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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: spitfire6000 on Fri, 24 June 2011, 15:46:40

Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: spitfire6000 on Fri, 24 June 2011, 15:46:40: well, its just arrived much to my surprise. I got 2 day shipping, but amazon sent it to me overnight for some reason, for free! Hey I'm not complaining.

Anyways...this keyboard is leagues beyond the others I've had and im saying that after over 2 hours of extreme scrutiny.

The new features listed on this keyboard like the double plating are 100% real, they are not marketing gimmicks. It explains why the keys on my filco are so much more solid and firmly in position compared to the das.

The filco feels just soo much higher quality. Each keycap and keystroke are absolutely solid and firm. The keys do NOT wiggle if you shake them around.

I just wanted to say, that I am completely sorry for doubting Filco, and I see now why they charge the prices that they do for these boards.

Yes, they are made in the same exact factory as the das and some others...but its like comparing a bmw 3 series to a M6.

Also NOTE: The filco feels quite a bit heavier than the das, not sure if its because of the switches or the brand new back plate that it uses. And, as I mention in the 2nd video, the new extending legs on the filco ninja have a rubber section, so the board does not move around with the legs extended.

I will add more comments and observations as they come along, Questions comments?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFbK2z2aHBY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhEGNNYfcVY
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: drsauced on Fri, 24 June 2011, 16:52:45: Thanks for posting the videos. It seems that even the Ninja linear version is pretty different than the tactile version. The red LEDs and even the box appears different. In the video it's hard to tell, but does the Ninja box have outline of the keyboard on the front?

Also, your keys do ring, about the same as mine do.
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: fuzzybaffy on Fri, 24 June 2011, 17:55:52: Which do you find more comfortable to type on? And which do you find is faster when you type?
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: Viper2 on Fri, 24 June 2011, 18:32:31: I'm not impressed with Filco at all. I had a Filco Majestouch 2 (Cherry MX Brown) which I promptly returned.

Filco = overrated and overpriced
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: spitfire6000 on Fri, 24 June 2011, 20:11:39: Quote from: drsauced;367304
Thanks for posting the videos. It seems that even the Ninja linear version is pretty different than the tactile version. The red LEDs and even the box appears different. In the video it's hard to tell, but does the Ninja box have outline of the keyboard on the front?

Also, your keys do ring, about the same as mine do.

Yep, the box does have an outline of the keyboard.

What is the ring you are talking about? I tried so hard to find it, but this filco keyboard sounds very similar to the das keyboard, except quiter when bottoming out.
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: spitfire6000 on Fri, 24 June 2011, 20:31:13: Quote from: fuzzybaffy;367375
Which do you find more comfortable to type on? And which do you find is faster when you type?

After using the ninja for 2 hours, I realized that while on the das, I bottomed out on almost every single keystroke. The tactile bump on browns is impossible for me to feel when typing fast. Also, I noticed i was making a ton more mistakes on the brown switches than I am on the blacks. The whole point behind tactile bump in mechanical keyboards is so that you can type without bottoming out....but since I always bottom out on the das keyboard silent with brown switches, I think there is no point in me having a brown switch keyboard.

Only thing with the ninja is that I am going to have to get used to the added resistance.

The linear switch FEELS better to type on by far, and the funny thing is that this gaming keyboard is maybe 20 times quieter than the das "SILENT" keyboard.

In terms of speed, typeracer.com has me at around the same speed for both the das and the filco. My speed is not slower than when using the browns.
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: Viper2 on Sat, 25 June 2011, 02:16:19: Quote from: ripster;367416
Yes, well, that's partly because you think this is the best keyboard in the world.
Show Image
(http://www.cravingtech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Meka-G1-Review.jpg)

But I agree the Thermaltake is definitely not overrated around here.

Best keyboard in the world? That is debatable depending on what type of switch you prefer.

Best Cherry MX Black mechanical keyboard? Definitely!

And obviously you must believe in its quality since you are so interested in the Mionix Zibal 60 which is apparently the same as the Thermaltake Meka G1 but with backlighting.

Apparently even "noodles256" ended up getting a Meka G1 even after he made so much fun of it.
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: Wallach on Sat, 25 June 2011, 03:13:12: Apparently hanging around Geekhack will make your keyboards speak to you.
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: woody on Sat, 25 June 2011, 08:59:05: Quote from: Wallach;367587
Apparently hanging around Geekhack will make your keyboards speak to you.
No, the keyboards are just calling. Ring, ring, ring! Expecting forum members to answer the call soon.
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: woody on Sat, 25 June 2011, 09:10:41: Quote from: ripster;367688
Jeez, I get called a troll and I am the only sane person on this issue. People HATE being so wrong.
I really tried hearing something out of place in few posted videos. I failed.
So you do have my support on this.
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: woody on Sat, 25 June 2011, 09:18:42: The HHKB does cute oscillations if a key is released in a snap, too, even being mostly plastic without metal plate and springs (we can safely ignore the sensor ones). Can't beat physics.
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: Wallach on Sat, 25 June 2011, 09:29:20: Quote from: woody;367698
The HHKB does cute oscillations if a key is released in a snap, too, even being mostly plastic without metal plate and springs (we can safely ignore the sensor ones). Can't beat physics.

Yeah, and the way the switch is built you can kind of feel it if you leave your finger on the surface of the key after letting it snap up quickly.
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: spitfire6000 on Sun, 26 June 2011, 15:20:38: yea i dont know guys...ive been trying to find this pinging or ringing sound for days now....cant find it at all.

I tried slamming my fist into the keys and nothing...just a quiet soft click
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: keyboardlover on Sun, 26 June 2011, 15:34:13: That's because if your board doesn't have the issue, you're not going to find it (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?18739-Have-you-experienced-the-Filco-quot-ping-quot-noise&p=368499&viewfull=1#post368499).

I would stop what you're doing before you break the damn thing!
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: spitfire6000 on Sun, 26 June 2011, 16:06:05: Quote from: keyboardlover;368564
That's because if your board doesn't have the issue, you're not going to find it (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?18739-Have-you-experienced-the-Filco-quot-ping-quot-noise&p=368499&viewfull=1#post368499).

I would stop what you're doing before you break the damn thing!

haha oh no worries, this thing is built like a tank.

I am very happy with my filco ninja linear black edition. Its the best keyboard ive ever owned, better than the razer blackwidow ultimate, better than das keyboard professional s silent, and better than all of my rubber domes.

This thing is a gem, I am 100% satisfied.
Title: Das keyboard professional S silent vs Filco Ninja Majestouch-2 Linear VIDEO HERE!!!
Post by: spitfire6000 on Wed, 06 July 2011, 02:13:29: Well, seems I did the right thing buying this keyboard when I did...because its 100% sold out on amazon, except for the tenkeyless. The keyboard company uk is sold out of them in their uk location too.

I told you guys to get it while you still could, now you have to wait. Muahahaha =D