Nifty. Looks pretty generic compared to the original.
Who cares if its boring. It feels good in the hand, and if it tracks well, I'm sold. My old MX500 was one of my all time favorite mice, so I'm fairly excited about this :-D
I mean that while the mx 700 was an awesome mouse for its time, looks incredible to see a 50 euro logitech mouse that lacks even the hyperwheel in 2011.
BTW I agree the form factor is very good
I think its Logitech realizing that with the mx518, they had a winner, as proven by the constant high demand and sales of the device.
I'm not saying this mouse is bad, it just lacks completely the innovations that Logitech has in its tray.
Good wireless, iperwheel, smartshift, sidewheel, 3 years battery life, optical buttons and so on.
It's a basic, good shaped mouse, nothing more that. And from this point of view is very overpriced.
Just compare it with an M705, great wireless, unifying receiver, 3 years battery life, a better (almost perfect) form factor, hyperwheel and so on and it sells for less than 40$...
If you want hyperwheel etc. Logitech has quite a few mice with those. Get one of those instead.
If you want hyperwheel etc. Logitech has quite a few mice with those. Get one of those instead. This mouse is for those who want a refined MX518.
And that makes this new G400 damn near perfect. Which makes this mouse, from my point of view, UNDER-priced.
Looks like the Japanese MX518, just with different sensor >.>See here...
Looks like the Japanese MX518, just with different sensor >.>
Would be nice if they did the same with the (G1/G3/MX300) and (MX310/Optical click!) bodies add two sidebuttons per side, new feet, better quality, better buttons etc.etc.
As for the sensor it's not ADNS-3090, it's actually the very same ADNS-3080 they doubled the max DPI, mouse prediction is the same level as the 518(cannot be toggled on/off), and allowed the sensor to change polling rate so it should be easier than before and reduced the cable weight by 25% and made it thinner. Still weighs the same about 106g so it's still pretty heavy to those used to lighter palm grip mice(unless they decided to remove excess weight).
I just wish they would remake the g9 with the mx518 sensor.
hopefully it isn't glossy, can't really tell from the pics
I just wish they would remake the g9 with the mx518 sensor.
matte is good.
gotta tip, register your logitech product and they give you 20% off code.
I just did and got one
Seriously. MX518 sensor isn't quite perfect but I'll take the correction over acceleration any day.No sensor is perfect but the sensor of the MX518 did have an amazing malfunction speed.
No sensor is perfect but the sensor of the MX518 did have an amazing malfunction speed.
I can't even rocket jump with a IME 3.0 :( :(
777 posts!TYVM for the notification, I am blind ! :sad:
Really? Noodles256 always reminds me of Ramen.
Ah, yes, Noodles the character played by my favourite actor, Robert De Niro in that film. My memory comes and goes, sometimes it just fades away.
Ramen, some Ramen, my MX518 for some Ramen, Ramen with sliced bananas.
I would have to contradict you as there are some sensors which have NO Prediction/Correction and these are considered to be perfect sensors. The IME 3.0 is one with a sensor (STMicroelectronics OS MLT 04) which is considered to be perfect, it does exactly what your hand movements "monkey sees monkey" do, which is the reason why many gamers use this IME 3.0
If it "can't even rocket jump", maybe it is NOT supposed to................?
There are two versions of the MX518, look to the base and if you see there are 5 small mouse skates (+ transparent base) then it is the old version. The new version have 3 larger mouse skates and no transparent base.
The MX518, Death Adder and some others.... are considered to be near perfect, it can be made perfect through firmware manipulation.
Well, so does the MX518.Sure you didnt use this mouse as bait for your last bear trap?
It's like shiny spacebars. 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.
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There is no weight customization on the g400 right? that is a bit of a dealbreaker for me
Wow. So these aren't shipping until July. Logitech is basically saying that if you pre-ordered, you gotta wait another 2-3 weeks, or you can go pick it up at Best Buy.
What ****wads. I specifically pre-ordered from Logitech so I wouldn't have to wait or go to a retail store to pick this up.
Wow. So these aren't shipping until July. Logitech is basically saying that if you pre-ordered, you gotta wait another 2-3 weeks, or you can go pick it up at Best Buy.
What ****wads. I specifically pre-ordered from Logitech so I wouldn't have to wait or go to a retail store to pick this up.
I'm not sure why you're raging. I pre-ordered mine and it just arrived today. I did not have to wait nor did I have to go to a retail store. I'm sure someone has the initiative and tools to properly review this mouse but I'll just toss a couple thoughts out there.
In terms of shape/form it's identical to the MX518. It's a tad lighter than the MX518 but I do like the coating on it as opposed to the glossy center body of it's predecessor. The two side buttons are more pronounced (raised away from the mouse body) and are a bit more rigid but I'm sure those will loosen up with time.
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because they stated the release date was the 19th. so you expect them to ship out the next business day, not ship out a week later
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The cables, the cables, please compare the cables and offer opinion/opinions........
Damnit... now I kinda wanna sell my MX518 to fund the G400, since I really can't stand the glossy finish on the 518 :(
Hey Polaris, looks like you've bought the G400 and glad to hear you liked it..I have some question to ask you of compered to the older MX518:
1) The prediction/angle snapping/mouse correction/drift control is still in the same amount?
2) The metrial that in the top surface of the mouse, is glossy just like the Mx518?
3) How's the performances, any diffrents?
4) Can you confirmed if the Cable of the G400 is more flexible than Mx518's cable?
5) The mouse actually feels less heavy than Mx518 or no diffrents?
6) May you please check how much the LoD on the surfaces QcK, 9HD and PureTrak Talent ? (how much cd's it tracks)
Thanks alot in advance.
1) yes the angle snapping is still there
2) the top material is different. it's not glossy, more chalky which is better for sweaty hands imo
3) performance feels exactly the same, just a higher range of dpi and actual 1k polling rate
4) the cable is more flexible mostly due to the fact that it is thinner
5) the weight feels the same, but i dont have my old mx518 anymore to compare
6) not sure how to answer this question, but i prolly wouldnt be able to anyways seeing as how i only own qck's
The G400 sounds perfect for me considering I love my MX518 bar its sweat-inducing glossy finish. Sadly it's not clear when it will appear in Europe, and I can get the MX518 for €25 so I just bought a second one of them instead.
Seeing as how a mouse is very personal, hopefully people wont think im a troll for this post, as that is a common perception when it comes to my opinion of the 518, and by extension, now the g400. I really hate it. In fact, for me its an unusable mouse. Let me highlight exactly the problem as follows
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That outer bezel truly breaks the device for me, my fingers would constantly come down in an attempt to click, and end up pressing down on the plastic instead, resulting in no click whatsoever. I dont really grip my mouse far forwards, my hands are small, yet this issue was CONSTANT. I really dont see how this isnt a more common problem, or maybe it was just somehow specific to the one i bought, but thats just wishful thinking. I know im gonna get beat on for saying i use the deathadder instead, but eh, its a forum. I find all the complaints people have with the deathadder (bad shape, too big, etc) are really just a function of an improper grip on the mouse. like i said, i have small hands, but with the proper grip the deathadder is truly baller. I tried changing the way i hold the mouse with the 518, i had no such luck. If someone wants to post pics on a proper way to hold it, im willing to try it out. (ill do the same with the deathadder if people start hating on it)
I love both these mice. I also have really huge hands, and have never had a clicking issue with any of the 518 shaped mice (MX500, MX518, G5, G500, etc). I'm not sure how you hold your mouse, but I've seen plenty of people use these mice (the logitech shape), and not a single one has ever rested their fingers so far forward as to miss the buttons.Yeah thats why im confused. I WANT to love this mouse, but I keep having this issue. I hear SO much praise for it all around the interweb, and it saddens me that I apparently dont know how to use it. :|
...I dont even understand why they make mice anymore with over 3000dpi, seems like all a marketing gimmick, since its never going to be used practically. setpoint settings 5 speed/ 0 accel, windows driver disabled, will give you as close to a 1:1 accuracy as you can get. So if you WERE to use anything over 2000 dpi, you would need to drop speed level, in which case the setpoint driver is deleting a good amount of the input, meaning your mouse is fighting your operating system's setpoint drivers to give you your desired speed and feel.
I am happy logitech left the dpi at 3000ish, at least there its not a total waste like 5700.
I think its Logitech realizing that with the mx518, they had a winner, as proven by the constant high demand and sales of the device. What other gaming mouse has seen a 6 year production run?
New Logitech G400 Gaming Mouse (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming/mice-keyboard-combos/devices/optical-gaming-mouse-g400)
Damnit, right when I spring for a new MX518... hopefully this proves to be a worth successor. And that rubberized grip, *yum*
You mean to say that you LIKE the rubber grip? The only thing that I don't like about my MX518 after 5+ years of use is that the rubber started to peel off. It got to the point where it was so ugly and nasty to hold that I sanded most of the rubber off. There's still a few spots of rubber I can't seem to take off though, which is pretty annoying.
That's strange. My mx518 started disconnecting recently. I got it a little more than 3 years ago, so it is out of warranty, but I called logitech anyway. Turns out they didn't even want the invoice or mouse back, and they're sending me the g500. Wonder why they aren't sending me this mouse. Seems like the closest match. Oh well, I've always wanted the g500 as my upgrade anyway =b.
A lot of companies should learn from Logitech, starting from Razer
Why just the other night I woke up in a cold sweat when I realized my MX518 couldn't turn off angle snapping.
Then I realized that any roller based trackball like the CST has HW angle snapping versus the Zirconium Dioxide white bearings on a Kensington/Logitech trackball.
Then I slept like a baby.
I'm interested in getting this mouse, but with one condition. It has to use the same micro-switches for all three mouse-buttons. That's the only reason I use the MX518 after searching for so long for a Logitech mouse where they hadn't screwed up the middle mouse click by using one of those tiny little tactile switches. Starting with the MX1000 (as far as I know) they've been using those cheap pieces of crap in most of their mice but they wear out very fast, especially troubling for someone who does a lot of 3D and CAD work like me. That button is absolutely vital and the MX518 is the only mouse I know that is durable enough to last a while. So, if anyone can confirm that the G400 has the same switches, or at least that it feels the same in use (mouse wheel button being springy with some give in it after being fully depressed) then that would be useful.
Yes, exactly. I got a razer deathadder with a computer a while back. The mouse came DOA. The mouse4 or mouse5 (can't remember which one) didn't click. They refused to do anything about it because I couldn't provide an invoice because it came bundled. I don't think I'll be buying from razer for a very long time.
I believe is not the switch that makes the difference, but the wheel assembly mechanism.
BTW I've never touched a g5, the only mouse with the stone age wheel I own is a V470 and the middle click works just fine.
To each their own. I can't stand the hyperscroll wheel personally.
Just traded another GH'er my MX518 for the G400. Honestly, except for the finish and higher DPI, it feels exactly the same. Same switches and everything. It's probably my new favorite mouse.
Just traded another GH'er my MX518 for the G400. Honestly, except for the finish and higher DPI, it feels exactly the same. Same switches and everything. It's probably my new favorite mouse.That's all I needed to hear. The MX518 is really light, so the thick cord it had would sometimes result in it pushing the mouse around as it tried to straighten itself. Actually had to get used to the lightness because at first i'd be clicking and it would get interpreted as a click and drag. The thinner cord on the new model should help. Now if only they'd make a wireless one, i'd be able to stop missing my MX1000.
What pad are you using it on?
Razer Goliathus - the new one with the anti-stitch weaving. I honestly don't understand why every single mouse pad out there hasn't adopted that yet. It's the most genius thing I've ever come across in mouse pads.
What size Goliathus?
There seems to be two different shapes of the extended version, one being perfectly rectangular and one having cutouts on the longer two sides. I bought two at once and got one of each. I'm thinking that maybe the change in shape co-incides with the change in weave, but I can't be sure as one is the speed and one is control, so they're a different surface anyway.
Oh well... upon further reading I’m beginning to get a clearer picture. It looks like I’m not the first to whine about this. Furthermore, the issue goes back to the “legendary” MX518…
I hope I’m not offending any fans of this particular mouse. Also, I don’t claim to have a very good understanding of the gaming world. But to me, a mouse that tracks accurately has to give on screen a true representation of the physical movement, just like my wacom stylus does. This mouse simply fails to do so!
Please forgive me for venting here. Otherwise, I really like the mouse, even without the accompanying software.
I'm talking about angle snapping. I don't have the software installed.
How can people call this mouse precise, when trying to move the cursor at a 45 degree angle, the pointer has basically a mind of its own; it stair-steps instead of following a straight trajectory. Moving the cursor horizontally or vertically works perfectly.