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Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: benis on Sun, 12 June 2011, 23:35:21
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mechanical-switch-keyboard,2955.html

Discuss.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: noodles256 on Sun, 12 June 2011, 23:40:42
tldr
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: redpill on Sun, 12 June 2011, 23:41:41
All that and they don't even have an opinion at the end?  What a waste of time.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: mmmty on Sun, 12 June 2011, 23:45:16
2 X-Armors and not even 1 Filco? What kind of a test was that? WTH??
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: dolphingarden on Sun, 12 June 2011, 23:51:04
Quote from: mmmty;359754
2 X-Armors and not even 1 Filco? What kind of a test was that? WTH??
You have to realise that websites such as Tom's Hardware get products from companies to review/write about, they don't actually go out and BUY them. Considering the language barrier and difficulty obtaining a Filco/Leopold/etc I'm not surprised that they couldn't procure a decent board to test.

But it's understandable.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: mmmty on Sun, 12 June 2011, 23:57:12
So it was a test of mechanical keyboards that people were willing to send to them. At least it made people more aware of mechanical keyboards. The best for my hands right now is a Topre which was not included in the test.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: docvic on Mon, 13 June 2011, 00:00:44
Clearly not an article aimed at the geekhack community. I doubt the majority of readers of Tom's want to know about Filcos and Topres, they just don't have the bells and whistles. Keyboard purists are the minority.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: reaper on Mon, 13 June 2011, 00:03:58
No Filco or Realforce?  Booo..    =P
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 13 June 2011, 01:07:45
Quote from: mmmty;359759
So it was a test of mechanical keyboards that people were willing to send to them. At least it made people more aware of mechanical keyboards. The best for my hands right now is a Topre which was not included in the test.

 
Topre is not a mechanical keyboard, why in the hell should be included ?
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 13 June 2011, 01:14:06
Quote from: ripster;359777
Why in the hell not?

 
It's a comparison between different microswitches board, so one can blame about the lack of alps board, not about the topre.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: noodles256 on Mon, 13 June 2011, 01:17:49
silly xarmor rep, mech keyboards aren't for you
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 13 June 2011, 01:20:35
Quote from: noodles256;359782
silly xarmor rep, mech keyboards aren't for you

 

Surely ALL QWERTY keyboards aren't for you, a T9 numpad should be more than enoug to accomplish your needs, that are limited to repeat a dozen of acronyms.

Right ?
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Wallach on Mon, 13 June 2011, 01:21:17
Well, they did say this:

Quote from: Tom's Hardware
Other Mechanical Switches

Of course the world is not made of Cherry switches, so we want to mention some others for the sake of completeness. However, since these models are not currently popular or commercially available in many developed countries, we will not go into the same degree of detail.

The quote is above a few pics of other switches (BS, Topre, Alps).
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: noodles256 on Mon, 13 June 2011, 01:23:05
t9? i ain't got no need 4 a tek9 my nigs

hehehee
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: chongyixiong on Mon, 13 June 2011, 01:51:57
Stopped reading Tom's Hardware ages ago ever since I found out that they love their sponsors. Meh.

Not a bad read but definitely flawed:-

For the tl;dr crowd,

Quote

Why no clear winner?

Quite simply because there are no losers

How poetic
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: noodles256 on Mon, 13 June 2011, 01:53:15
thats like 90% of hardware review sites.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Mon, 13 June 2011, 01:58:44
/me looks at page names


... Abomination. Not a mention of the model m or unicomps.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 13 June 2011, 01:58:59
Quote from: chongyixiong;359808
Stopped reading Tom's Hardware

 
Tom's hardware is the shadow of itself since it was sold to French, and even before.

But still has some strength, and this comparative is a proof, no other mainstream site has (yet) managed to talk about mech keyboards.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Ascaii on Mon, 13 June 2011, 02:14:15
Im simply amazed at the blatant crtl+c, crtl+v action going on in this article. If theyd at least give credit where credit is due...but thats just gradeschool level plagiarism. Toms, I am disappoint.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Arc'xer on Mon, 13 June 2011, 02:15:08
Quote from: ripster;359773
Lol - they took the animated Cherry MX GIF artwork from OCN which took it from Geekhack's Lethal Squirrel. (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?14802-Cherry-GIFs)


Actually if you do a Rclick + "View image info", all the pictures come from media.bestofmicro. At least Manyak thanked Squirrel even though OCN has that stupid rule which to me is like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: woody on Mon, 13 June 2011, 02:17:29
Who is Tom? The old dude from the cabin?
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 13 June 2011, 02:36:02
Quote from: Ascaii;359816
crtl+c, crtl+v action going on in this article.

 
At least they used a keyboard combination and not the mouse right button:happy:
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: zmurf on Mon, 13 June 2011, 04:22:25
Hmm.. funny... the author writes that MX Clears are "seldom seen" and "they offer little advantage over devices with cheaper rubber dome switches". In Europe clears is quite easy to get hold of. And my experience is that the clear are almost as good to write on as the blues. The blue is better to write on... but in offices where the sound level of the blues can easily disturb others the clears is, imo, the best choice.
And I can not agree with that they would be similar to rubber domes. I have never written on any rubber domes that have felt anything near the clears.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Lester on Mon, 13 June 2011, 04:34:41
Bad comparison is bad.

Razer Blackwidow material quality: 10, Razer Blackwidow easy to clean (COUGH GLOSSYNESSFEST COUGH): 9.
?!?!?!!
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: kaiserreich on Mon, 13 June 2011, 05:35:01
You better get that cough checked out. Want some Cough Syrup?
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Lester on Mon, 13 June 2011, 05:50:26
It's allright, I'm allergic to Razer keyboards.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: mmmty on Mon, 13 June 2011, 09:07:34
Quote from: The Solutor;359775
Topre is not a mechanical keyboard, why in the hell should be included ?

 
I sure do like my expensive rubber dome keyboards though. About to get a 86U from Mr. Noodles.  : )
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Chobopants on Mon, 13 June 2011, 09:44:45
Quote from: ripster;359777
Why in the hell not?

Aye, they might be TECHNICALLY rubber domes but they're super nice and have a unique feel that definitely puts them in the boutique category and should always be mentioned as an alternative to your G15s and QuietKeys.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 13 June 2011, 09:54:35
Quote from: ripster;359908
Worrying about Topres being a "Mechanical Switch" is typical The Solutor "missing the forest for the trees" logic.

 
I don't worry about nothing, if your scope is speaking about expensive keyboards topre should be included, if we are speaking about microswitches keyboards a switchless keyboard is obviously excluded.

I can understand that a comparative where 3 out 5 keyboards are Xarmor is your worst nightmare, but here on the earth most people are interested in having a good product for a reasonable price, not to spend the maximum they can to buy hot air.

Maybe on the planet where you are the n1 expert is not the same....
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Chobopants on Mon, 13 June 2011, 09:58:50
My favorite part of the article is the MX Blue self-conflicting data:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3136/5828486615_d6fcc1bc55.jpg)

The clearly just copy-pasted the tables on each page and changed a few of the fields, not all of them.

Switchover: Barely detectable
Clicking point: Undetectable

Lulzzzz.

I usually reference Tom's for video card advice when I'm in the market for a new one (every 3-4 years ha)...had no idea it had gotten this bad on the site. Time to go back to Anandtech (given that they're not this bad as well now).
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: phillip on Mon, 13 June 2011, 10:08:28
toms is not the place to go for reviews
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Chobopants on Mon, 13 June 2011, 10:13:23
Quote from: The Solutor;359915
I don't worry about nothing, if your scope is speaking about expensive keyboards topre should be included, if we are speaking about microswitches keyboards a switchless keyboard is obviously excluded.

I can understand that a comparative where 3 out 5 keyboards are Xarmor is your worst nightmare, but here on the earth most people are interested in having a good product for a reasonable price, not to spend the maximum they can to buy hot air.

Maybe on the planet where you are the n1 expert is not the same....

Maybe the title of articles should be on "Good" keyboards then and not using the obviously divisive "Mechanical" because people love being pedantic about it. I know quite a few people that tried tons of different Cherries and settled on Topres because they were right for them. They should definitely be included.

Realforces being a ripoff is entirely in the eye of the beholder. If your dream keyboard costs more than other people's dream keyboard, who are they to judge?
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: kaiserreich on Mon, 13 June 2011, 10:16:45
The sad thing is the rest of the world thinks TOM's did a great job in introducing them to the world of Mech Keyboards
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 13 June 2011, 10:23:16
Quote from: Chobopants;359928
Maybe the title of articles should be on "Good" keyboards then and not using the obviously divisive "Mechanical" because people love being pedantic about it. I know quite a few people that tried tons of different Cherries and settled on Topres because they were right for them. They should definitely be included.

Realforces being a ripoff is entirely in the eye of the beholder. If your dream keyboard costs more than other people's dream keyboard, who are they to judge?

 

So why not include also, say, the thinkpad's keyboards, the logitech illuminated, some keytronic and so on, as they are very good keyboards too ?

Looks like "good keyboards" is not enough to discriminate between the included and the excluded keyboars.

Worth or not (which is matter of opinions) the price looks the only common variable here, so they tested some keyboards in the 100-150$ range, unicomps are below, topres are above
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: mmmty on Mon, 13 June 2011, 10:26:52
Solutor=Igor  : )
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Chobopants on Mon, 13 June 2011, 11:10:58
Quote from: The Solutor;359935
So why not include also, say, the thinkpad's keyboards, the logitech illuminated, some keytronic and so on, as they are very good keyboards too ?

Looks like "good keyboards" is not enough to discriminate between the included and the excluded keyboars.

Worth or not (which is matter of opinions) the price looks the only common variable here, so they tested some keyboards in the 100-150$ range, unicomps are below, topres are above

Why not?

I think contrasting with some good scissors and stuff too would go a much longer way toward educating people instead of this very flawed copy-pasta that they were probably forced to write just because some vendors insisted on it.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: pitashen on Mon, 13 June 2011, 11:40:05
Dang it, I was gonna post the link. Guess I am up too late :P

Good too see mainstream hardware site featuring mech keyboard reviews.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 13 June 2011, 11:56:06
Quote from: ripster;359788
Lulz.

It's a legend alright.  Mainly for failing LEDs and surly customer support and a dead website.


Oh boy... There goes the little belief I had for Tom's reviews.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 13 June 2011, 12:26:41
All 5 got a 10 in reliability... As if the switch was doing it all alone.

Bad, bad assumption.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: woody on Mon, 13 June 2011, 13:13:53
Quote from: ripster;359994
Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=19096&d=1307984463)
This keyboard looks jizz-resistant up to a certain level.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: noodles256 on Mon, 13 June 2011, 13:15:42
big ass enterrrr
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 13 June 2011, 13:41:26
Quote from: Chobopants;359962
Why not?

I think contrasting with some good scissors and stuff too would go a much longer way toward educating people

 


Speaking about educating people, most of the PC users have never heard the terms rubber dome or scissor switch.

For most of the people keyboard are just classic, notebook styled, and apple like, so an article where all kind of keyboards are included should be more than welcome.

Quote
instead of this very flawed copy-pasta that they were probably forced to write just because some vendors insisted on it.


As I already said be sure mecs keyboards will become mainstream in the next two years, the large margins they can guarantee to vendors and makers are too tempting to not push them.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: DaemonRaccoon on Mon, 13 June 2011, 13:42:44
Quote from: The Solutor;360047
As I already said be sure mecca keyboards will become mainstream in the next two years, the large margins they can guarantee to vendors and makers are too tempting to not push them.

Mecca? I wouldn't buy an Islamic keyboard.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 13 June 2011, 13:43:59
Quote from: DaemonRaccoon;360051
Mecca? I wouldn't buy an Islamic keyboard.

 
Do you have a bot to check my messages in 4 nanoseconds ? Was already corrected.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 13 June 2011, 14:10:10
wow, i hadn't visited tom's since 06, i can't believe the number of "adblocks" the website has, 6 adblocks, I believe that is a record. For those that don't know or have adblock enabled, an adblock is the section that is dedicated to ad serving, which is fine, good companies usually limit this to 2 adblocks, usually in the header and to the right of the page (where the viewer generally does not pay attenion), but toms has the header and the whole entire right of a web page, creating a "7" in the ads it has.
as far as mech keyboards, yea topres aren't mechs, only buyers remorse of spending 200+ makes ppl believe that since price is so high, it has to be a mech. It is an advanced rubber dome, but don't call it a mech when there is nothing mechanical about it.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: hcry4 on Mon, 13 June 2011, 14:37:10
Well, technically, the spring stores mechanical energy.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 13 June 2011, 15:08:20
Exactly
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 13 June 2011, 15:17:54
Quote from: ripster;360131
Well we're now defining Mechanical Keyboards as "Any Keyboard That Pings" because Woody just discovered Realforces ping too.

 
So all my boards will be excluded....:Cry:
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: woody on Mon, 13 June 2011, 15:19:17
HHKB, but I am sure RF with it's metal plate will be even better.
Finally, a true scientific and reliable method for defining mechanical keyboards from the lesser species.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: The Solutor on Mon, 13 June 2011, 15:21:20
Quote from: ripster;360139
Well, I certainly wouldn't mind taking Xarmor off the list.  Pretty embarrassing to the product category.

 
Is more embarrassing to talk with the n1 keyboard  expert of the planet mongo.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: noodles256 on Mon, 13 June 2011, 15:25:37
i agree, xarmor is an embarassment to the clan
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 13 June 2011, 16:15:32
God bless bugmenot.com - allowing me to vociferate my wisdom without having to fill in forms since time immortal.

Disappointed not see more Topres on that list. As we all know and agree, Topres are the best keyboards, especially in ANSI layout.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: gilgam on Mon, 13 June 2011, 16:44:13
it's not as accurate as it should be but it's quite a good article for a noob, as i was months ago...
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: BucklingSpring on Mon, 13 June 2011, 17:46:08
Quote from: ripster;360139
Well, I certainly wouldn't mind taking Xarmor off the list.  Pretty embarrassing to the product category.


LMAO

XArmor is to keyboards what 20$ Knock Off Rolex' is to watches.

To XArmor's credit, they made pretty "realistic" replicas since they were able to fool both Solutor and Tom's Hardware experts.

I got fooled too... Not for long though.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: guilleguillaume on Mon, 13 June 2011, 18:14:52
I'm starting to get tired of this people on the internet stealing pics and gifs from Geekhack members and not even giving thanks.

What OCN did with Lethal Squirrels was stupid. Now In too many forums I have to correct everyone and link the original Thread here on Geekhack and say that the gifs are from him, same happens with a lot of your pics Ripster.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: cactux on Mon, 13 June 2011, 18:20:03
Quote from: ripster;360267
Yeah, if I hadn't been a stinker at OCN they wouldn't have given Lethal Squirrel attribution.

I'm quite good at being a stinker as Kalyrh points out.

Do they keep your watermarks on each picture?
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: BigWopHH on Mon, 13 June 2011, 18:25:15
Quote from: ripster;360204
Marco (a member here) has a much better one at HotHardware.  I used to just link to it before making the Geekhack Mechanical Keyboard Guide.

http://hothardware.com/cs/blogs/mrtg/archive/2009/03/08/mechanical-key-switch-keyboards-demystified.aspx

Excluding keyboards just because they are USB only in the review is stupid and the conclusion to Tom's Hardware article is no conclusion.

Plus it would have helped if Igor was a native English writer.

Thanks for the mention, Ripster.  I'm planning to put together an update to that piece that'll feature my Topre boards, and Cherry Clears and Reds, but funds are tight at the moment and I haven't been able to purchase the boards I need (going to get a Deck with Clears and a Filco with Reds).

If anyone has any input or would like to see something featured, let me know and I'll do the best I can to get it in there.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: BigWopHH on Mon, 13 June 2011, 18:56:53
Quote from: ripster;360276
Good to see your again!!

Only reason I stopped just linking to your guide is I wanted to piss off Lmnop at OCN!
(Attachment) 19110[/ATTACH]

HAHA! No sweat.  That piece has been online for over two years now--it's time I updated it anyway.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 13 June 2011, 21:35:52
didn't manyak quit ocn a long time ago?
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: flaming_june on Mon, 13 June 2011, 21:47:29
Quote from: ripster;360276
Good to see your again!!

Only reason I stopped just linking to your guide is I wanted to piss off Lmnop at OCN!
(Attachment) 19110[/ATTACH]

 
What is... events that nobody cared in 2008
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Mon, 13 June 2011, 22:38:38
I upvoted your comment there ripster. I was actually kind of surprised that the majority of the comments on this article were generally people who already knew these kinds of boards and were pointing out inaccuracies and mentioning boards that weren't mentioned. I was expecting it to be more along the lines of "my $200 logitech board with a LCD screen is clearly the best keyboard of all time" for the majority of posts.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: dreadful on Thu, 16 June 2011, 10:07:59
Quote from: ripster;359773
Lol - they took the animated Cherry MX GIF artwork from OCN which took it from Geekhack's Lethal Squirrel. (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?14802-Cherry-GIFs)

No attribution.

Plus I suspect they might have read a few Geekhack wikis.

Disappointed they only did a "Theoretical" USB vs PS/2 analysis.  No oscilloscopes.  No realworld testing of Windows 7 overhead.

At least they didn't fall for the Blue Cherry MX OCN Hysteresis Hysteria.

And no favorite?  Clearly trying to please all the advertisers.

Saw this post yesterday figured it couldn't hurt to pass the info on toms.  Sent them a message

"A person (ripster) on geekhack noticed you gave credit to the wrong person on your gifs on your 5 mechanical keyboard review. Thought I would send it your way so you could fix it. Overclocker.net did not make the mx gifs Geekhack's Lethal Squirrel did.
Here's the link if you want o check http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?14802-Cherry-GIFs"

Got this back today

"Thx for this interesting information, OCN has written, we could have "stolen" this content from OCN. Nice to know.
This article is a translation from German (original), I will send this information to our US guys to correct the credit.

The original is now correct ;)
http://www.tomshardware.de/Mechanische-Tastaturen-Theorie-Praxis-Guide,testberichte-240784-2.html
(see on bottom)

Sorry for my crappy English

Igor"

Figured I would share the info glad to see the right person get credit
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: guilleguillaume on Thu, 16 June 2011, 10:17:03
Fantastic! No more OCN false credits.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: dreadful on Thu, 16 June 2011, 10:29:08
His English is way better than my German
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: sinis on Thu, 16 June 2011, 10:53:56
Quote from: ripster;361727
Ich bin ein Berliner!

 
one of these right? =D
[ATTACH=CONFIG]19200[/ATTACH]
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: audioave10 on Thu, 16 June 2011, 11:30:57
I remember 7 years ago that "Toms" was a favorite site to read. "sigh"
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: BucklingSpring on Thu, 16 June 2011, 16:22:18
Quote from: audioave10;361748
I remember 7 years ago that "Toms" was a favorite site to read. "sigh"

Yep I recall those days :-( use to learn stuff about new technologies and objective reviews.

I notice the Legend in your sig...
Does the flat key layout bugs you?
I think it's great for gaming and as far as ergonomics, it's no issue for me.
Some here think this design is an insult to the modern era. I don't agree.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: The Solutor on Thu, 16 June 2011, 17:11:47
Quote from: BucklingSpring;361958

Does the flat key layout bugs you?

 
yes
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Bucky on Tue, 21 June 2011, 02:02:41
I saw the GIFs from lethal squirrel on Taobao today, seems you have created the world's most famous switch pics.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=9997298711
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: audioave10 on Tue, 21 June 2011, 02:25:10
The Deck's flatness doesn't bother me at all but I mostly game on it and I'm not really a typist. One thing I will say...superb quality and no ping to be heard at all.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Bucky on Tue, 21 June 2011, 11:42:47
keyboard enthusiasts all over China will be clamoring for the almighty American nickel.
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: Heff on Wed, 22 June 2011, 01:06:14
Quote from: audioave10;361748
I remember 7 years ago that "Toms" was a favorite site to read. "sigh"


just wallowed my way through an extended lurk and felt the need to post : THG was somewhere I used to go to for real guidance Back In The Day™ : its sad seeing them rehash other peoples work with attributation; even wikipedia tries to be better than that.

I figured the article was just a dressed up piece of fluff for BlackWidow promotion seeing as razer are trying really hard (well, with marketing, it'd be nice if they made a decent ****ing keyboard) but when I read "disadvantages : hard to read lettering" I... really? you want to talk about serious keyboard,s but dont review any, you steal other peoples hard work, and even OCNs ****ups, and then you taint your high-functioning-tech-people review by basically telling us we're all still looking down to type.

It makes me sad inside to read this crap.

Oh, and Hi. De-lurking after reading on and off for a couple of years. (which is odd, because I dont lurk anywhere else)
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: dj christian on Fri, 29 July 2011, 11:10:37
Quote from: ripster;359773
Lol - they took the animated Cherry MX GIF artwork from OCN which took it from Geekhack's Lethal Squirrel. (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?14802-Cherry-GIFs)

No attribution.

Plus I suspect they might have read a few Geekhack wikis.

Disappointed they only did a "Theoretical" USB vs PS/2 analysis.  No oscilloscopes.  No realworld testing of Windows 7 overhead.

At least they didn't fall for the Blue Cherry MX OCN Hysteresis Hysteria.

And no favorite?  Clearly trying to please all the advertisers.


What's wrong with Blue Cherrys?
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: TexasFlood on Fri, 29 July 2011, 11:26:58
Quote from: ripster;364720
The RipOmeter (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:6189) is the Chosen Yuan.

There you go, one with keys, although maybe nickels would be more appropriate.
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=22682)
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: mmmty on Fri, 29 July 2011, 13:06:06
Ripster went to the dark side...
Title: Tom's Hardware Rates 5 Mechanical Keyboards
Post by: dj christian on Thu, 10 November 2011, 22:48:17
Quote from: ripster;365115
Welcome to Geekhack.

Congrats on De-Lurking.
Show Image
(http://jonstok.es/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/lurker.jpg)


De-Lurking?

And who's Ripster and why has ge gone to the dark side?