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Title: skil tool set
Post by: slueth on Mon, 15 August 2011, 04:55:33
http://www.woot.com/
does any of these open model m keyboards?
was thinking of getting one of these but am not sure if it would fit or not fit.
Title: skil tool set
Post by: Ascaii on Mon, 15 August 2011, 05:00:29
no. you will need a precision nut driver 7/32' (5.5mm)

the drives in that kit will be too thick to fit in the well of the model M.
Title: skil tool set
Post by: cactux on Mon, 15 August 2011, 06:53:30
This is the only tool the you need (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-DuraTrax-Precision-Nut-Driver-5-32-x75mm-DTXR0228-/390324730607?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5ae12abaef#ht_765wt_956)
Title: skil tool set
Post by: slueth on Mon, 15 August 2011, 07:00:04
thanks guys :D ordered.
Title: skil tool set
Post by: kpeezy on Mon, 15 August 2011, 08:01:40
Wow, sorry but that is a terrible deal. Any smaller socket wrench set should be just fine. I have a $5 socket wrench set with 15+ socket sizes and it works just fine on my model M.
Title: skil tool set
Post by: mmmty on Mon, 15 August 2011, 09:37:50
Thanks!! I saw it this morning but didn't pay much attention to it. Just ordered 3 sets. You can combine shipping or I would have only ordered 1 set.
Title: skil tool set
Post by: N8N on Mon, 15 August 2011, 15:30:45
they're not particularly high quality, but the appropriate sized 1/4" drive socket from my Crapsman socket set combined with a 1/4" hand driver (screwdriver-looking handle) works fine for taking apart Model M's.

I've found that when buying tools at Sears, it's not worth it to buy individual sockets; they're priced such that you might as well buy the whole set, otherwise you end up paying more overall for only the 2 or 3 sockets that you need.
Title: skil tool set
Post by: slueth on Sat, 20 August 2011, 08:23:49
Quote from: cactux;399176
This is the only tool the you need (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-DuraTrax-Precision-Nut-Driver-5-32-x75mm-DTXR0228-/390324730607?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5ae12abaef#ht_765wt_956)

@cactux doh.. 7/32... its too small! I have to reorder.. not sure what I am gonna do with this one.. i got
Title: skil tool set
Post by: ironman31 on Sat, 20 August 2011, 11:51:29
klein is the only way to go
Title: skil tool set
Post by: slueth on Sat, 20 August 2011, 15:13:19
Finally got the right one.. anyone want a 5/32 :D
Title: skil tool set
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Sat, 20 August 2011, 22:55:43
I just found an aven metric set on amazon. It was $17, but also has the 4 mm for if I need to bolt mod (the one I opened did not need it). I have amazon prime, so that's the real reason that's the one I got.
Title: skil tool set
Post by: Necroleachate on Wed, 24 August 2011, 20:54:15
Is this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Klein-S7-VACO-7-32-Hollow-shank-Nut-Driver-3-Shank-/190541584858?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5d29d9da#ht_500wt_1397 the right size?
Title: skil tool set
Post by: Konrad on Wed, 24 August 2011, 21:42:22
Um, it's a 7/32" nutdriver. You can probably buy them, individually or in sets, at your local big box hardware store or automotive parts store. Or basic Sears Craftsman stuff or even your local Wal-Mart. You might know a mechanic who can lend you one. No need to special order online for what is really a very basic and common tool, especially since you probably won't get anything better than what your local retailers offer without paying a premium.

I personally prefer sets with interchangable bits and socket heads, more versatile, less space, and I can always purchase single socket/bit pieces as needed in the future. Dedicated nutdrivers and screwdrivers (that is, socket/bit is permanently affixed to handle instead of being swappable) are only useful if you'll need to use that particular tool size on a frequent basis.

Most manufacturers don't advertise the clearance of the driver shaft, ie: the outer diameter of the socket head. It needs to be slim enough to fit into the recess unless you want to destroy the surrounding plastics just like that impatient loser at Deskthority. The item advertised in your eBay link doesn't specify outer diameter at all (no surprise), although it does look a little wide on the picture. Some PC computer toolkits might include the exact tool you need, since this outer-diameter problem used to be an issue back in the days when important serial and parallel ports were crowded together, although to be honest most such toolkits tend to be overpriced collections of the cheapest versions of the most redundantly useless tools you could possibly never need when fixing a PC - anyone who actually knows what they're doing inside a computer has usually assembled their own better toolkit anyhow.

Seriously, take your keyboard to your local hardware store and spend $10-20 on a complete socket set instead. It'll even accept both proper SI/Metric and silly Imperial socket heads, so you needn't bother trusting Ripster's dubious mathematical approximations. If this is one-shot job and you don't plan to disassemble this or other keyboards in the future then perhaps just use tweezers or needle nose pliers instead.
Title: skil tool set
Post by: Necroleachate on Thu, 25 August 2011, 14:02:29
Yeah. The big problem is the outer diameter. Didin't find one small enough yet.
Title: skil tool set
Post by: Konrad on Thu, 25 August 2011, 18:26:27
Pro's Kit (http://www.proskit.com/screwdrivers/sockets-and-drivers) carries the tool you need, although it's only one piece of a small set, note that "thin wall" is specifically mentioned.  (Pro's Kit ain't the greatest, but it's the sort of Made In China stuff that's used by the Chinese who make stuff in China, basically as much engineering effort goes into the product as the process which makes the product, an odd balance of quality and cheap.  My local electronic suppliers are all Proskit distributors, so basically these are the same tools that I'll find on local store shelves.)

Kobalt, Wiha, Mac Tools, and Snap-On probably offer the best quality and precision in socket and driver type tool bits/heads.  A bit overkill and expensive if you'll hardly use the tools for any other work.  Apparently Craftsman (ie: Sears), Stanley, Durabrand (ie: Wal-Mart), and Husky (ie: Home Depot) all offer thin sockets under a variety of names.
Title: skil tool set
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Fri, 26 August 2011, 23:45:46
lulwat? I had all sort of sets of tools available to attempt to use for that. Including several sets of various pc toolkit stuff. None of them would fit in the hole or even if they did they still weren't able to turn anything, no matter how close in size. I went to a couple of hardware stores and all they had were sets in general, none of which had the 5.5 one in it. So yeah it does pretty much need to be ordered online unless you have it already somehow.