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Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: dreadful on Tue, 23 August 2011, 14:34:51

A month or two I saw post on here that said Rosewill had new mechanical keyboards coming. In that post it said that the brown switch board would most likely be out in August. Since then I haven't seen anything about it. I was wondering if anyone has seen any updates.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: noodles256 on Tue, 23 August 2011, 14:48:30

you was a post?

the glories of evolution.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Pylon on Tue, 23 August 2011, 14:53:52

They were back in stock around a week ago. Since then they've sold out again.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Yaysian on Tue, 23 August 2011, 15:09:10

There is still 5 in stock on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/ROSEWILL-RK-9000-USB-MECHANICAL-RETAIL/dp/B004F38Y7Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314130121&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/ROSEWILL-RK-9000-USB-MECHANICAL-RETAIL/dp/B004F38Y7Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314130121&sr=8-1)

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: dreadful on Tue, 23 August 2011, 17:20:47

Quote from: noodles256;404046

you was a post?

the glories of evolution.

Sometimes I think I might be a dyslexic typist if there is such a thing. Every now and then I catch myself typing small words backwards; guess I missed that one.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: dreamingftw on Tue, 23 August 2011, 18:22:04

Quote from: dreadful;404110

Sometimes I think I might be a dyslexic typist if there is such a thing. Every now and then I catch myself typing small words backwards; guess I missed that one.

They need to make a mechanical keyboard with spell check built in :0

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: vuld on Wed, 24 August 2011, 15:45:25

just found this on the reddit.com/r/starcraft


http://www.legitreviews.com/news/11338/



unfortunately i just got one...hopefully not too much of a difference from these new ones...


already on the website too.

http://www.rosewill.com/products/1611/productDetail.htm

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: TexasFlood on Wed, 24 August 2011, 16:13:38

I'm hoping the major changes are the detachable cable, which is cool if not critical, and being also available in cherry black/brown/red.  Now THAT would be cool, might prompt me to buy more.  Hell just remove the might from there, ;-D, I'd just have to decide if I go for a brown or red, don't see getting both.  Have the blue already.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 24 August 2011, 16:17:14

rosewill redssssssssssss

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: TexasFlood on Wed, 24 August 2011, 19:22:55

Quote from: noodles256;404510

rosewill redssssssssssss

Kinda rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?  Wish I'd typed on reds to know if I liked them better than browns.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: sordna on Wed, 24 August 2011, 19:27:43

Oh, reds are so good, imagine a brown without that friction in the middle of the stroke.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: vuld on Thu, 25 August 2011, 07:42:18

just got my blue yesterday. They do come with a detachable mini usb to ps/2 or usb adapter :)...

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: TexasFlood on Thu, 25 August 2011, 08:14:13

Quote from: sordna;404578

Oh, reds are so good, imagine a brown without that friction in the middle of the stroke.

Hmm. Everybody seems to love reds, except Oqsy who seems to hate them, not clear why. Guess I have some time to read opinions since the RK-9000 w/ reds doesn't seem to be available yet and I'm too poor right now anyway even if it was.  I just bought a speakerphone, keyboards and a touchpad so my I/T budget is pretty much blown right now.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Gerk on Thu, 25 August 2011, 11:43:17

Quote from: noodles256;404510

rosewill redssssssssssss

Sounds like a baseball team.  I don't much care for reds either, or at least the couple of setups I've tried with them to date.  I'm a confirmed blue's fan.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Thu, 25 August 2011, 14:12:17

Quote from: dreamingftw;404145

They need to make a mechanical keyboard with spell check built in :0

Wouldn't help. He did spell a word correctly.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: cirE on Thu, 25 August 2011, 23:14:08

With the addition of the detachable cable and availability with any switch type, I'd venture to say that this will be of the best and most affordable keyboards on the market. It's really too bad I hate the Rosewill logo so much that I'd never consider buying one. I'm pretty sure Newegg owns Rosewill, I'm not sure why they don't just put the Newegg logo on their merchandise.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: sordna on Fri, 26 August 2011, 00:28:47

Quote from: ripster;405312

An Egg logo on my keyboard? I'm still getting used to Duckys Fowling keyboards.
(Attachment) 25051[/ATTACH]

Didn't you know newegg's logo represents duck eggs? An egg and a ducky will make a wonderful matching set.

@cirE: You can just put a sticker of your choice to cover the Rosewill logo, if you really like this keyboard don't let the logo deter you from getting it! Other way to go is a semi-custom WASDkeyboard at $119, it doesn't have the nifty detachable cable, but the logo is much better, and it's been getting great reviews. No MX reds yet though.

Title: got my rosewill
Post by: fluxrez on Fri, 26 August 2011, 01:32:01

Just received my Rosewill rk-9000 from Amazon.  It shipped from newegg.  It has features the reviews didn't mention.  Namely it comes with two detachable cables, USB and PS/2.  It has slick laser printed keys.  Still Cherry MX Blue switches.  I have to say the red metal plate under the keys sure is a nice touch.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: sordna on Fri, 26 August 2011, 01:42:57

Congratulations on a fine board, and welcome to GeekHack !

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: fluxrez on Fri, 26 August 2011, 01:50:36

I can't believe I used to use a razer lycosa. Pretty blue lights only are impressive for so long...

The RK-9000 says on the box "Laser Printed".  Is that the same as "Laser Etched"?

I can't really tell by looking at it.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: DaemonRaccoon on Fri, 26 August 2011, 20:33:30

Laser printed generally means that the grooves left by the laser are filled in with paint after the etching is done.

I wish my RK-9000 had a detachable cable.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Fri, 26 August 2011, 21:30:34

Yeah, the pair of cables is a really nice change :D
Laser infilled?  Is that what this is?  It feels like decals... VERY thick and yucky feeling legends.  I plan on getting a WASD set, likely otaku, to get rid of the yucky legends.  I also have some thoughts on the rosewill logo, like maybe a mr clean magic eraser :P

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: sordna on Fri, 26 August 2011, 21:43:25

mini USB is great, I use the same cable switching it back and forth to my KBC Poker and my digital camera :-)
I had a Comfort Keyboard System with a detachable cable too, but that had the big squarish USB female plug, like the ones found on printers.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: fluxrez on Sat, 27 August 2011, 15:01:16

Quote from: Oqsy;405757

Yeah, the pair of cables is a really nice change :D
Laser infilled?  Is that what this is?  It feels like decals... VERY thick and yucky feeling legends.  I plan on getting a WASD set, likely otaku, to get rid of the yucky legends.  I also have some thoughts on the rosewill logo, like maybe a mr clean magic eraser :P

I believe they changed the key printing method on the new rosewills as well.  Mine isnice.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sat, 27 August 2011, 16:33:30

I don't like to feel the legend so much. If it is a THICK infill then its not as bad as I thought. I was guessing decals, but I didn't even read the "laser" bit on the box. It is possible that they're laser cut decals and the box wouldn't be incorrect, though. :P
I'll wait for more info before dissing the thick legends any more. It IS a nice board for the price. Hell, its just a nice board.

The logo has gotta go!
Cursive/Script on a keyboard just looks wrong. No logo or something clean and simple would do wonders for the appearance!

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: fluxrez on Sun, 28 August 2011, 14:36:35

I totally agree about the logo. I am looking around for something to cover it with.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: DaemonRaccoon on Sun, 28 August 2011, 14:49:01

Somebody post some pictures of the new version.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: hashbaz on Sun, 28 August 2011, 17:08:34

I really like the Rosewill logo.  It's classy and not all "high-tech" looking.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: DaemonRaccoon on Sun, 28 August 2011, 17:11:47

Quote from: hashbaz;406589

I really like the Rosewill logo.  It's classy and not all "high-tech" looking.

The ® detracts from the classiness of it, but I agree.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: fossala on Sun, 28 August 2011, 17:12:48

Quote from: hashbaz;406589

I really like the Rosewill logo.  It's classy and not all "high-tech" looking.

I think it's too big and too distracting.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: DaemonRaccoon on Sun, 28 August 2011, 17:14:37

You're not supposed to look at the keyboard whilst typing.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sun, 28 August 2011, 17:17:00

It looks like the sign for a gated community. "Welcome to Rosewill, where every home is the same.  Visitors, please check in at the gate to get your community uniform and name tag. Absolutely NO talking!  God Bless the USA!"

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sun, 28 August 2011, 17:30:51

Hey!  I have a friend named Rose, and she isn't easy!  I'm offended!  WAH WAH WAH!!

Ping!

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Megaweapon on Sun, 28 August 2011, 18:43:53

The Rosewill logo makes me think of the logos on pianos or antique typewriters.  I think it looks fine -- especially with the Round 1 doubleshots.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: teraflame on Sun, 28 August 2011, 18:49:44

I always thought rosewill was a cheap knockoff brand that was only popular on newegg because they were....cheap.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: fluxrez on Sun, 28 August 2011, 22:50:35

Quote from: teraflame;406626

I always thought rosewill was a cheap knockoff brand that was only popular on newegg because they were....cheap.

 
Cheap?  In price, yes compared to other mechanicals.  THe quality seems pretty darn good (keep in mind this is my first mechanical).
Knockoff, definately, I think even the font for the "Lock num caps scroll" area is identical to Filcos.
But hey, are those necessarily bad things?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: slueth on Sun, 28 August 2011, 23:00:36

Rosewill isn't a cheap knockoff brand, its newegg's brand that is why it is sold for cheaper. It is a house label of Newegg.com.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: fluxrez on Sun, 28 August 2011, 23:12:16

(http://i55.tinypic.com/2ivogo7.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/k2y3bs.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2qdsynm.jpg)

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sun, 28 August 2011, 23:35:16

Except for external appearance stuff and the detachable cables, it's identical to a Filco. The only differences I've found from my previous tenkeyless mj2 are:

1. Detachable mini USB to USB cable and mini usb to PS/2 cable. (point rosewill)
2. Logo(half a point Filco)
3. Painted plate (wash)
4. Raised legends on the key caps (thicker infill?) (wash, both are thin flimsy junk caps, but if it IS infill on the Rosewill, it will likely be a bit tougher than Filco's trash keycaps)
5. No rubber "condoms" on the fold-out feet. (point Filco)
*6. Numpad present.
*7. MX blues

*options that exist for Filco models, so are not really relevant.


So on those few small differences a Filco comes out a bit ahead IMO, but not enough of a difference to pay a premium. Very minor stuff. If you are considering a 104 key Filco with blues, save yourself the cash and get a Rosewill. (other Rosewill switch options in the works)  The Filco logo is not that much better than the Rosewill, and I hate the Rosewill logo. The saved money can go toward quality PBT or doubleshot ABS keycaps that should be standard on the Filco at its price point! ;)

Overall I'm pleased with the Rosewill, and find it identical to the Filco or better(detachable cables!!) in all of the places that matter for function/quality. I will post some pics after work tomorrow.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Quarzac on Mon, 29 August 2011, 00:30:49

I'll probably be picking one of these up when they put out the brown version. Either that or I'll get a Das for $8 more.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: teraflame on Mon, 29 August 2011, 00:42:24

Quote from: Quarzac;406744

I'll probably be picking one of these up when they put out the brown version. Either that or I'll get a Das for $8 more.

Or get a WASD for a little more.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: noodles256 on Mon, 29 August 2011, 01:31:25

or a topre for a little more

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Mon, 29 August 2011, 02:00:00

Or get a porsche for a lot more...

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: noodles256 on Mon, 29 August 2011, 09:37:29

or a bugatti veyron for a little more

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Mon, 29 August 2011, 09:57:19

Or one of the retired space shuttles for a little less

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: noodles256 on Mon, 29 August 2011, 10:19:37

or a cheeseburger from mickey d's for a little less

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Mon, 29 August 2011, 22:33:38

Make that a royal with cheese.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: woody on Tue, 30 August 2011, 03:01:40

Le Big Mac?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Tue, 30 August 2011, 15:20:10

Rosewill pics coming, I swear!

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: noodles256 on Tue, 30 August 2011, 15:37:55

sweet ping

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 30 August 2011, 18:58:34

"Ping" ain't no country I ever heard of! They speak English in "Ping"?!

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sat, 03 September 2011, 00:41:09

Ok, took some pics in a couple different groups because most of the first set sucked so bad they're unusable.

In the box with my own "Anti-Ghost key" installed:
(http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp81/Oqsy/Rosewill%20RK-9000/rosewill.jpg)

USB jack, just above numpad:
(http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp81/Oqsy/Rosewill%20RK-9000/usb_jack.jpg)

USB cable close-ups:
(http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp81/Oqsy/Rosewill%20RK-9000/usb_braid_2.jpg)
(http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp81/Oqsy/Rosewill%20RK-9000/usb_braid.jpg)

Gen 2 Label:
(http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp81/Oqsy/Rosewill%20RK-9000/label.jpg)

Feet are sans-condom:
(http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp81/Oqsy/Rosewill%20RK-9000/foot.jpg)

Key caps have VERY thick legends, supposedly they're not decals, but they're the thickest legends I've ever come across:
(http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp81/Oqsy/Rosewill%20RK-9000/WASD.jpg)

I tried a closeup on the Esc, but my camera and lighting in my home are fail for such details:
(http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp81/Oqsy/Rosewill%20RK-9000/esc.jpg)

Overhead on my work bench:
(http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp81/Oqsy/Rosewill%20RK-9000/censored.jpg)

All pictures taken with a Canon P&S, poor lighting, and my shaky hands.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sat, 03 September 2011, 00:48:59

Pics that didn't turn out include pics with a key cap removed, logo/LED closeups, and some others I can't remember.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sat, 03 September 2011, 02:45:00

I'll check and report back.
(http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/image/composition/17164480/view/1/producttypecolor/2/type/png/width/280/height/280/what-a-fine-day-for-science_design.png)

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 03 September 2011, 06:48:38

IS the first row (escape and function keys) supposed to be that tall?

http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd476/seqingzi/13.jpg

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: sordna on Sat, 03 September 2011, 09:38:46

Quote from: Oqsy;409790

All pictures taken with a Canon P&S, poor lighting, and my shaky hands.

Wow, these are top-notch photos!!! You really prove Ken Rockwell right (http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/notcamera.htm), in the right hands a simple cheap camera can take outstanding pictures.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sat, 03 September 2011, 09:55:42

Umm, wow.  Thanks Ripster and Sordna.  My eyes have been fail for the last couple of years, and I've had 4 eye surgeries this summer, with 2 more looming sometime soon.  I suppose these pics may be better than I realized, but through my eyes they look like awful cell phone pics.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sat, 03 September 2011, 10:04:02

Quote from: ripster;409798

Nice Pics!

Nice high contrast on those keys, especially for lasereds.

Are the keys the same as Filcos when you turn them upside down?

Show Image

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=21625&d=1311214357)

 
Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Yes, they do.

Identical "wavy" texture on the flat surface, same vertical cross-supports, same cylindrical vertical supports in the corners.  I'd guess these caps started out identical to the Filco caps, and legends were added later to Rosewill/Newegg specs.  Or maybe this is what Filco caps will look like in the near future.  It's kind of sad when the Newegg house-brand keyboard has identical caps to the de facto "elite" cherry mx board for cheaper, and with better legends (I still don't like the way they FEEL, but I'll live with it until I can get my hands on something custom that suits me better)

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: tribbe on Sat, 03 September 2011, 12:10:31

Quote from: ripster;409945

I also look not so hot but feel great.

Ask my wife.

Turning off the lights helps.

 
I'd tickle your brown switch even with lights on. Ping!

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sat, 03 September 2011, 12:16:56

post I was responding to here must have been deleted :D

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: drsauced on Sat, 03 September 2011, 13:12:57

Well, OK, here's the thread that I should have searched for.  Nothing to see here.

Anybody get a Leopold 500R to compare keycaps against?

Ping.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sun, 04 September 2011, 02:32:12

Ok, my camera is not available at the moment, but I did disassemble the board today, and it appears the controller HAS changed since the first edition.  "Filco" appears nowhere on the current controller.  The PCB is pretty cool, it has labels for every key on the back next to the solder points of each switch.  That might come in handy for anyone needing to replace a single switch, as well as making the matrix even easier to eyeball.  

In other news, I *did* successfully remove the Rosewill logo today.  Now I have to decide what to do in that location, because that big blank space looks a bit odd.
Hmmm, I wonder if I can get my hands on some very small car badge letters in a decent typeface :D

Edit: Maybe something like this. :P
(http://www.chromeautoemblems.com/images/57%20Black%20Skull%20Emblem.jpg)

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: jpm804 on Sun, 04 September 2011, 02:53:51

@Oqsy - would love to see pics with the logo removed. Also I assume the metal backplate is still red?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sun, 04 September 2011, 02:58:40

yes, see pics on previous page.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sun, 04 September 2011, 03:04:04

Took some quick iphone pics.

Nasty, but they illustrate what I wanted to share.

Eeww tapatalk murdered the already bad pics. Will fix tomorrow

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: jpm804 on Sun, 04 September 2011, 03:17:07

Quote from: Oqsy;410346

yes, see pics on previous page.

Sorry missed that.. thanks
 

Quote from: Oqsy;410350

Took some quick iphone pics.

Nasty, but they illustrate what I wanted to share.

Eeww tapatalk murdered the already bad pics. Will fix tomorrow

Wow looks so much better, sorry if I missed it but what did you use to remove the logo.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: hyperq on Sun, 04 September 2011, 03:39:08

Quote from: Oqsy;410338

In other news, I *did* successfully remove the Rosewill logo today.  Now I have to decide what to do in that location, because that big blank space looks a bit odd.

What did you use to remove the Rosewill logo?  Paint thinner?  Is there any damage to the plastic from the solvent?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Quarzac on Sun, 04 September 2011, 16:51:26

I wonder if these boards will be $100 as well. I kinda wanna try reds and browns, as I've realized that I really don't feel tactility in my keyboards.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: minhtri on Sun, 04 September 2011, 20:16:15

IIRC, Rosewill red switch RK-9000RE is ~ 130$

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Quarzac on Sun, 04 September 2011, 20:50:31

That'll hardly be competitive in October, considering the PLU boards that I can get for ~$100. And even less so if WASD has reds by then.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Sun, 04 September 2011, 21:06:41

Where did that price come from?  I don't think prices or model numbers have been announced for any Rosewills(mech) besides the currently shipping Rev2 with blues.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: minhtri on Sun, 04 September 2011, 21:43:46

Quote from: Oqsy;410671

Where did that price come from?  I don't think prices or model numbers have been announced for any Rosewills(mech) besides the currently shipping Rev2 with blues.

they put them on their website, but removed later

http://www.rosewill.com/Commons/SearchResult.aspx?key=RK-9000&st=0

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: fluxrez on Mon, 05 September 2011, 11:39:46

Quote from: Oqsy;410338

In other news, I *did* successfully remove the Rosewill logo today.

How did you get the logo off?  I am extremely interested in doing the same.  Please don't say sand blasted.  =D

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: hyperq on Mon, 05 September 2011, 11:49:56

I am guessing he used Dot 3 brake fluid, Gasoline, or WD-40.  Which one?  Any side effects?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Mon, 05 September 2011, 12:40:52

Will share after I take better after pics and sort out some details.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Mon, 05 September 2011, 12:43:43

WD40 is a good idea tho...  I should have tried that first.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: hyperq on Mon, 05 September 2011, 17:47:02

Quote from: ripster;410944

My guess is OqsyClean.

*****es love OqsyClean.

Oh, right! His screen name makes so much sense now.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Mon, 05 September 2011, 20:23:52

Keycap legends != case logos. Filco's is that squatty retrofuturist typeface applied like a car dealership badge. The Rosewill logo appears to be pad printed or a similar "painted on" method. No fancy laser infill, no decal, just a layer of white ink sitting on top of the plastic.  In other words, easily dealt with.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Tue, 06 September 2011, 09:02:36

Took this on my desk at work. I wish I could get my hands on a Caps Lock,R Shift, and L Shift in
the right size to make the 3 alpha rows white all the way across.[ATTACH=CONFIG]26024[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]26025[/ATTACH]

Edit: uploaded better quality pics from home computer... tapatalk is doing weird stuff to my pics lately.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Tue, 06 September 2011, 09:04:17

Tapatalk photo attachments keep sucking. Grr.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: NumberJ on Tue, 06 September 2011, 09:34:00

Do the Rosewills use costar or cherry style stabilizers?

I'd rather have a leo since it would come with blank keycaps to begin with and I wouldn't have to switch them out, but I'll get the rosewill if
they use the same stabilizers as filcos.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: NumberJ on Tue, 06 September 2011, 09:49:54

I wonder how EK is going to get their leos to sell if the rosewills are basically the same thing, but 10 bucks cheaper and with better stabilizers. Not sure about other people, but I'm just going to wait for newegg to get in stock.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 06 September 2011, 09:53:14

Aesthetics play a big role.  The Rosewill is ugly, IMO, so I would buy the Leopold over the Rosewill.  While I do like the Filco-style stabilizers a little better, it's not enough for me to put a big block of ugly on my desk.

The Leopold isn't a whole lot better, so I say get a WASD instead.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 06 September 2011, 09:56:42

Quote from: Quarzac;410666

That'll hardly be competitive in October, considering the PLU boards that I can get for ~$100. And even less so if WASD has reds by then.

Rosewill build quality is better.

Anyone know if they plan to offer tenkeyless?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: sordna on Tue, 06 September 2011, 10:24:37

Quote from: Oqsy;411305

Took this on my desk at work. I wish I could get my hands on a Caps Lock,R Shift, and L Shift in the right size to make the 3 alpha rows white all the way across.

You forgot the Tab, backslash, and Enter keys! You can get all these keys in white from wasdkeyboards.com at $1 each if you don't mind blanks.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Tue, 06 September 2011, 10:41:01

No I didnt. They fit.  It just looks ugly with those on but not Caps or the shifts. This is much easier on the eyes, and covers all the letters and the bulk of the punctuation putting a white at |\ and/or tab would look utterly nasty, and I won't even consider enter until I can cover all 3 rows.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: N8N on Tue, 06 September 2011, 11:02:22

Quote from: itlnstln;411331

Aesthetics play a big role.  The Rosewill is ugly, IMO, so I would buy the Leopold over the Rosewill.  While I do like the Filco-style stabilizers a little better, it's not enough for me to put a big block of ugly on my desk.

The Leopold isn't a whole lot better, so I say get a WASD instead.

I really don't find the Rosewill ugly... except for that damn logo!

Seriously, why make what is apparently a high end keyboard and slap that goofy looking logo on it?  Couldn't they just pay a graphic designer to come up with something a little more attractive?  Other than the logo, it pretty much looks like a Filco with a red plate, which isn't really a bad thing in my mind, whatever quibbles I might have about Filcos (no cable channels or detachable cable option, for one) I think it's a nice, squared away board that's kind of elegant and understated, and the logo doesn't scream "I bought my keyboard at Big Lots" like the Rosewill does.

Granted, that's a little hypocritical of me, as I was using a Cherry POS board at work for a while, but when you're paying >$100 for a keyboard, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect it to exhibit a little more class.

That said, has anyone figured out how to remove the logo w/o damaging the case?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: N8N on Tue, 06 September 2011, 11:05:18

Quote from: Oqsy;411305

Show Image

(http://tapatalk.com/mu/a6cd0a0e-2825-49c8.jpg)

Took this on my desk at work. I wish I could get my hands on a Caps Lock,R Shift, and L Shift in
the right size to make the 3 alpha rows white all the way across.

I like that just the way it is...  if I can ever get some white doubleshots I was thinking of doing that to my Filco, but with a white space bar, alternating white/black F-keys, and white numbers on the numpad (e.g. classic white/grey layout except with black instead of grey.)

OR maybe do the opposite and use grey with black.

Or do I need to buy another keyboard so that I could take two sets of keys and do both?

But anyway, don't keep us hanging, how did you get the logo off?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 06 September 2011, 11:31:50

Quote from: N8N;411383

I really don't find the Rosewill ugly... except for that damn logo!

Seriously, why make what is apparently a high end keyboard and slap that goofy looking logo on it?  Couldn't they just pay a graphic designer to come up with something a little more attractive?  Other than the logo, it pretty much looks like a Filco with a red plate, which isn't really a bad thing in my mind, whatever quibbles I might have about Filcos (no cable channels or detachable cable option, for one) I think it's a nice, squared away board that's kind of elegant and understated, and the logo doesn't scream "I bought my keyboard at Big Lots" like the Rosewill does.

Granted, that's a little hypocritical of me, as I was using a Cherry POS board at work for a while, but when you're paying >$100 for a keyboard, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect it to exhibit a little more class.

That said, has anyone figured out how to remove the logo w/o damaging the case?

Well everyone has been over this already in this thread, but I really like the logo, and the red PCB.

The new Rosewills do have a detachable cable, but still no channels AFAIK.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Tue, 06 September 2011, 14:30:13

Updated pics from earlier today.

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=26024)
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=26025&d=1315337272)

The controller pic has been edited to allow the text to be read more easily, it was very blown out and I was lucky to get it to this point with some photoshop gradient and levels tricks...  it doesn't appear to be the same controller as the first generation Rosewill boards, as I had suggested somewhere earlier.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 06 September 2011, 14:40:05

New-Fangled KeyBoard.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Tue, 06 September 2011, 14:54:49

Any *other* pretentious keyboards

Damn straight. $160 for a shiny spacebar, ping, and no detachable cable?  I'll pass on the pretentious keyboards in general, thx.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: N8N on Tue, 06 September 2011, 15:06:20

Quote from: hashbaz;411405

Well everyone has been over this already in this thread, but I really like the logo, and the red PCB.

The new Rosewills do have a detachable cable, but still no channels AFAIK.

I actually like the red plate, just not the logo.  I apologize to any Rosewill reps that may be reading this that may have taken my comments the same way you did, that is not what I intended :)

That said, I think it's not so much that the logo is a real deal breaker for me - if I didn't already have too many keyboards it would definitely be under consideration.  It's one of those things like finding a Porsche with an automatic transmission - it's still a great car, but with this one glaring flaw that is going to annoy you every time you get behind the wheel :)

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 06 September 2011, 15:15:03

Amen, brother.

You're my number pun, er, one.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 06 September 2011, 15:37:53

The R2 logo isn't that bad.  The whole "Rosewill" logo would look better on a baseball jersey, though.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]26032[/ATTACH]

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: hashbaz on Tue, 06 September 2011, 15:40:08

Heh, I was just thinking it reminded me of

[ATTACH=CONFIG]26033[/ATTACH]

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: N8N on Tue, 06 September 2011, 15:52:16

Quote from: ripster;411612

If anyone from Newegg is following this thread...

You Newegg idiots.  I give your Rosewill Logo Zero Eggs.  You can do better than just pulling up an off the shelf font package.

They could have done better by pulling up an off the shelf font package.  Arial^H^H^H^H^HHelvetica would have been an improvement.

Speaking of which, I can't believe that it's taken me until just now to realize that the Filco logo is very similar to the Porsche logo font (but more rounded.)  Maybe that's why I like the Filco logo, it reminds me of products that I associate with quality and enjoyment of use...

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 06 September 2011, 18:20:59

If they had a tenkeyless as well then EK would go out of business for sure.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: hyperq on Tue, 06 September 2011, 21:41:44

Quote from: ripster;411627

Filco SOUNDS like a gas station though.

I concur.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: TexasFlood on Wed, 07 September 2011, 00:06:40

I never really got the Rosewill logo hating.  Won't say I love it but more ambivelent, don't hate it.  Could it be better? Sure, lots of things could but...

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: sordna on Wed, 07 September 2011, 00:26:06

Quote from: N8N;411576

That said, I think it's not so much that the logo is a real deal breaker for me - if I didn't already have too many keyboards it would definitely be under consideration.  It's one of those things like finding a Porsche with an automatic transmission - it's still a great car, but with this one glaring flaw that is going to annoy you every time you get behind the wheel :)

 

Quote from: TexasFlood;411862

I never really got the Rosewill logo hating.  Won't say I love it but more ambivelent, don't hate it.  Could it be better? Sure, lots of things could but...

I agree with TexasFlood. Most of us touch type anyway, and even those who don't, won't stare at the top right corner of the keyboard while hunt and pecking.

N8N your metaphor was exaggerating, having a bad logo is not nearly as bad as having an automatic transmission. You might say it's like having a Porsche with mismatched logo on the steering wheel. It doesn't affect performance, feel, etc. Just the looks of a part you are not looking at while using.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: fluxrez on Wed, 07 September 2011, 00:42:23

I just scratched the logo off with a pocket knife... It looks a little rough... but I rarely shave, so so do I.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: hyperq on Wed, 07 September 2011, 00:46:15

Rosewill's big block of ugly isn't consistent with the minimalist design of the keyboard.  A nice suit doesn't need a flashy logo on the outside, neither does this kind of keyboard.  Leopold's TenKeyless version has no visible logo at all, truly adhering to its design principle:  elegant and clean.  

There is nothing elegant or clean about Rosewill's logo.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 07 September 2011, 06:53:57

Quote from: hyperq;411876

Rosewill's big block of ugly isn't consistent with the minimalist design of the keyboard.  A nice suit doesn't need a flashy logo on the outside, neither does this kind of keyboard.  Leopold's TenKeyless version has no visible logo at all, truly adhering to its design principle:  elegant and clean.  

There is nothing elegant or clean about Rosewill's logo.

Well said.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Wed, 07 September 2011, 08:09:52

In dark red on some of their other products, it's ignorable, which is fine. If you can't afford or come up with a unique and interesting logo to be a focal point, then make it as unintrusive as possible. There is no rule that says you have to have a bigass logo front-and-center on all of your products, so why hurt your sales by slapping a huge ugly logo on an otherwise great product?

I want to do a couple more things and some pricing research before going through the details of removing it safely. For those with auto finish / detail experience, this might come as a "duh" moment. There is no chemical or solvent involved. 100% mechanical removal.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 07 September 2011, 08:14:20

As resident hipster I like rosewill's look. And I will still like it years from now when it will inevitably be "cool".

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: N8N on Wed, 07 September 2011, 08:28:04

Quote from: Oqsy;411968

There is no rule that says you have to have a bigass logo front-and-center on all of your products, so why hurt your sales by slapping a huge ugly logo on an otherwise great product?

That was exactly the point that I was trying to make.

That said, at least the main quibble with the product seems to be the logo, not something functional or fundamental - which is a good thing.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: minhtri on Wed, 07 September 2011, 08:34:14

sorry, can someone ask me, Rosewill use Costar stabilizer or Cherry stabilizer?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 07 September 2011, 08:41:37

Quote from: minhtri;411978

sorry, can someone ask me, Rosewill use Costar stabilizer or Cherry stabilizer?

Minhtri, do the Rosewill keyboards use the Costar or Cherry-style stabilizers?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: N8N on Wed, 07 September 2011, 08:42:01

Costar.  I haven't handled one, but from all the pics I've seen, it's very, very similar to Filco in pretty much all respects.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: minhtri on Wed, 07 September 2011, 08:49:59

Quote from: itlnstln;411981

Minhtri, do the Rosewill keyboards use the Costar or Cherry-style stabilizers?

 
oop, i mistype "answer" and "ask"

they said rosewill is filco rebranded so i think it is Costar stabilizers
but i just want to make sure :D

i got filco red, and i want another at my office but filco red is limited, that makes it is expensive
so i think i will get rosewill red when it comes out

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Wed, 07 September 2011, 10:03:02

Ripster speaks facts. Everyone hide!

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Wed, 07 September 2011, 10:09:27

No dongle, 2 separate cables.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 07 September 2011, 10:34:40

Ooh.  That's special.  Cheap they are not.  Screw a dongle, they just throw the whole cable in.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: N8N on Wed, 07 September 2011, 10:55:40

Quote from: ripster;412004

Other than the case, controller, keys, firmware, pcb and logo it is QUITE similar to the Filcos.

 
I thought that the controller was the same as Filco, did they change that for V2?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: hyperq on Wed, 07 September 2011, 11:07:23

Quote from: ripster;412004

Other than the case, controller, keys, firmware, pcb and logo it is QUITE similar to the Filcos.

Yup, they are not too different after all.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Wed, 07 September 2011, 12:53:01

All proof that filco dun goofed and could have had detachable USB and better keycaps by now :P

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 07 September 2011, 13:21:04

Mine's still bigger.

The keyboard at least.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Wed, 07 September 2011, 16:30:38

Yes. The keyboard. What else would you mean? :P

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: sordna on Wed, 07 September 2011, 17:31:08

Quote from: ripster;412113

Also the most awesome keypuller they throw in the Limited Edition boxes

How does the Filco keypuller compare to the Leopold one? The Leopold puller has better looks, but I have no idea which of the 2 works better in practice. Has anyone tried them both?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 07 September 2011, 17:33:26

Quote from: Oqsy;411968

If you can't afford or come up with a unique and interesting logo to be a focal point, then make it as unintrusive as possible. There is no rule that says you have to have a bigass logo front-and-center on all of your products, so why hurt your sales by slapping a huge ugly logo on an otherwise great product?

What makes you think they didn't spend time/money designing the logo, other than the fact that you don't like it? ;)

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Wed, 07 September 2011, 19:17:27

Quote from: hashbaz;412227

What makes you think they didn't spend time/money designing the logo, other than the fact that you don't like it? ;)

I've seen the Rosewill logo.  After asking that question, I'm assuming you haven't.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: soymilk on Wed, 07 September 2011, 19:41:56

if it was simply "Rosewill" in a normal font like this it would look better than the current one :/

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Wed, 07 September 2011, 20:15:12

Luckily, it comes off

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: crazing on Thu, 08 September 2011, 19:32:02

Quote from: Oqsy;412347

Luckily, it comes off

http://www.scraperite.com/ Amirite?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Thu, 08 September 2011, 20:03:07

no, but that is a very interesting idea.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Thu, 08 September 2011, 20:03:48

(http://www.prosourcecenter.com/catalog/Pinstripe.jpg)

This is my tool of choice.  I will post more later, intended to do a full step by step with pics, but I haven't had time recently, and I don't want to be a **** and leave everyone hanging about how I managed.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: crazing on Thu, 08 September 2011, 20:21:47

Oooooh.  That way looks much more fun.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: N8N on Thu, 08 September 2011, 20:39:21

Is that a pinstripe eraser?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Thu, 08 September 2011, 20:47:21

N8N got it :D  
Yes, a pinstripe eraser.  
For those not familiar, it's a rubber "wheel" on a drill spindle.  You put it in your power drill, and use it to rub away pin stripes, stickers, adhesives, etc.  But it does work in this application.  A word of caution, brace your case well so that it doesn't slide around, and only use the minimum pressure / speed required to get the logo to start coming off.  Too little and you'll just sit there shining the logo, too much, and you'll eat into the plastic (heat as much as friction).  It works, but must be done with caution.  I did not want people snapping their cases or eating into the plastic by using it without a proper primer, but alas, I haven't had time yet for a full "Pinstripe eraser on Rosewill logo for Dummies" article yet.  I'll put it next to my "ALPS restoration" article on top of the geekhack "to do" list.

In other words, YMMV depending on hardness of your specific pinstripe eraser's rubber (should be pretty similar if not identical, but I've only used a couple over the years, they last FOREVER), your drill speed and/or torque, how well secured the case is, and the amount of pressure you apply.  If you've never used one before, PRACTICE on some not precious bit of plastic.  Maybe put a sticker or two on it just to get an idea of how it works.  It won't be exactly the same results as with the "paint" of the case, but it will get you closer and help you understand what works, and what just eats up the plastic before you ruin your case.

*I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DAMAGE OR INJURIES INCURRED BY USING THIS METHOD!*

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: sordna on Thu, 08 September 2011, 21:15:45

Cool! By the way, has anyone tried the Magic Eraser on the Rosewill logo? It reportedly works for de-shining spacebars, but it might be effective here too. Worth a try anyway.

(http://media.mrclean.com/en_US/products/images/mrClean_prod01_img_01.jpg)

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: crazing on Thu, 08 September 2011, 21:21:34

Just to give a sense of how fun/crazy this is, those things aren't bottle cap sized.  They're like, bread plate sized.  Maybe something between a bread plate and a saucer.  (I eat out a lot.)  It's not like a little thing for your Dremel.  It's ham-hock man-sized, and it goes on a real drill, and I'm actually slightly giddy about taking one to a keyboard.  Good show, governor.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Thu, 08 September 2011, 21:33:52

haha right, they're roughly saucer sized...

serious business, but with a soft rubbery aftertaste :D

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: JustCallMeCrash on Fri, 09 September 2011, 10:14:46

I wonder if they would fit on (or have a different version for) a bench grinder.  I would think that'd be a bit easier to control than a drill.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: crazing on Fri, 09 September 2011, 10:36:39

It really is more of an eraser than something gritty, though? It's more heat-and-rubbing, since it's made for like 2000 wpm, as opposed to the elbow grease Magic Eraser. Plus snapping the case off for sandblasting sounds like more work than popping a key off for blasting.  But I could see myself being almost as annoyed with a weird splotchy finish in that spot, as with an ugly logo, so I'd likely end up doing it..  Tho the couple of pics Oqsy's put up didn't seem to have much at all there anymore. I dunno. I'm looking forward to the closeups in his guide.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: sordna on Fri, 09 September 2011, 10:43:58

How about shaprie-ing the logo to make it black, blue, or red ?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: crazing on Fri, 09 September 2011, 11:16:08

Oqsy's making it sound like it's not etched and filled or recessed at all.  Just slathered on top.  So a sharpie job would probably look like a sharpie job, since the edges of the letters would if anything make the sharpie tip slide off, not keep it on track.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: hyperq on Fri, 09 September 2011, 11:29:59

The idea of removing paint from plastic is really bugging me, so I did a little experiment.  

I put a drop of 3-in-one on a plastic luggage tag with a painted logo.  The plastic used in the luggage tag may not be the same plastic used in the Rosewill keyboard, but they certainly look alike.  After soaking it and stirring it for about 10 minutes.  Most of the paint is gone.  3-in-one is all I can find right now, you may get better/worse results with Dot 3 Brake Fluid, WD-40, gasoline, or alcohol.  BTW, 3-in-one smells very close to WD-40.

(http://www.thanettoolsupplies.co.uk/shopimages/products/normal/HOW31LG.jpg)

Please note:
* Test a small drop in a hidden area on you keyboard first!!!  To make sure the agent is safe for your keyboard.
* You may want to remove the top keyboard cover to avoid getting the oil onto keys or LEDs.
* When stirring, use a soft, dull object, such as a Bic pen cap.  I was using the tip of a screw driver, and that scratched the plastic a lot.  Bad idea.
* One drop of 3-in-one can cover about one square inch.  So use sparingly.
* Wipe dry afterwards.  Then wash with dish detergent.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: N8N on Fri, 09 September 2011, 11:31:40

DOT3 is actually a great idea.  I remember using it to strip paint from plastic model cars if I messed up spraying.  Don't have a rosewill to try it on though...

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: fluxrez on Fri, 09 September 2011, 12:14:26

Quote from: ripster;413345

Somebody NKRO test this sucker.  If the controller is new they might have changed something.

Also, DOES the PS/2 dongle come in the box?

(WD-40 does nothing to Filco spooge btw).

NKRO works great.  I held about 60 keys down at once.  The keyboard comes with two sperate cables.  PS/2 and USB.  No dongle.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 09 September 2011, 12:16:23

Ummm, not a complete answer there.  Is that PS/2 or USB?  We'd really like to know both.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: kaiserreich on Fri, 09 September 2011, 12:23:11

Quote from: ripster;412258

The Filco wire portion is longer, allowing you to hold more keys at one time.  I can get four keys instead of just three at a time.   Important when key pulling.

OK, not THAT important but Richard Gere appreciates the extra reach when pulling Gerbils.
(Attachment) 26087[/ATTACH]

I prefer the Leopold keypuller.
Who needs to hold more keys when the keys just fall out after every key pull

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: minhtri on Fri, 09 September 2011, 12:34:09

when will new rosewill be availabe ?
GK's wiki said "winter 2011" so it is Oct, Nov and Dec ?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: fluxrez on Fri, 09 September 2011, 12:57:50

Quote from: minhtri;413363

when will new rosewill be availabe ?
GK's wiki said "winter 2011" so it is Oct, Nov and Dec ?

The "new" features are already available.  I think that's just the switches other than blue.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: minhtri on Fri, 09 September 2011, 13:06:37

Quote from: ripster;413372

What's GK?

Oh GEEKHACK!  I said Winter.  Although I may have 99% track record in my 2011 Keyboard Predictions (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?13347-What-Are-Your-2011-Keyboard-Predictions&p=407890&viewfull=1#post407890) I am NOT the Keyboard Oracle.

sorry to piss you off

GEEKHACK

Quote from: fluxrez;413373

The "new" features are already available.  I think that's just the switches other than blue.

yes, i care about red. rosewill red is absolutely cheaper than filco red.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: keyboardlover on Fri, 09 September 2011, 13:08:29

Ping!

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: hcry4 on Fri, 09 September 2011, 13:10:27

Quote from: ripster;413381

I only get pissed when people say TKL.

Why do people keep talking about The Keyboard Lover?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Fri, 09 September 2011, 13:20:05

I prefer TKL to TLK.  I"ve seen that more than once, and repeated several times throughout the threads, so it's not just a typo.  TenLessKeys?

The wheel IS abrasive, lest it wouldn't work at all.  But, it's gently abrasive, such that it does NOT scratch automotive finish at all, yet removes stuff stuck to it or on top.  Uncured paint (ie accidents, oversprays, etc) can *often*, but not always, be removed with a pinstripe wheel if you move quickly and know your stuff.  If the solvent in the paint starts to eat into your factory finish tho, you're just wasting time.

Wrong topic.  Rosewill.  Magic Eraser will work eventually, but it shines the snot out of the case (I tried it on the Lock labels last night, had to equally shine the rest of the case to get it uniform, mistake.)  So, as long as you don't mind your case looking like a Das Keyboard, go for it.  Otherwise you'll have to sandblast after the fact to get it back to the more "satin" factory texture.  It seems that is going to have to be my next step, since I was too bold with Mr. Clean's texture eraser.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Fri, 09 September 2011, 13:21:33

I wish I had about 5 more Rosewill cases to practice and perfect the method.  Alas, I'll just have to live with my shiny otaku case.

Perhaps I'll consider a Rosewill Logo removal service at some point in the future, after I acquire a decent sandblasting setup.  Another thing to consider as the first step is soda blasting.  Used in auto body to remove paint without affecting the texture of underlying surface (so that you can knock paint off a panel without pitting or marring the hell out of it to the point that you make it more work to get it back to a paintable state again).  This works amazingly well on auto body panels, but requires equipment that can handle the fine baking soda and respirator, etc are a MUST, even if your working area is "enclosed"  It won't be airtight, and the large amount of very fine suspended baking soda dust will choke you out, ahem, "like a boss".

Anyway, I've never heard of anyone using it on plastic, and don't know that it would work at all in this scenario, but might be worth a shot.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: crazing on Fri, 09 September 2011, 13:44:56

But, that's not to say you feel like you have to blast after the wheel?  Or is it?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: daerid on Fri, 09 September 2011, 14:30:29

I'm really interested in the price. I need a 104 board for Mac, and would prefer brown switches, for cheap.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Fri, 09 September 2011, 14:39:16

No. Its the magic eraser that fscked the texture. The wheel did not, BUT it CAN. USE CAUTION. PRACTICE!

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: drsauced on Mon, 12 September 2011, 18:10:19

6KRO, on the rollover.geekhack.org tester.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: minhtri on Mon, 12 September 2011, 21:55:55

According to their marketing manager, new series will be available in Oct

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Warduke on Mon, 12 September 2011, 22:53:21

At Newegg it says: OUT OF STOCK. ETA: 09/19/2011.    

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Keyboards-_-Rosewill-_-23201040

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Tue, 13 September 2011, 10:01:59

Viva la Rosewill!

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: caughtjoo on Mon, 19 September 2011, 19:28:26

The blues just came back in stock at 92.86$.  Would this be a solid intro mechanical board?

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: keyboardlover on Mon, 19 September 2011, 19:30:54

Quote from: caughtjoo;418833

The blues just came back in stock at 92.86$.  Would this be a solid intro mechanical board?

Yes, definitely. And thanks for the heads up!

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: duncan on Mon, 19 September 2011, 19:53:32

Quote from: Oqsy;412309

I've seen the Rosewill logo.  After asking that question, I'm assuming you haven't.

+1

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: alaricljs on Mon, 19 September 2011, 20:49:03

BTW - NewEgg has an ongoing promo code til the 21st for 15% off Rosewill KBs:   EMCKAJE228

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Mon, 19 September 2011, 21:16:01

Buy buy buy!

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Warduke on Mon, 19 September 2011, 22:52:17

Dammit, still not in stock at Newegg.ca

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: sg1717 on Mon, 19 September 2011, 22:55:51

In for 1 as my first cherry mx board... can't wait for the corsiar boards to come out!

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Warduke on Tue, 20 September 2011, 21:10:23

Quote from: Warduke;418922

Dammit, still not in stock at Newegg.ca

Now they're in stock.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Battou62 on Wed, 21 September 2011, 12:56:13

I got an email from Rosewill customer support stating that the Cherry Black version should be available in late October or early November.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Thu, 22 September 2011, 07:03:30

Quote from: Battou62;419603

I got an email from Rosewill customer support stating that the Cherry Black version should be available in late October or early November.

Good news. I expect the other flavors will be around the same time.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: dumpring on Wed, 09 November 2011, 17:33:36

Anyone try the 3in1 method on their logo yet? Just picked up a cherry red and threw some mcmasterr silicone o-rings on, keyboard's a dream except for this damn eye sore of a logo. Not too keen on ruining the plastic with abrasives, wondering if anyone has had luck using some kind of solvent.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: ITzNybble on Thu, 10 November 2011, 07:54:23

Quote from: Gerk;404925

Sounds like a baseball team.  I don't much care for reds either, or at least the couple of setups I've tried with them to date.  I'm a confirmed blue's fan.

Now I have never tried anything except monterey blues and cherry blues, but I just love the clicky!

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: laffindude on Thu, 10 November 2011, 08:16:21

Quote from: dumpring;448818

Anyone try the 3in1 method on their logo yet? Just picked up a cherry red and threw some mcmasterr silicone o-rings on, keyboard's a dream except for this damn eye sore of a logo. Not too keen on ruining the plastic with abrasives, wondering if anyone has had luck using some kind of solvent.

I've used magic eraser to remove painted on logos before. It is a very mild abrasive.

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: Oqsy on Thu, 10 November 2011, 17:35:57

Ripster speaks truth, I am the Stevie Wonder of geekhack.  The rubber pinstripe eraser tricked worked as well as I could see.  My mistake was experimenting with other methods to get rid of the lock labels.  THAT didn't go well.  My case needs a good sand and polish now, or maybe Ripster of the Healthy Eyes would be willing to spot me a case sandblasting in exchange for a yet unnamed reciprocation. ;)

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: WhiskeyHero on Fri, 11 November 2011, 00:36:11

I ordered one with browns a few days ago.....should be here in 12hrs or so. I am trying to resist the urge to drop another 60 on caps but we'll see how the stock ones look. I've been checking out a few cherry pos boards to salvage some doubleshots.

This is actually going to be the first mechanical keyboard of my own....my friend stole his keyboard back from me D:

Title: Any update on the new Rosewill keyboards ?
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 11 November 2011, 00:49:30

No need to salvage 2-shots, there are two sources selling cheap sets right right now:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23747-Cherry-Double-shot-keycaps-Cherry-Stems-IBM-Model-M
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23218-ORDER-THREAD-25-Used-Cherry-Doubleshots-Round-2