.
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: BucklingSpring on Wed, 18 May 2011, 08:54:10
Quote from: ripster;347945
RIP Xarmor.


LoL - Call me Noah, I'm keeping one alive in captivity. But I can't find the reproductive organs on this thing. I don't know if mine is a he or a she.

Rest In Pieces (lol) with the other failing species,
(http://www.livecrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/dodo-logo.png)
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: Xibal on Wed, 18 May 2011, 10:11:15
Quote from: ripster;347945
RIP Xarmor.

 
pshh, i doubt you mean that
Title: Xarmor Gone?
Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 18 May 2011, 12:36:07
Quote from: Xibal;347979
pshh, i doubt you mean that

It has been RIP-ing for a while