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Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: molto on Tue, 26 July 2011, 05:14:48: TIPRO MID XM (http://cgi.ebay.de/300581315926?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.de%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570.l2736%26_nkw%3D300581315926%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1)

- no cables (normal ps2)
- ugly stickers that have to been removed on each button
- some missing clear tops on each module

5€ each if someone buys the whole bunch. Also a proxy would be needed.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: REVENGE on Tue, 26 July 2011, 13:55:21: GROUp bUY!!!
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: 7bit on Tue, 26 July 2011, 14:24:13: Quote from: molto;387337
TIPRO MID XM (http://cgi.ebay.de/300581315926?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.de%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570.l2736%26_nkw%3D300581315926%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1)

- no cables (normal ps2)
- ugly stickers that have to been removed on each button
- some missing clear tops on each module

5€ each if someone buys the whole bunch. Also a proxy would be needed.

This is my group buy!

I've discovered them first!
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: REVENGE on Tue, 26 July 2011, 16:01:11: Quote from: 7bit;387604
This is my group buy!

I've discovered them first!
DO IT! I'm in 4 1. :)
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Stevieboy7 on Wed, 27 July 2011, 00:17:11: Id take 1
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: sordna on Wed, 27 July 2011, 01:05:53: I wonder if building a split keyboard is possible with these!
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: 7bit on Wed, 27 July 2011, 08:32:14: Quote from: sordna;387951
I wonder if building a split keyboard is possible with these!

It is. These are modules you can put together and fully programmable.

I will forward these for price/40+shipping costs.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: aggiejy on Wed, 27 July 2011, 09:03:46: N/M... sorry.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: 42.tar.gz on Wed, 27 July 2011, 09:22:26: nevermind :/
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: p.s. on Wed, 27 July 2011, 10:46:40: Quote from: 42.tar.gz;388068
I'd take one, too.
ditto!
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Parak on Wed, 27 July 2011, 11:51:20: Am I wrong, or can these not be used as standalone modules?

http://www.tipro.si/index_products_mid_midkm032a.html:

"In MID product range modules with 32 keys can not accommodate controller due to lack of space. They can be used only as add-on modules."
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: 7bit on Wed, 27 July 2011, 16:53:59: Quote from: Parak;388162
Am I wrong, or can these not be used as standalone modules?

http://www.tipro.si/index_products_mid_midkm032a.html:

"In MID product range modules with 32 keys can not accommodate controller due to lack of space. They can be used only as add-on modules."

Yep, right!
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Parak on Wed, 27 July 2011, 23:52:24: Quote from: 7bit;388346
Yep, right!

Sooo... then unless you already have a [chainable] tipro keyboard that is > 32 keys, these are of minimal use, except maybe for switch/cap harvesting? :p
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: 42.tar.gz on Thu, 28 July 2011, 05:13:05: Quote from: Parak;388162
"In MID product range modules with 32 keys can not accommodate controller due to lack of space. They can be used only as add-on modules."

Uh oh, didn't know that. So I'm out, don't have any use for such a module. :(
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: molto on Thu, 28 July 2011, 05:13:33: ---
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: kbdfr on Thu, 28 July 2011, 08:48:54: Quote from: Parak;388162
Am I wrong, or can these not be used as standalone modules?

http://www.tipro.si/index_products_mid_midkm032a.html:

"In MID product range modules with 32 keys can not accommodate controller due to lack of space. They can be used only as add-on modules."

Quote from: 7bit;388346
Yep, right!

Definitely wrong, even if Tipro published that and other 8x4 units don't have a controller.

I bought one of the units now on offer from the same seller. It has a controller which is screwed on the PCB and, like any other Tipro keyboard, can be used as an add-on module to another Tipro module, or as a standalone keyboard, or chained with any other PS/2 keyboard.

As for the cable, just take a male/male PS/2 cable, remove the small plastic tongue between the pins on one side and use this side for the 8-pin Tipro plug. It will fit perfectly and the keyboad will be entirely functional (I have been using such a cable for weeks now without any problem).
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: 7bit on Thu, 28 July 2011, 09:43:05: Quote from: kbdfr;388699
Definitely wrong, even if Tipro published that and other 8x4 units don't have a controller.

I bought one of the units now on offer from the same seller. It has a controller which is screwed on the PCB and, like any other Tipro keyboard, can be used as an add-on module to another Tipro module, or as a standalone keyboard, or chained with any other PS/2 keyboard.

As for the cable, just take a male/male PS/2 cable, remove the small plastic tongue between the pins on one side and use this side for the 8-pin Tipro plug. It will fit perfectly and the keyboad will be entirely functional (I have been using such a cable for weeks now without any problem).

Does that require a keyboard between the 8x4 unit and a computer?
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: kbdfr on Thu, 28 July 2011, 10:10:30: Quote from: 7bit;388715
Does that require a keyboard between the 8x4 unit and a computer?

No.
- You can use the keyboard alone. It has 32 keys which can be programmed in 4 layers each, which amounts to (as one key will have to be used for switching layers) 31x4=124 different characters (or chains of characters or commands).
- You can use it connected with another Tipro keyboard using a small cable (which is contained in the unit and either end of which has to be plugged onto the PCB of one of the boards). That small flat cable is so short that it requires that both keyboards are side by side, ideally joined through a dedicated plastic part.
- You can use it chained with any other PS/2 keyboard. In that case, it is the 8x4 unit which is connected between the other keyboard and the computer. The PS/2 connector of the "normal" keyboard is plugged into the corresponding plug of the Tipro unit, the Tipro unit itself being connected with the computer through a dedicated Tipro 8-pin to PS/2 cable (if you don't have one, you can make one yourself without particular skills as described a few postings ago). This configuration is the one used to program the Tipro keyboard.

The programming software (named ChangeMe) can be downloaded for free from Tipro's website.

kbdfr, aka the Tiproman :lol:
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Daniel Beaver on Thu, 28 July 2011, 10:12:56: Interesting. Using two of these as a split keyboard would be nice - they have the slope and everything.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: kbdfr on Thu, 28 July 2011, 10:19:44: Quote from: Daniel Beaver;388730
Interesting. Using two of these as a split keyboard would be nice - they have the slope and everything.

Remember these units are 8 keys high and only 4 keys wide. Would 2 of them be enough for a split keyboard?
Well, of course one could use more that 2 of them ;-)

Anyway, there are also 8x8, 8x12 and 8x16 units (and several staggered models as well), but those are quite seldom to be found in black and are in any case quite expensive.

Edit: I forgot to mention that they have Cherry MX black switches.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: 42.tar.gz on Thu, 28 July 2011, 10:23:57: Quote from: kbdfr;388729
[lots of information]

I apparently changed my mind too early. Thanks for the clarification, kbdfr!
So 7bit, are you going to get the lot and distribute the boards?
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Torgee on Thu, 28 July 2011, 19:21:35: i'd be interested in at least one of these
(second depending mostly on price)

so go for it, 7bit

edit: typo
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: tarc on Sat, 30 July 2011, 13:17:26: I would definitively be interested also.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: rodya on Sat, 30 July 2011, 15:05:50: Interested in two of these.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: 7bit on Mon, 01 August 2011, 09:09:34: Quote from: molto;387337
...
- no cables (normal ps2)
- ugly stickers that have to been removed on each button
- some missing clear tops on each module

5€ each if someone buys the whole bunch. Also a proxy would be needed.

Now they are 1.337 EUR per unit shipped (to me;-)!

Price for all who had subscribed to them so far:
$2 plus shipping (Paypal fees must be caried by the buyer)
1.5 EUR plus shipping.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Parak on Mon, 01 August 2011, 13:52:38: Yeah, since we have confirmation that they work standalone (thanks kbdfr), I suppose I'd be interested (if shipping to US is not $ludicrous) in two as well if any are still available. Oy, my wallet.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: tsangan on Mon, 01 August 2011, 13:56:14: I want one!!!
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: REVENGE on Mon, 01 August 2011, 15:59:10: Nice one 7bit. :P
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: p.s. on Mon, 08 August 2011, 14:29:10: Payment sent. 7bit, my new address is in the pm, plz check it. Thanks.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Ekaros on Mon, 08 August 2011, 15:42:04: I take one too if there is left any... Hmm, if they do work, I take two, SEPA prefered...
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: 7bit on Mon, 08 August 2011, 17:51:24: Quote from: Ekaros;395337
I take one too if there is left any... Hmm, if they do work, I take two, SEPA prefered...

There are only a few leftover. I will test them before shipping, so it's 2?

BTW: 25 EUR for a cleaned one.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Ekaros on Mon, 08 August 2011, 18:05:17: Quote from: 7bit;395430
There are only a few leftover. I will test them before shipping, so it's 2?

BTW: 25 EUR for a cleaned one.

Sure, what is the price for those 2 with shipping? No need to clean for me...
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: typetypetype on Mon, 08 August 2011, 21:00:53: I'm interested in one as well! How much will it be for one to the US?

Edit: No need to clean for me either beforehand. Thanks!
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: peddy on Tue, 09 August 2011, 00:08:57: I'm interested in one please, shipping to New Zealand (I'll clean it myself, too)

Thanks!
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Minskleip on Tue, 09 August 2011, 03:37:56: Are they greasy? :D
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: rodya on Sun, 14 August 2011, 06:55:00: Thanks 7bit for organizing this! And thanks kbdfr for confirming information about the modules!
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: 7bit on Sun, 14 August 2011, 07:38:50: I've started shipping. I will ship all the rest within this week.

Quote from: Ekaros;395445
Sure, what is the price for those 2 with shipping? No need to clean for me...

1.5 EUR per unit plus 9 EUR for shipping.

I accept no more orders for that cheap price, all are sold out.

If anybody else wants one, just tell me what you are willing to pay!

Quote from: Minskleip;395706
Are they greasy? :D

They are quite dirty. Inside, there is a lot of dust.

You can also expect paper cut-outs and office clips, etc.

BTW: I've cleaned one unit under water with a brush. After a few days to let it dry, I plugged it in and it worked.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: REVENGE on Sun, 14 August 2011, 14:30:40: Quote from: 7bit;398653
I've started shipping. I will ship all the rest within this week.

1.5 EUR per unit plus 9 EUR for shipping.

I accept no more orders for that cheap price, all are sold out.

If anybody else wants one, just tell me what you are willing to pay!

They are quite dirty. Inside, there is a lot of dust.

You can also expect paper cut-outs and office clips, etc.

BTW: I've cleaned one unit under water with a brush. After a few days to let it dry, I plugged it in and it worked.
Hey, will you be sending me a PayPal invoice sometime?
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Minskleip on Sun, 14 August 2011, 16:20:23: Quote from: 7bit;398653
They are quite dirty. Inside, there is a lot of dust.

You can also expect paper cut-outs and office clips, etc.

BTW: I've cleaned one unit under water with a brush. After a few days to let it dry, I plugged it in and it worked.

Lol nice. Hope there's no animals in there. Can't wait to try some blacks!
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Parak on Sun, 14 August 2011, 20:02:02: I never actually saw any info about payment, so I guess I missed out? :(
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Ekaros on Mon, 15 August 2011, 00:28:28: Quote from: 7bit;398653
I've started shipping. I will ship all the rest within this week.

1.5 EUR per unit plus 9 EUR for shipping.

I accept no more orders for that cheap price, all are sold out.

If anybody else wants one, just tell me what you are willing to pay!

They are quite dirty. Inside, there is a lot of dust.

You can also expect paper cut-outs and office clips, etc.

BTW: I've cleaned one unit under water with a brush. After a few days to let it dry, I plugged it in and it worked.

Two will do for same 9€?

Can I have payment info/(if SEPA ok, IBAN, name, address, bank name and message/numeric-code)?
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: peddy on Mon, 15 August 2011, 00:51:32: You've got a PM, 7bit :-)
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: REVENGE on Mon, 05 September 2011, 00:27:57: Got mine, but I'm unable to program them using PS/2. I'm thinking of building a Mini-DIN 8 to RS232 cable.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Minskleip on Tue, 06 September 2011, 05:50:11: PS2 programming won't work on 64 bits computers! I installed an old one just for Tipro programming (and now also as an integral part of my new desk).
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: xbb on Tue, 06 September 2011, 07:34:39: Quote from: Minskleip;411254
PS2 programming won't work on 64 bits computers! I installed an old one just for Tipro programming (and now also as an integral part of my new desk).
Win7 32bit will do?
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Minskleip on Tue, 06 September 2011, 07:53:49: The changeme program works for both 32 and 64 bit Win7, it's just programming over PS2 that require 32 bit. I used WinXP, but Win7 should be fine as well.
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: REVENGE on Tue, 06 September 2011, 22:33:42: Quote from: Minskleip;411283
The changeme program works for both 32 and 64 bit Win7, it's just programming over PS2 that require 32 bit. I used WinXP, but Win7 should be fine as well.

Eh... Well that's not good. I installed changeme on 32bit Windows Vista and detected nothing over PS/2... What is the manufacturing date for your keypad?
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: Minskleip on Wed, 07 September 2011, 03:37:36: It has a white sticker with 2010. (The serial starts with 2002 then lotsofnumbers)
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: 7bit on Sat, 22 October 2011, 07:48:57: I've shipped them all (at least I think so)!

Did anybody not get their Tipros yet?
Title: MO this: 40 Tipro MX Black 32 Bttn Modules
Post by: rodya on Tue, 25 October 2011, 02:49:36: I've gotten all mine. Thank you very much 7bit.