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Title: PLU ML-87 bang for the buck?
Post by: sinis on Wed, 18 May 2011, 05:58:10

Hi everyone,

I could not find anything about the PLU ML-87 (http://cgi.ebay.de/PLU-ML-87-Mechanical-Tenkeyless-CherryMX-Brown-keyboard-/110666039641?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item19c435c159), using the search function. The price is quite affordable.

Since its more affordable than a Filco, and the Noppoo is 1) only offered with black MX and 2) the main key-prints are of this low contrast, I thought it would quite be quite a good deal for the price.
I live in Germany and I'm still looking for a tenkeyless Keyboard. I am watching the Filco at thekeyboardco.uk, being my favourite, but the most expensive, too.

I was wondering if anyone of you made some experiences with this PLU ML-87 keyboard. What do you think?

EDIT: I saw this pseudo-6KRO being mentioned in the offer. I want 6KRO. No pseudo.

Greetings from sunny Germany
sinis

Title: PLU ML-87 bang for the buck?
Post by: domin8r on Wed, 18 May 2011, 06:42:19

Wondering the same thing actually.. also like the look of the PLU keyboards :)

Title: PLU ML-87 bang for the buck?
Post by: bakageta on Wed, 18 May 2011, 08:06:14

The PLU ML-87 has very good build quality, but it's definitely a 2-key rollover keyboard. If you don't NEED n-key rollover, it's a great keyboard. The ML-87's matrix is better optimized than most 2kro boards. The WASD cluster in particular is very well laid out, letting you hit WASD all at the same time, as well as most neighboring keys. The arrows aren't highly optimized, though, and it's not possible to press all 4 at once. Some combinations of 3 (left-up-right) work, and others (left-down-right, for example) don't.

Title: PLU ML-87 bang for the buck?
Post by: sinis on Wed, 18 May 2011, 08:10:34

Thanks!

Title: PLU ML-87 bang for the buck?
Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 18 May 2011, 12:36:50

wlcm 2 gh!, PLU ML-87 was my second board, if it wasn't cherry browns I would have loved it!

Title: PLU ML-87 bang for the buck?
Post by: sinis on Wed, 18 May 2011, 17:29:58

Thanks.

Thats just the question I have to do some research about. MX Browns or Blacks? Im trying to get a brown MX Cherry to test it for some days. Via ebay or by purchaseing one and send it back.
To be completely honest, I do only "gaming" on the keyboard.
Just have to wait for my desktop display to come back from RMA.
I thougt about having 6KRO for playing since I extensively use my keyboard around WASD.

I emailed keybo.de if it would be ok to test a G80 keyboard. And then send it back after a few days, in case it doesnt fit my likings. At least its mentioned to be ok in their general terms and conditions. But no answer from keybo.

Greetings from midnight aix la chapelle, germany
sinis

Title: PLU ML-87 bang for the buck?
Post by: HaveANiceDay on Wed, 18 May 2011, 17:34:59

It's the law. You can send anything bought online back after max 2 weeks. If they want you as a future customer is an entirely different story.
I bought a phone with a 2year contract online and sent it back after a week.

Long live Europe.

Title: PLU ML-87 bang for the buck?
Post by: BaconKnight on Wed, 18 May 2011, 18:27:00

MX blacks are great for FPS gaming and I did note you said you pretty much exclusively game, but I still don't know if I would be comfortable ONLY having an MX black keyboard. I don't have a Brown keyboard but I can kinda guess using comments from others and comparing em to my blues and I think browns tend to do better in all around use.

Title: PLU ML-87 bang for the buck?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 22 May 2011, 20:33:52

I had one; loved the keyboard but didn't like the blue switches.  Build quality IMHO much better than Ducky, Noppoo; approaches Filco.

Title: PLU ML-87 bang for the buck?
Post by: baller1308 on Sun, 22 May 2011, 21:33:19

If possible a local electronics retailer might have a Razer Blackwidow or Steelseries 6Gv2 Keyboard and you can try those.  The Razer will be cherry blue switches and the Steelseries 6Gv2 will be cherry black switches.  The Noppoo comes in other switches but it's somewhat difficult to find a seller/or overpriced.  Easiest way seems to be via a Taobao Agent att the moment.