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Title: intel's new transistor
Post by: ironman31 on Mon, 20 June 2011, 15:18:18

http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20059431&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-64

Biggest breakthrough in a long time. One of my professors was talking about how he did research on an alternate way of doing logic to deal with the soon to come limitations of the traditional transistor chip. But now intel has come up with a new idea where the same logic can still be used, pretty revolutionary.

Sorry if the link doesn't work, on my phone

Title: intel's new transistor
Post by: jnchin on Mon, 20 June 2011, 15:23:51

This is the reason for my waiting for Ivy Bridges, the next iteration after this generation.  I don't have sources on hand, but apparently this change alone will provide a 20-30% increase in performance

Title: intel's new transistor
Post by: jnchin on Mon, 20 June 2011, 15:24:50

Quote from: ripster;364201

Good for them.

Why is the stock stuck at a PE ratio of 11?

Duh, cause clearly the stock market is driven by rational and well researched people...

Title: intel's new transistor
Post by: jnchin on Mon, 20 June 2011, 15:31:55

Wait, you mean the price of stocks fluctuate?

Title: intel's new transistor
Post by: ironman31 on Mon, 20 June 2011, 15:32:28

Quote from: jnchin;364202

This is the reason for my waiting for Ivy Bridges, the next iteration after this generation.  I don't have sources on hand, but apparently this change alone will provide a 20-30% increase in performance

They mention the percentage in the article.

And does anyone know what ARM chips do to be so efficient? Is it a different tech all together?

Title: intel's new transistor
Post by: jnchin on Mon, 20 June 2011, 15:34:39

Arm is not based on x86 architecture like intel and AMD.  As far as I know about x86 based architecture and arm based architecture, the end result is that they both crunch bits but you have to code the low level to the architecture.  Please correct me if I'm wrong (for those E engineers)

Title: intel's new transistor
Post by: audioave10 on Mon, 20 June 2011, 22:45:02

I've read about the next chip from Intel...they will go to 3 dimensions instead of 2 by design. It indeed should add another 30%.
The trigate transistor...

(http://steliq.com/c/lm/a/a2/20934764_Intel-Tri-Gate-transistors.png)

Title: intel's new transistor
Post by: drsauced on Tue, 21 June 2011, 00:51:47

I do wonder how they're going to cool it.

Title: intel's new transistor
Post by: audioave10 on Tue, 21 June 2011, 02:32:49

It should be down to 22nm in size and I'd just stick a good Xigmatek cooler on it. (just like my other chips)

Title: intel's new transistor
Post by: kaiserreich on Tue, 21 June 2011, 05:20:34

http://www.beyond3d.com/content/articles/111
Here's a story about ARM if you are bored.

ARM is the reference to the instruction set. Apple/Qualcomm/Nvidia etc. buys the license from ARM and use their own input to design their own version
Much like how AMD has a license to use the x86 Architecture and design their own version.

Title: intel's new transistor
Post by: ~Blood~ on Tue, 21 June 2011, 05:33:43

yea, its great, but not really revolutionary. its still a transistor u know.

Title: intel's new transistor
Post by: jnchin on Tue, 21 June 2011, 07:31:07

Do you think if we make enough pinging/ringing noises we'll get ripster back into this thread?

Title: intel's new transistor
Post by: drsauced on Tue, 21 June 2011, 09:03:03

I hear the ALU has an oscillation in the accumulators.  Blast it with foam!