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geekhack Community => Input Devices => Topic started by: N8N on Fri, 01 July 2011, 18:20:34
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subject says all... most wireless seem to be aimed @ laptop users, but I like to use one on my desktop because a) I tend to have a messy desk and the cord is always catching on something and b) when I'm doing CAD work I don't want anything upsetting the feel of the mouse, at all - even the inertia of a light cord. I have fairly big hands, and my current favorite mouse - a Logitech something or other, I can't see a part number on it - is still a good 30-40% smaller than it could be for true comfort. Any ideas?
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The logitech G700 is pretty decent sized, I haven't used one, but I have seen them, if I were going wireless I would do that.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104377&cm_re=g700-_-26-104-377-_-Product (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104377&cm_re=g700-_-26-104-377-_-Product)
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*Looks down*
My G700 looks like a normal size?
I used to have a Sidewinder X8, and that was wireless, and HUGE.
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The Razer Mamaba. I don't think anybody would accuse it of being a "small" mouse.
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i also would have said the mamba,
or the cyborg R.A.T.9
also the logitech mx revolution was quite big but i am not sure if its still available?
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MX revolution, Performance MX, G700 are all fatty mice, MX1100 is even fatter.
MS has also some big wireless mouse (usually hideous because the free spinning wheel)
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also the logitech mx revolution was quite big but i am not sure if its still available?
Is still in the BT version (bundled with a keyboard) I bought mine, brand new, just a month ago from ebay w/o BT receiver and Keyboard.
Is still the best mouse ever, but is too big for my taste
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I'd advise against the Mamba, and the R.A.T 9, as they use the Philips Twin Eye sensor, which I've had jitter and lift off issues with in the past.The Avago 9500 in the G700 has a little bit of acceleration on some pads, but I don't think I can feel it. The other main reason I bought the G700 is that it uses AA batteries, as opposed to a proprietary battery, so when it dies, it's easy to replace.
The Sidewinder X8 wasn't a bad mouse (until mine got trodden on in a drunken incident), it didn't track to well on rougher cloth pads, and had some evil angle snapping, but aside from that, I really loved the size of the big bugger. It's probably the widest mouse I've used to date.
If you've got any questions, shoot me a PM.
EDIT: I realise how terribly worded that was, but I'm on my bipolar medication and can't concentrate long enough to fix it.
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I'd advise against the Mamba, and the R.A.T 9, as they use the Philips Twin Eye sensor, which I've had jitter and lift off issues with in the past.
I consider the RAT 9 a mouse tought by a genius, built by an idiot, it does exactly the opposite of what is supposed to be, it's uncomfortable in any configuration.
But the sensor is just perfect, I haven't seen any of the supposed defects mentioned
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Might be because I use a low DPI and I tend to lift off alot?
If you Google about a bit, there seems to be other having problems as well.
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OP, as you can probably tell, there are plenty of wireless mice that are full sized. If you like Logitech mice, then just look on the Logitech website for a complete selection of their current wireless mice.
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If you Google about a bit, there seems to be other having problems as well.
Was not intended to mentioned in your post, but in general. I read a lot before buying this mouse and I was aware of this but i can't reproduce the problems.
I use the mouse at low dpi and what i can see is just a better precision comparing it with more standard mice (I think an image is better than 1000 words)
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/7877/mice.png)
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Sorry, drug addled.
Let me rephrase. The PTE sensore was accurate as hell, I just had terrible jitter on my Razer Goliathus Speed, and when lifting it off, the Z axis issue annoyed the hell out of me.
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Ok, but I can't see even the Z axis problem.
Lifting the mice (a thing that never happen with my logitechs but is pretty common with RAT because the odd distribution of the skates) the cursor moves itself slightly more than with other mice, but not in a way I can consider a defect, likely the problem was more pronounced with earlier mice/firmwares/drivers...
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sidewinder x8 if there is still stock of them around
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BIG thumbs up to the Logitech Performance MX (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Performance-Mouse-Mac/dp/B002HWRJBM). First wireless mouse I've stuck with, and I've got a pretty bad mouse addiction.
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+1 for the Performance MX. Coming from an MX1100 I thought nothing could compare but the Performance MX was a more than acceptable replacement.
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A workmate of mine had issues with a Performance MX. Fantastic mouse, but it had issues tracking really small movements, which made it a bit of a pain in photoshop and the like. Aside from that, it was a great mouse, with WAAAY better battery life than my G700 and more buttons than you can poke a stick at. The on the fly charging cable is also the best thing since sliced bread.
I think logitech fixed the small movement issue with a later firmware update.
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I consider the RAT 9 a mouse tought by a genius, built by an idiot, it does exactly the opposite of what is supposed to be, it's uncomfortable in any configuration.
But the sensor is just perfect, I haven't seen any of the supposed defects mentioned
Oddly enough, I find the Rat 7 (the wired version, but same shape) to be the mouse comfortable mouse I've ever used.
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Oddly enough, I find the Rat 7 (the wired version, but same shape) to be the mouse comfortable mouse I've ever used.
Everyone has different hands and different likings, but even taking this in account I cant understand how can be confortable when two of its strong points, the sidewheel and the precision aim button are so distant from echother.
If one mod the shape to have the aim button handy, the sidelwheel becomes way too recessed. If instead the wheel is in the right place the aim button becomes unreachable.
The shape is also odd, with the mouse shortened, it is still too big to use it with the wrist supported directly by the mouse mat.
If extended, to support the whole hand, the mouse becomes unbalanced because there aren't any feet to support the mouse's back, the wheel is also not tilting and the additional weights are pointless as the rat 9 is already one of the heaviest mouse on the market w/o any weights installed.
When I use it and then I switch back to that M705 marvel I feel way better, and even the MX revolution, which is oversized for my hands, is still way more comfortable.
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I do have rather large hands. But to be honest, I never really use the precision aim button or the thumb wheel, so those are a non-issue for me.
It did take a while to get used to it, but after adapting, most other mice feel cramped and make my hand feel "collapsed", if that makes any sense.
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Well... I posted this thread a while ago and ran away for a while, mostly because I was overwhelmed by choices in keyboards, and getting a decent keyboard was my first priority. But now I am moving onto the mouse phase of putting together an acceptably ergonomic desktop. My apologies, but it seems that there's even more choices out there for mice than there are for keyboards, and I was concentrating on the keyboard first as that was the absolute worst part of my desktop until I found this august forum.
I've seen some suggestions in this thread, but unless I've missed something, they all seem to be gaming-oriented mice w/ lots of extra buttons and features... really I'd be happy with two buttons and a scroll wheel. And if the scroll wheel clicked side to side for sideways scrolling like it does on the Logitech one that I'm using now that'd be even spiffier. And that's all I really want, other than that it be cordless and fit my hands. (I'd tell you what it is, but I'll be damned if I can find a model number on it anywhere.) Also, inexpensive would be good, 'cause I just dropped almost $130 on a keyboard and who knows how much (I don't even want to keep track) on cheap eBay boards to try different switches, harvest doubleshots, etc.
Sadly, like keyboards, my local brick and mortar stores seem to be pretty useless. Unless there's that hidden store somewhere that caters to gamers and finicky users? If anyone knows of such a place in the NoVA area, I'd love a recommend.
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A workmate of mine had issues with a Performance MX. Fantastic mouse, but it had issues tracking really small movements, which made it a bit of a pain in photoshop and the like. Aside from that, it was a great mouse, with WAAAY better battery life than my G700 and more buttons than you can poke a stick at. The on the fly charging cable is also the best thing since sliced bread.
I think logitech fixed the small movement issue with a later firmware update.
Small tablet's are dirt cheap from Wacom and works wonders in Photoshop if you use it a lot, some can be found on eBay, here (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&rt=nc&_nkw=wacom%20tablet&_sc=1&_sop=16&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1513&_pgn=3).
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Another recommendation for Logitech Performance MX as long as your hands aren't too big, as in really big (as in with 8 inches from the base of the palm to the tip of the middle finger you're gonna have problems).
Also, some manufacturers use the same Chinese OEMs that bigger names in the business do, but the price is lower. I'd go to the shop and try in my own hand, just skipping those brands that you know to cause problems consistently.
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Another recommendation for Logitech Performance MX as long as your hands aren't too big, as in really big (as in with 8 inches from the base of the palm to the tip of the middle finger you're gonna have problems).
Also, some manufacturers use the same Chinese OEMs that bigger names in the business do, but the price is lower. I'd go to the shop and try in my own hand, just skipping those brands that you know to cause problems consistently. There may be no need to pay for that Logitech baby.
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MS Natural Wireless Laser Mouse 6000. It's a beast. It's like mousing with a bowling ball. Very nice.
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Mousing a bowling ball?
(http://i.cmpnet.com/crn/slideshows/2008/mouse_anniversary/1_mousebowlingball.jpg)
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MS Natural Wireless Laser Mouse 6000. It's a beast. It's like mousing with a bowling ball. Very nice.
Ms mice are generally good mice ruined by the idiotic free spin wheel, at lest the most expensive ones, equipped with the four way wheel.