God I can't stand non-standard key sizes.
So far I have not read an ETA and availability in NA.
ewww backlighting on only a set area? thats fugly imo.
I don't get backlighting in keyboards to begin with...it seems like a gimmick or shiny toy for younger people...because if I never had a regular keyboard while playing at night in the dark, I would've never learned to touch type so well. I don't even look for the bumps on F and J, I just know where the keys are. Years of mmorpgs at night will do that to you.
Also...aren't most people who get mech boards already superior typists? Wats the reason for backlighting? I couldn't game for more than an hour with the blackwidow ultimate without turning off the backlight because it was so distracting.
This keyboard looks nice...minus the backlighting...but if its a rebranded ducky, it wont have the superior key feel of filcos and leopolds. Many say that the filcos/leos are softer and more high quality feeling than the other brands.
I also don't like how thermalake is starting to do what Razer is doing, with all the flashy BS. Think about it...if they're spending ALL that money on advertising and distribution and making a pretty fancy box...how much do you think they skimped out of the actual parts and labor to BUILD the keyboards?
Be sure it will happen, quickly.
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spitfire what's your problem, you are envisioning the lack of the exclusivity mark on mech keyboards? Be sure it will happen, quickly.
I cant agree in single point you wrote.
Very quickly...
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My, you are touchy about backlighting, aren't you
Just hate for pointless comments.
you so smart. advise me my first mech board plox
whoa take it easy bro
I'm not arguing about technicals here I m arguing about the snobbish sound of your words, in your previous messages.
Who cares if you consider the backlit an useless feature ? Who carer if you consider them toys for younger people?
In 1960 a Ferrari with the robotized gears was an insult, nowadays even F1 cars have them, people loves powerfull and well built cars, but loves also comfortable cars.
Like it or not, backlight should be a default feature for any home use aimed keyboard and what is incredible is that the relatively big names like Filco are still sleeping on the laurels and are missing the tiny revolution that's happening, now.
Atm, no matter what most of GH users are thinking, there isn't a single point that justify buying a filco over an half priced similar board, They are the same board, they differs just because some minor (often pointless) details.
Instead so blamed blackwidow offers, media keys, backlight, usb hub and media keys (for less money), you should realize that this matters for a wide range of users, you should realize that this is called evolution.
By your own argument: Who cares what you think? Who cares if you consider backlighting essential?
This is personal opinion, which anybody is free to disagree with.
Yes, it does matter for a wide range of users. Just not a wide range of users here on GeekHack.
You should care not about me, but about a couple of billions of PC users outhere.
Indeed the point was not the disagreement with me but the respect for other users a lot of them.
Thats the point you feel an elite and you are worrying about losing this position, that's the truth.
Btw, if you don't like "proletarian" opinions you should filter the users and made GH a private club, if not, you must accept the opinions different than yours, and be sure they will increase day by day.
Well I like backlit keyboards, but don't like the BWU because of its' lack of NKRO, what does that make me?
The difference is, he didn't show any disrespect.
I don't get backlighting in keyboards to begin with...it seems like a gimmick or shiny toy for younger people...
Well I like backlit keyboards, but don't like the BWU because of its' lack of NKRO, what does that make me?
I'm pretty indifferent when it comes to backlit keyboards but I don't understand the point of only lighting a few of the keys. Aesthetically I think its juvenile and quite frankly, ugly.
Truly ?
This sounds respectful to you ?
It's a bit different than telling "i don't need it"
Here ther's a zillion of users with the keycaps swapped on the wasd cluster, and no one has never said nothing about this pratice.Personal aesthetic preference doesn't have to be logical ;)
So if the same is done with lights where is the problem ? (note that for the few games I play I use the arrows and not the wasd cluster, so personally I couldn't care less)
Honestly, it doesn't. I understand the semantic differences between the two, but getting offended at somebody calling it a "shiny toy for younger people" just seems overly sensitive. I think he was just trying to find a way to express accurately how he felt about it.
Just what the doctor ordered for those teenage gamers that are dying for a mechanical but can't afford a filco!
Personally think NKRO is totally overrated. But if it's important to you, then it just makes you particular about what you want.
Nothing wrong with that.
Here ther's a zillion of users with the keycaps swapped on the wasd cluster, and no one has never said nothing about this pratice.
So if the same is done with lights where is the problem ? (note that for the few games I play I use the arrows and not the wasd cluster, so personally I couldn't care less)
Maybe I'm oversensitive, maybe I overestimated what he is saying, but GH is full of snobbish posts whenever a cheaper or more featured board is presented.
Just a random one that I remember... (from the rapoo thread)
This is also respectful ?
There's much more productive uses of our time here.
Solution you know whats funny?
As a matter of fact, I agree with 99% of everything you said so far. I guess I just said that comment about backlighting without thinking twice, which is always how I make forum threads, maybe I should try to be more aware of how my text is sounding. I wasnt trying to offend anyone or be condescending, just was typing strait from the brain...as i always have been for the short 1-2 months that ive been here. I am far from a snob, I guess I just have very distinct opinions on things and I don't see a need to filter them.
I DO think that filco and all the oldies are getting left behind in the global trade, but as long as the big companies keep having horrible quality control and constant defects, filco/leo will have a loyal following.
daerid said that backlighting if done the way we are seeing here, looks very juvenile, and hes 100% right.
The problem is razer/steelseries/thermalake dont care about a good reputation or maintaining quality standards, they wana make a quick buck nowadays. Remember when razer first came out? They were actually really good "FOR GAMERS BY GAMERS" remember that motto?...and look at them now...they sell 35 dollar mouse pads with "certificates of authenticity" and a box/packaging that looks like it was made for kids age 2-5. All their products come with super awesome stickers and very well made instruction manuals that are beautifully designed on cardboard cutouts. Thing is...what happened to the actual product? Blackwidow ultimate costs 120 bucks, but how much of that is spent on all that extra garbage that noone really cares about?
Before I started looking into mechanical keyboards, I had a Logitech Illuminated Keyboard. It was scissor swtich with a very mature professional lightup color. This type of back-lighting is great, you use it when you wana feel like youre in a space ship, and off when u need to focus on the game.
Did you know that the majority of mechanical keyboards from all these companies are all somehow defective or tainted in some way or form? I am right now typing on my 5th mechanical keyboard in the past 2 1/2 months. The quality control on these things is just horrible...razer especially. Das was actually very good but the piano finish scratches up before you even get it in the mail. Even this 160 dollar filco i have now, has very slight scratches on the sides where the factory guy put it into the box. I have to return this one for a replacement or maybe ill get a different one altogether because there is a broken F7 switch.
That is why I disapprove, because dedicated honest companies like filco/leopold/ducky etc. are not getting the recognition they deserve, and having people say why the heck is filco 170 bucks? thats totally overrated! ripoff!
Didn't read that whole post, but I'm going to respectfully disagree with you about Filcos. "Collectibles" implies that somehow Filco will go out of business. I don't see that happening. They're kind of like Apple. Simplistic yet elegant design that is of exceedingly high quality.
I like how this thread has nothing to do with this keyboard specifically.
Can't you guys stay on topic?
Can't you guys stay on topic?