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Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Thu, 25 August 2011, 08:09:15
Hello guys !

I just did my order, I take a Noppoo Choc Mini Mx red ... :)
I hope it's a good keyboard ...

But someone, on another forum, tell me that the KBC Poker Mx red is a better keyboard...
The spacebar key is really so bad on the noppoo ?

Which one is the best for you ? Noppoo Choc mini mx red or poker Mx red ?
Just want to know what you thinking about these keyboards ... :)

Thanks guys !
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 25 August 2011, 08:21:35
ok
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Thu, 25 August 2011, 08:28:02
My question is so stupid ? :)
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: peda on Thu, 25 August 2011, 09:01:28
Quote from: ilyama;404820
My question is so stupid ? :)

I think I also can read noodles mind by saying that we don't really understand your question. Or is it a question or just a statement?

Please reread and structure your post to get some answers (if you want any).



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Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Thu, 25 August 2011, 09:19:08
I think it's more simple now

Sorry guys ... My english is bad :)
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 25 August 2011, 09:30:27
yes it is
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: fossala on Thu, 25 August 2011, 09:49:51
That's a bit harsh guys, it's obvious what he is trying to convey is what is better the poker or the choc. As he said, he ordered the choc but heard on another forum that the poker was better and wanted to know your guys opinion.

OP: sorry I haven't used either.
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Thu, 25 August 2011, 09:50:15
Answer for the "bad spacebar key on noppoo ?"
Or for my bad english ? :)
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Thu, 25 August 2011, 09:51:27
Yes I edit the thread so it's my fault ...

I'm just worried about this spacebar on the noppoo because on FPS games, it's very important lol :)
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: fossala on Thu, 25 August 2011, 09:53:18
Your English isn't great but good enough to understand. I have no idea why the other guys cannot understand your question. And the fact that peda doesn't know if they were questions even with you using correct punctuation makes me think he may of failed 2nd grade.
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 25 August 2011, 10:01:14
why dont you guys get a room?
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Thu, 25 August 2011, 10:01:40
I edit the post so it wasn't really clear at the beginning...
We can forget that ...

Between Poker mx red and Noppoo mx red who's the winner for you ?
And why ?

Thanks guys and sorry again for my english (I'm from Belgium)
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: csm725 on Thu, 25 August 2011, 10:09:14
Forget the n00bs that act like that. It's the fact they're jealous of ripster.

The Poker is a great board but if you need the F keys easily accessible or dedicated arrow keys, go Noppoo.
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 25 August 2011, 10:25:01
Quote from: csm725;404866
Forget the n00bs that act like that. It's the fact they're jealous of ripster.

The Poker is a great board but if you need the F keys easily accessible or dedicated arrow keys, go Noppoo.

uhoh, here comes the spammer
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 25 August 2011, 10:29:17
That guy thought cherry stabilizers were cherry blacks (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?21352-Leopold-FC500R-Cherry-MX-Red&p=404793&viewfull=1#post404793).

Lol.
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 25 August 2011, 10:30:24
Quote from: keyboardlover;404873
That guy thought cherry stabilizers were cherry blacks.

Lol.

lulz, that doesn't even make sense...
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: Orphagn on Thu, 25 August 2011, 10:31:53
Both are great keyboards.
Choc Mini is a great all around keyboard.
Poke is good for minimalist and portability.
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: sordna on Thu, 25 August 2011, 10:33:30
The Noppoo is a fine board, it has a metal plate (much more solid than the Poker) and dedicated function and arrow keys. However the keycaps' lettering wears off easily, and it's not Mac compatible. For Windows/Linux it works fine (however on Linux the Caps Lock light doesn't turn on from what I read, but you do get the capital letters). I think for gaming the Noppoo is better than the Poker.
The Poker is lighter and more portable, has a detachable cable, and works fine with the Apple Mac.
I wouldn't say one is necessarily better than the other, it depends on your needs/preferences.
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Thu, 25 August 2011, 10:40:22
The keyboard will always stay on my desk ...
It's for gaming on a pc ...
I also wanted the most complete layout possible ...

So for the moment, the noppoo is a good choice I think...

What's the issue with the spacebar key of the noppoo ?

And thanks Sordna that's exactly the kind of answer I expected ...
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: Arcanius on Thu, 25 August 2011, 10:58:27
I haven't heard of this spacebar issue. If anything, the Poker's spacebar will feel worse because of the Cherry Stabilizers. It's likely that somebody had a problem with one board, and it's not a problem on all Noppoo boards. I've heard good things about the Noppoo, more so than the Poker. You'll likely be happy with your purchase. :)
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Thu, 25 August 2011, 11:05:43
Ok, thanks ... So, in fact, there is a little spacebar issue for ... the Poker ... :)

A last thing, I could easily remove the keys on the noppoo mini?
I bought Red Esc and Red WASD ... :)
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: peda on Thu, 25 August 2011, 12:37:52
I have a Noppoo Choc Mini with red switches and i find it really good beside of the linux issue with the caps lock light (as sordna stated already). The only other issue (which can easily be fixed) is a bit rattling of the spacebar when you touch it on the right hand side.

For my personal taste (and requirements), the poker is too much of minimalism.

@fossala: it was not meant to be offensively what i wrote. After re-reading it i can understand that i might came across wrongly. I can ensure you that it was not meant like this. I asked ilyama to rewrite it as i wanted the community and myself to fully understand the questions and therefore be able to provide proper answers.
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: peda on Thu, 25 August 2011, 12:38:26
Quote from: ilyama;404901
A last thing, I could easily remove the keys on the noppoo mini?
I bought Red Esc and Red WASD ... :)

Yes, no problem! :)

for gaming i would also recommend the noppoo because of the "fuller" layout and dedicated F-keys.
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:10:54
Ok guys, I wanted your opinions on this and I have it ! :)

I make the good choice with the noppoo ;)

'The only other issue (which can easily be fixed) is a bit rattling of the spacebar when you touch it on the right hand side.'

So on FPS games it will not be an issue if it"s on the right hand side... :)
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:25:46
k bai
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: peda on Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:31:11
Quote from: ilyama;404986
Ok guys, I wanted your opinions on this and I have it ! :)

I make the good choice with the noppoo ;)

'The only other issue (which can easily be fixed) is a bit rattling of the spacebar when you touch it on the right hand side.'

So on FPS games it will not be an issue if it"s on the right hand side... :)

it can easily be that this rattling is only on my board and not a general issue. It doesnt effect the functionality and can only be heard if you touch the spacebar gently on the right hand side. So it not an issue while being in normal use.
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: sordna on Thu, 25 August 2011, 13:32:56
Rattling is a non-issue, it happens even to much more expensive keyboards, just remove the key and put some grease on the stabilizer.
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: peda on Thu, 25 August 2011, 14:21:51
Quote from: sordna;405015
Rattling is a non-issue, it happens even to much more expensive keyboards, just remove the key and put some grease on the stabilizer.

<= this
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Thu, 25 August 2011, 19:34:43
Thanks for the help !
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Fri, 26 August 2011, 04:33:18
I just received my keyboard ... ! Very nice !
A little bit higher for my wrist , I think I'm gonna buy a wrist rest...

Is there mini wrist rest ?

And I think I've got the same problem with the space bar than peda ...
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: jpm804 on Fri, 26 August 2011, 04:49:20
Quote from: ilyama;405372
I just received my keyboard ... ! Very nice !
A little bit higher for my wrist , I think I'm gonna buy a wrist rest...

Is there mini wrist rest ?

And I think I've got the same problem with the space bar than peda ...


Ducky and Filco make a tenkeyless size wrist rest that almost work for the Noppo..

Here is the noppoo with the ducky one:

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc467/jpm804/Keyboard%20Stuff/DPP_0049.jpg)
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Fri, 26 August 2011, 05:22:42
Thanks !!!

In fact, I've got 2 choices on qtan ebay shop ...
I want ducky because Filco wrist rests are very expensive for me ...

But I can't find the measurments (particulary the length) of thoses Ducky wrist rests ...
I know it's the only thing different...

http://cgi.befr.ebay.be/Ducky-Long-short-keyboard-wrist-rest-black-color-/300578050558?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item45fbd911fe#ht_2289wt_755

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ducky-Long-short-keyboard-wrist-rest-black-color-/300578050558?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item45fbd911fe#ht_2223wt_902

Do you know the length of those wrist rests ? I'm going to buy the second one ...

jpm804, on your picture it's the first one or the second one ?

Thanks !
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Fri, 26 August 2011, 09:47:49
Another thing, I received WASD purple but they are more high than Noppoo WASD caps ...
Is there custom caps with the same height than noppoo caps ?

Or it's normal to have this ?

Thanks
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: noodles256 on Fri, 26 August 2011, 09:48:31
still here?
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Fri, 26 August 2011, 12:40:34
Why do you answer me every time for nothing ? Are you bored ?
If you don't care , I understand but don't answer me and don't read me please ;)

Thanks ;)
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: noodles256 on Fri, 26 August 2011, 12:49:31
Quote from: ilyama;405538
Why do you answer me every time for nothing ? Are you bored ?
If you don't care , I understand but don't answer me and don't read me please ;)

Thanks ;)


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Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: Chobopants on Fri, 26 August 2011, 13:19:55
Quote from: ilyama;405538
Why do you answer me every time for nothing ? Are you bored ?
If you don't care , I understand but don't answer me and don't read me please ;)

Thanks ;)

Ignore noodles, I honestly don't know what his problem is but he sure is being a **** in this thread.

Grats on the board man!
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: noodles256 on Fri, 26 August 2011, 15:04:31
if i am being a ****, I don't want to see myself being an *******
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: Arcanius on Fri, 26 August 2011, 15:16:23
Quote from: ripster;405548
Lol.

Here's the answer to the Purple WASD thing:  Just press firmly until it seats level with the other keys. Just tap it hard, like it's Noodles reaching for the soap in my prison.


It's an optical illusion if it still looks off. (http://www.overclock.net/11412158-post33.html)

That's not true. The Noppoo caps are a lower profile than the filco ones, so the purple WASD won't fit perfectly!
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: ilyama on Sun, 28 August 2011, 04:38:59
Indeed, it doesn't fit for me ... They are higher than noppoo caps ...
Title: Noppoo Choc Mini Mx Red vs. KBC Poker Mx Red ?
Post by: Arcanius on Sun, 28 August 2011, 11:52:35
That's how it's going to be. The only thing you could do is buy a set of keycaps from WASDkeyboards, but the spacebar won't fit, and you won't be able to find keys to replace the 1.5x sized Alt and Ctrl (unless you use a row 4 keycap, as for Tab), and right shift will have to be a caps-lock key, which won't match the row profile exactly.