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Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: himynameisbunny on Tue, 30 August 2011, 18:41:56
Look what I got in my E-Mail this morning...

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"Silent" keys and the body is matte black.

I wonder whether or not they're Browns or Blacks?

inb4 Razer bashing, I have a BWU and couldn't be happier with it. Feels more quality than the Leopold that I bought for a client last week *hides* (http://"http://www.spreadrazer.com/edm/storefront/bws/index_au.html?utm_source=RazerStore&utm_campaign=BWUS&utm_medium=edm_AU[/URL)
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: Atenacius on Tue, 30 August 2011, 18:43:07
Jinx! They're browns since they're still tactile
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: nolo on Tue, 30 August 2011, 18:48:54
Quote from: himynameisbunny;407716
Reckon they're browns or blacks?

Hi, browns! Plz have a look here ....

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Q. What type of mechanical key switch do the Razer BlackWidow mechanical gaming keyboards use?
A. The Razer BlackWidow Stealth edition keyboards use the tactile Cherry MX Brown mechanical key switches, while the Razer BlackWidow keyboards use tactile and clicky Cherry MX Blue mechanical key switches.

Source (http://www.razerzone.com/minisite/blackwidow/faq)
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: noodles256 on Tue, 30 August 2011, 19:08:43
inb4 OP uses search function
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: Brodie337 on Tue, 30 August 2011, 19:15:29
The article up on Neowin seems to suggest it's got 6KRO.

http://www.neowin.net/news/razer-launches-new-versions-of-blackwidow-keyboard

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Razer says, "This is an improvement over the traditional anti-ghosting matrix when it allows up to 6 simultaneous key presses anywhere on the keyset so your orchestra of destruction is executed in its entirety."

Yo dawg i herd you liek quotes?

And lol at the comment:
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I like the clicking of my original blackwidow, but I do want the other features. I'm pretty sure I'll just buy a non-razer mechanical keyboard soon. Not to mention Razer's faulty wiring on the original blackwidow. Holding left-shift while typing certain words would result in the words becoming jumbled. Razer support admitted to me that this was a wiring problem and sent me stickers, decals, temporary tattoos and a lanyard .... -.- That experience aside, I would totally buy a new model BlackWidow if it didn't have quieter keypresses.


Has anyone here experienced this?
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: himynameisbunny on Tue, 30 August 2011, 19:36:42
I was in class, just thought I'd post the link.

Was pretty sure they were going to be Browns considering the originals were Blues, but considering every other VIDYA GAEMER boards are Blacks...
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: Arcanius on Tue, 30 August 2011, 19:40:53
If the Neowin article is right, that'll be another technological advancement made by Razer! It only took them 4 years of research and what, 30 years of designing? The PC keyboard with NKRO was released in August 1981, how fitting!
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: Atenacius on Tue, 30 August 2011, 20:31:00
I wonder how long it will take them to discover linear switches and a new type of finish. 'Sandpaper Finish' with 'Smooth Linearity'!
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: strerror on Tue, 30 August 2011, 20:38:25
agreed the marketing is a load of bs, but really guys, get over it, it's fairly common in this day and age to overstate things for marketting. How about focusing on the actual product? I'm in the market for a brown kb, and was very close to pulling the trigger on a leopold TK, now I'm considering this and would be curious to see a decent review.
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: Arcanius on Tue, 30 August 2011, 20:44:08
Well the build quality will be worse than a Leopold. I've used my friend's Blackwidow for a good few hours, and just got a Leopold today, and the build quality is much nicer on the Leo. The plastic feels better, and the keycaps are not only prettier, but thicker and don't move as much on the stems. It's also a lot more simplistic, looks better IMO.
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: strerror on Tue, 30 August 2011, 20:59:06
Quote from: Arcanius;407769
Well the build quality will be worse than a Leopold. I've used my friend's Blackwidow for a good few hours, and just got a Leopold today, and the build quality is much nicer on the Leo. The plastic feels better, and the keycaps are not only prettier, but thicker and don't move as much on the stems. It's also a lot more simplistic, looks better IMO.

while I appreciate your thoughts with all due respect that's an assumption. I've got a current BW and I'm very happy with it, but one of the things that struck me about this new version is that it is made from a different plastic. Also exactly how would you rate the build quality higher? On my existing BW I'd rate it HIGHER build quality then my das for example, and I can't really feel / see any flaws in it at all. I understand from reading around that they can be a bit variable, but in the BW's I've used I've not had a single problem at all. I guess I'll have to wait till people who actually have the new BW give some feedback!
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: Aero on Tue, 30 August 2011, 21:00:02
Atleast its "sleeke matte finish" now unlike the current one with the shiny finish.
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: strerror on Tue, 30 August 2011, 21:14:26
Quote from: Aero;407774
Atleast its "sleeke matte finish" now unlike the current one with the shiny finish.
exactly what caught my eye, and why comparing it to the existing BW in terms of feel might be misleading.
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: Arcanius on Tue, 30 August 2011, 22:04:55
Quote from: strerror;407773
while I appreciate your thoughts with all due respect that's an assumption.

Of course, I was talking about the Blackwidow with blues, one that's 6 months old by now, so of course I can't speak for the new ninja. I hope that they do improve their build quality, but I don't see any reason they would, since the BWs seem to be selling just fine, few casual gamers that walk into Future shop have heard of a filco.
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: BaconKnight on Tue, 30 August 2011, 22:38:23
My friend bought a Razer BW with blues. I tried it out. It's fine for what it is, if you can get it at a deal, it's not a bad keyboard. But no way would I say it's build quality is higher than a Leopold. Leo keycaps were thicker, less plasticky feeling. Even the little things like the keyboard feet, they just feel higher quality on the Leo. The board in general felt less "solid" as the fullsize BW was lighter and flexed more than the tenkeyless Leo. Then there's little things that just bother me personally. Like the font they use for the keys. And BW was sleek finish which I don't like, too much fingerprints. I asked my friend to try out and compare my Leo for a bit and he agreed with all my points.

Again, not saying BW is a poor keyboard, I'm not trying to **** on it. It's a good keyboard for the price. Leo with shipping would come out to around $130, you can find BWs on sale at frys for $80 sometimes, so I'd expect there to be a quality difference.
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: strerror on Tue, 30 August 2011, 23:02:38
Quote from: Arcanius;407806
Of course, I was talking about the Blackwidow with blues, one that's 6 months old by now, so of course I can't speak for the new ninja. I hope that they do improve their build quality, but I don't see any reason they would, since the BWs seem to be selling just fine, few casual gamers that walk into Future shop have heard of a filco.

you said WILL BE, that implied to me that you were talking about the newer version.
Title: Blackwidow Stealth - Silent Keys?
Post by: strerror on Tue, 30 August 2011, 23:07:39
Quote from: BaconKnight;407820
My friend bought a Razer BW with blues. I tried it out. It's fine for what it is, if you can get it at a deal, it's not a bad keyboard. But no way would I say it's build quality is higher than a Leopold. Leo keycaps were thicker, less plasticky feeling. Even the little things like the keyboard feet, they just feel higher quality on the Leo. The board in general felt less "solid" as the fullsize BW was lighter and flexed more than the tenkeyless Leo. Then there's little things that just bother me personally. Like the font they use for the keys. And BW was sleek finish which I don't like, too much fingerprints. I asked my friend to try out and compare my Leo for a bit and he agreed with all my points.

Again, not saying BW is a poor keyboard, I'm not trying to **** on it. It's a good keyboard for the price. Leo with shipping would come out to around $130, you can find BWs on sale at frys for $80 sometimes, so I'd expect there to be a quality difference.
thanks for this, you've hit most of my concerns in this post (though I'm not a fan of the lights on the capslock / scroll). The leopold I suspect will have a slightly more solid feel then the upcoming BW, however, while I agree with your other points (bad fonts, and better feet) they are not major for me (touch type, would prefer otaku for all my kb's!). What is a bit more important to me, as this kb will be primarily used for gaming (and unix work), is that I can use some macro's easily (still reading up about autohotkey, looks ok but not sure if it'll work with the games I play). I don't have or even use a ten keyless KB, but I'm very tempted to grab the leopold. Shame I can't easily get them otaku, and with some WASD keys thrown in.