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Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: iMav on Wed, 20 July 2011, 00:50:52
Here is the latest:

Quote from: Truly Ergonomic
This is an update of our manufacturing phase.

Manufacturing phase
We finalized the required tooling and have received initial samples. We are currently fixing a couple of issues and will receive newer samples in a few days to verify all parts are according to our design specifications. We will manufacture your Truly Ergonomic Keyboard as soon as these issues are resolved.

Blog
We have created new posts in our Blog since our previous newsletter.

One in regard to the required tooling, where you can review an image of diverse initial samples.
http://www.trulyergonomic.com/blog.html#Tooling

Another in regard to the technical side of the Truly Ergonomic Keyboard; more useful for those who want to find out more about the technical and electronic side of the Truly Ergonomic Keyboard.
http://www.trulyergonomic.com/blog.html#DIP

We are a young Canadian company with more than sufficient capital to manufacture all currently pre-ordered TrulyErgonomic Keyboards, but it is imperative to us that we deliver quality above all else, particularly in our first production runs.

We thank you very much for your patience and support during our pre-order manufacturing phase.

Regards,

The Truly Ergonomic team
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: REVENGE on Wed, 20 July 2011, 01:16:30
Quote from: iMav;383852
Here is the latest:

I like how one of the board samples has Cherry Reds.
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Titmouse on Wed, 20 July 2011, 07:45:16
They also updated the delivery date estimate in the FAQ section:


Quote from: Truly Ergonomic
Pre-order delivery will follow as our primary goal is to bring our line of products to market as soon as possible. We are currently estimating delivery during August 2011.
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: cactux on Sun, 24 July 2011, 05:36:04
Is anyone placed an order already? Unfortunately they do not have a 10key less version
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: JBert on Sun, 24 July 2011, 15:55:52
Are you even talking about the Truly ergonomic keyboard (http://www.trulyergonomic.com/)? It has no numpad...
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: sordna on Tue, 26 July 2011, 16:25:17
It has an embedded numpad (check out that led on the numlock key):

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And I see cherry reds and blacks !?!!?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]22445[/ATTACH]

By the way, the best model seems the "109" key one. It offers 88 physical keys without impacting the space bar like other international keyboards do. Must be better than the "104" or "105" models (only 84 physical keys) if you want to setup widows keys, menu keys, etc.
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: luie on Thu, 04 August 2011, 00:02:33
Looks nice.
I would get one after a review from this forum (if it's without major flaws)
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Titmouse on Thu, 04 August 2011, 07:08:07
The latest delivery date estimate is *late* August according to their website.
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 04 August 2011, 08:15:25
Candidate for 2011 "vaporware of the year" award.
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: cypherslock on Thu, 04 August 2011, 17:19:21
Good Lord this thing STILL hasn't shipped?! Bugger it, I'll go with a kinesis...sheesh. I love supporting my countrymen but my goddddd...
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: iMav on Thu, 04 August 2011, 18:16:36
Quote from: keyboardlover;392807
Candidate for 2011 "vaporware of the year" award.
Didn't they already win this for 2010?

Quote from: ripster;392830
Can't say that until ALL the Group Key Buy Three keys ship.
I have no pending orders left to ship...
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 04 August 2011, 18:32:13
Did my 1 missing Moogle Kit get sent out? =)
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Gerk on Tue, 23 August 2011, 23:39:52
Quote from: iMav;393167
Didn't they already win this for 2010?

I was going to say the same thing ... I pre-ordered with blues and am waiting (im)patiently.
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: sordna on Tue, 23 August 2011, 23:53:36
Welcome to geekhack!
Hope they come through, did they send any updates recently? Also, for folks that preordered, have they provided a mailing address and phone number, or are they still in virtual-company mode?
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Gerk on Wed, 24 August 2011, 00:01:51
Quote from: sordna;404251
Welcome to geekhack!
Hope they come through, did they send any updates recently? Also, for folks that preordered, have they provided a mailing address and phone number, or are they still in virtual-company mode?

Thanks :)

They've done nothing for me so far but take my money and send emails with ever falling back shipping dates, no address or contact info outside email on their site.  I did see somewhere that someone did some research on that at one point but don't have a url handy ...
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: sordna on Wed, 24 August 2011, 12:03:56
OMG look at TE's contact page, (http://www.trulyergonomic.com/contact.html) it says:

We liked to hear from you.

Guess they don't like it anymore, lol
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Gerk on Wed, 24 August 2011, 12:47:56
Quote from: sordna;404404
OMG look at TE's contact page, (http://www.trulyergonomic.com/contact.html) it says:

We liked to hear from you.

Guess they don't like it anymore, lol


Judging from their auto-reply and the many days it can take them to get around to answering emails i think you may be right ;)
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Gerk on Thu, 25 August 2011, 14:52:57
Quote from: Titmouse;383941
They also updated the delivery date estimate in the FAQ section:


The FAQ no longer shows any estimated date .. it now says:

Quote
When are pre-orders expected to be delivered?

Please consider that we are only accepting pre-orders until August 31st.


It seems like they are actually going to the manufacturing phase ... who knows, maybe a couple more years I might get the one I pre-ordered LOL
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Deofol on Thu, 25 August 2011, 15:04:14
Quote
We estimate we will start accepting standard orders October 2011.


So I assume we should expect deliveries be end of September? Sure hope so. I'm not normally a very patient person, but I'm really looking forward to this keyboard.
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Gerk on Thu, 25 August 2011, 15:14:11
Hopefully that's the case, but with their track record I'll believe they are shipping when I see an unboxing online (or better yet, when I have mine in my hands).  They always seem to think they are going to ship in 2-3 months time going by their past record -- pretty much every time they've updated their estimated shipping date it's been that sort of time frame anyway, and this new "estimate" lines up with that.  They are literally just about to start the manufacturing process ... who knows what other unforeseen hurdles will hit -- they have certainly seemed to have a lot of them in the process so far.
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Deofol on Thu, 25 August 2011, 21:21:43
Looks like I received an email tonight that was a regurgitation of the blog entry. That's a good sign. :)

From the excessive use of white space, I can tell the enter key in the middle has a very profound effect on typing in general. I can't wait to see my KLOC's increase by ten fold. :llama:
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: sordna on Thu, 25 August 2011, 21:23:49
Which model did you guys pre-order? The 88 or 84 key one?
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: jpc on Thu, 25 August 2011, 21:31:48
Yeah, yeah, TE will ship in October. Probably right around when DNF will come out. Amirite?
Title: a new photo
Post by: sordna on Thu, 25 August 2011, 21:36:43
Hmm, TE updated their website but didn't fix this yet:

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However I must admit this photo looks very nice, especially the 88-key board:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]25043[/ATTACH]
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Gerk on Thu, 25 August 2011, 21:41:32
Quote from: sordna;405251
Hmm, TE updated their website but didn't fix this yet:

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Their email had similar type errors ... dangling d's :)

Quote
We will send you and additional email to verify your delivery address information
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Deofol on Thu, 25 August 2011, 21:55:47
Quote from: sordna;405249
Which model did you guys pre-order? The 88 or 84 key one?

I got the 109 key.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]25046[/ATTACH]

Can't wait to molest the blanks into something useful. I mean seriously, this is a handsome layout.

This is total sex, but I just can't do it. I have to be productive in my professional life.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]25047[/ATTACH]

Hotness, looks like a stealth bomber or something.
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: sordna on Thu, 25 August 2011, 22:00:44
The 109 key is really an 88 key. I counted the keys the other day :-)
The standard version has too few keys (84). It's pretty outrageous that they call their models 104, 105, 109 keys when they have 84 or 88 keys only. Nowhere in their website do they mention the actual number of keys.

Anyway, good choice on the 88 keys, hope it arrives by Christmas!
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Gerk on Thu, 25 August 2011, 22:19:33
I pre-ordered the same model -- the 88/109 with blue's and the qwerty keycaps.

I'll be very happy if I get before Christmas.  At this point I'll be happy if I ever get it, but sooner is always better :)
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Gerk on Thu, 25 August 2011, 22:30:56
Here's some of the missing keys ... at least looks like it from the keycaps in the photo.  Still doesn't add up to 109 though (3 short).

[ATTACH=CONFIG]25049[/ATTACH]

P.S. You made me count the keys too :P
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Deofol on Thu, 25 August 2011, 22:34:11
Quote from: sordna;405270
Anyway, good choice on the 88 keys, hope it arrives by Christmas!

Being a follower of the word of Christ, seems like good timing.

All pessimism aside. These are all good signs they are close to an end. If I were TE I would be fearing the influx when this device hits reality. I can only assume their attention to perfection is appreciated by many and even with delays would save man days of issues.

As a programmer, I say get it right the first time. In my professional life I spend tiring hours telling tiring consumers that changes "will be ready when they are ready".

I can assume here is no different.
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: iMav on Fri, 26 August 2011, 00:12:02
Quote from: ripster;405316
Could also be like the Rapture.  Only a few get the Truly Ergonomic and the remaining Geekhackers are inundated with plague and floods and earthquakes.  Kinda like the East Coast.
Never pegged you for a pre-tribber.
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: JBert on Mon, 29 August 2011, 19:06:50
Quote from: sordna;405270
The 109 key is really an 88 key. I counted the keys the other day :-)
The standard version has too few keys (84). It's pretty outrageous that they call their models 104, 105, 109 keys when they have 84 or 88 keys only. Nowhere in their website do they mention the actual number of keys.
But, but, what about the Fn layer?
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 29 August 2011, 20:26:08
tenkeyless do cost more than standard 104, if they think they can charge more for less keys, they're only following the industry standard.
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: sordna on Mon, 29 August 2011, 21:55:44
Quote from: JBert;407102
But, but, what about the Fn layer?

Doesn't really count. I mean, would you call a tenkeyless with a numpad layer, like an IBM SSK or a Realforce U87 a full 105 key keyboard? Or should I call my Kinesis that has 2 programmable layers a 86*2 = 172 key keyboard?
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: jpc on Tue, 30 August 2011, 07:43:25
Why don't we just type on 4-function calculators with a bunch of layers?
Title: Truly Ergonomic Communication - 20 July 2011
Post by: sordna on Tue, 30 August 2011, 10:45:04
Anyway, I would be OK if TE said "Model 109 (88 physical keys)" or something. I shouldn't have to count the keys from a picture, they should mention the number of physical keys somewhere in their web page, but they don't. The number of physical keys is very important; I wish my Kinesis had 88 instead of 86 keys, so I know that I would never get the TE model 104/105 which only has 84 keys, but I would consider the model 109 with 88 keys.