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Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: cactux on Fri, 02 September 2011, 07:06:02
What is the most wanted collectible keyboard out there beside the IBM M15 and MX5000. Please do not even think about the HHKB, RF, FILCOS, and friends
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  • OTD 356 SERIES -> RiGS, reaper, Index, calavera, Lpb45 (5)
  • uTron (http://www.plundertech.com/utron-keyboard/) -> cactux,itlnstln (2)
  • IBM SSK Industrial Mini -> ripster(1)
  • Space Cadet keyboard  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard)-> Daniel Beaver(1)
  •  Optimus Maximus (http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9836/) -> Playtrumpet(1)
  •  Sega HTR-2106 (http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=62) ->  Izza (1)  
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 02 September 2011, 07:10:49
uTron maybe.  It's not really rare just expensive.  Datahands and Fingerworks 'boards come to mind, too.
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: cactux on Fri, 02 September 2011, 07:14:15
Quote from: itlnstln;409250
uTron maybe.  It's not really rare just expensive.  Datahands and Fingerworks 'boards come to mind, too.
I have not been able to locate a uTron yet (its layout sucks big time). Datahand is in production , agree is expensive but is not one of the most wanted
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Post by: RiGS on Fri, 02 September 2011, 07:42:59
I think the otd 356 series.
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Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 02 September 2011, 08:05:35
Quote from: RiGS;409261
I think the otd 356 series.

Good call.  The Korean custom 'boards are hot.

I wish the Typenow Solid were a little better (cap-wise) and cheaper.  It's about the closest thing, off-the-shelf, to the OTD 'boards.
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Post by: RiGS on Fri, 02 September 2011, 08:07:41
I still think the Typenow solid has a better more refined case design than the otd cheat.
Btw replacing the stock keycaps is a no brainer at this premium price range.
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Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 02 September 2011, 08:15:03
True that.  For $400, though, it should be programmable, come with better caps, or something.  As it stands, it almost seems like a Leopold in a nice, aluminium case.
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Post by: cactux on Fri, 02 September 2011, 08:23:09
Quote from: itlnstln;409274
True that.  For $400, though, it should be programmable, come with better caps, or something.  As it stands, it almost seems like a Leopold in a nice, aluminium case.
agree, to expensive for nothing more than nice aluminium case. Such price is due to low volume as well
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Post by: RiGS on Fri, 02 September 2011, 08:27:06
That Leopold controller works and it is awesome. It has 17KRO over USB. Sure better than anything out there.
Why do you want something unreliable?
You can create custom scripts with autohotkey just as fine.
Also mmmty said the aluminium plate felt amazing.
The Steelseries and the Leopold use the same pcb material, and it feels great, and easy to do solder jobs on it.
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Post by: HaveANiceDay on Fri, 02 September 2011, 08:51:28
Clearly the Phantom.
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Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 02 September 2011, 08:52:44
I've never seen the Phantom.

Wait...

EDIT:  I was thinking of another Phantom (http://www.amazon.com/Phantom-Lapboard-Wireless-Keyboard-Internet/dp/B00492C1DY), and in fact, it does exist and ruins my whole joke.  Well **** me.
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Post by: cactux on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:03:59
Quote from: HaveANiceDay;409286
Clearly the Phantom.
Maybe over time, but not now :-)
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:05:46
I was thinking of the gaming system that went all vaporware. But I could be wrong about the name.


Alps buckling spring?
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:09:52
Quote from: False_Dmitry_II;409296
I was thinking of the gaming system that went all vaporware. But I could be wrong about the name.

You got it right.  See my post above.  The only thing that came out of the Phantom (Gaming System) was the Lapboard.
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Post by: Daniel Beaver on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:15:23
The IBM M15 was the obvious choice... why eliminate that?

Maybe the space cadet keyboard is a runner up?
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Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:16:12
How about a Beam Spring keyboard that works on modern PCs?
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Post by: cactux on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:18:55
Quote from: itlnstln;409300
You got it right.  See my post above.  The only thing that came out of the Phantom (Gaming System) was the Lapboard.
Is this the one ? (http://www.phantom.net/products.html)
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Post by: cactux on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:22:52
Quote from: Daniel Beaver;409306
The IBM M15 was the obvious choice... why eliminate that?
because I owned it already ;-)

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Maybe the space cadet keyboard is a runner up?
???
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Post by: cactux on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:25:14
Quote from: cactux;409311
Is this the one ? (http://www.phantom.net/products.html)
Quote from: Daniel Beaver;409306
The IBM M15 was the obvious choice... why eliminate that?
because I owned it already ;-)

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Maybe the space cadet keyboard is a runner up?
???
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:27:08
Quote from: cactux;409311
Is this the one ? (http://www.phantom.net/products.html)

Sho' 'Nuff.

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Post by: reaper on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:30:17
Quote from: RiGS;409261
I think the otd 356 series.

I'd have to agree with RIGS here.  Love to get my hands on one even though the chances are slim.
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: Playtrumpet on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:36:02
No one wants an Optimus Maximus?

Meh. My most wanted keyboard right now would be one of those uber expensive Steno machines (the new flat ones). I'll find a link later.
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: cactux on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:42:56
Quote from: Playtrumpet;409324
No one wants an Optimus Maximus?

Meh. My most wanted keyboard right now would be one of those uber expensive Steno machines (the new flat ones). I'll find a link later.
For sure is very expensive , but is not a mechanical board. BTW this is the link (http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9836/)
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Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:46:12
Quote from: cactux;409332
For sure is very expensive , but is not a mechanical board. BTW this is the link (http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/9836/)

It is mechanical.  It uses Cherry MLs.
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: cactux on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:48:01
Quote from: itlnstln;409336
It is mechanical.  It uses Cherry MLs.
I thought the it uses rubber dome
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 02 September 2011, 09:53:50
It doesn't say it on this page (http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/faq/), explicitly, but the caps are pretty obvious.

Well, there this on the same page:
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Tactile sensations are good: we use mechanical micro-keyswitches with a key travel of 2.5 mm. The activation force is, if you are interested, 50 ± 20 g.
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 02 September 2011, 10:14:06
Quote from: Playtrumpet;409324
No one wants an Optimus Maximus?


When I saw the project it the first time (an era ago) it was my dream, but the price is is really exaggerated, if only the price was around 400/500$ as promised initially...

Think to all the possibilities, like a keyboard virus :becky:
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 02 September 2011, 10:15:01
Quote from: ripster;409343
I can prove it and give you Veronica Belmont's boobs at the same time.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uydih.gif)


Interested?

I'll only post if Geekhackers request it. I'm tired of always being called off topic.


Wobbly !!!

what kind of stabilizer she use ? :lol:
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Post by: mmmty on Fri, 02 September 2011, 10:26:24
Quote from: ripster;409343
I can prove it and give you Veronica Belmont's boobs at the same time.
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/uydih.gif)


Interested?

I'll only post if Geekhackers request it. I'm tired of always being called off topic.

Man! I need to get back into Tekzilla. What was she saying? "Check out my boobs"? "Do you like it when I shake my boobs"? "No bras day"?
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 02 September 2011, 10:28:53
Quote from: mmmty;409366
Man! I need to get back into Tekzilla. What was she saying? "Check out my boobs"? "Do you like it when I shake my boobs"? "No bras day"?


[video=youtube;AaqflBgUwcM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaqflBgUwcM[/video]
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: the_buff on Fri, 02 September 2011, 10:29:30
He pulls the key cap at 4:50 in the video.

I don't know about all these obscure keyboards, but I've been looking for a G80-1800 ANSI layout that has the windows keys. I've turned up nothing so far.  I can only imagine how hard it would be to get your hands on something in your list.
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Post by: Daniel Beaver on Fri, 02 September 2011, 10:38:18
Nope, it is now the "Veronica Belmont's boobs" thread.
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Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 02 September 2011, 10:41:45
Quote from: ripster;409379
Everybody has them.  What's the big deal?


Quote from: the_buff;409372
I can only imagine how hard it would be to get your hands on something in your list.


hehe
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Post by: Index on Fri, 02 September 2011, 10:45:23
OTD 356 Series for me.

However, once I'm done with my Keyboard Project, I don't think I would care for those anymore.
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Post by: calavera on Fri, 02 September 2011, 10:56:32
OTD 356 of course.
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Post by: mmmty on Fri, 02 September 2011, 11:12:18
Back to the more interesting topic. I've noticed that, on Tekzilla, Veronica's boobs are up & down as in sometimes big, sometimes not so much. What's the deal with that?
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 02 September 2011, 11:22:44
Quote from: mmmty;409393
Back to the more interesting topic. I've noticed that, on Tekzilla, Veronica's boobs are up & down as in sometimes big, sometimes not so much. What's the deal with that?


Industrial secrets.

The same happened to T'pol form the Entrprise series

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Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: Lpb45 on Fri, 02 September 2011, 11:34:25
OTD 356 / The Cheat .
Title: what is the most wanted keyboard?
Post by: HaaTa on Fri, 02 September 2011, 11:49:13
Well, for me:

Something with Fujitsu Leaf Springs: http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/fujitsuten.htm (http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/fujitsuten.htm)
An actual keyboard with Reed Switches (I have some switches already though): http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/N860-9201.htm (http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/N860-9201.htm)
Oki Data Keyboard: http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/OKI2260.htm (http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/OKI2260.htm)
SMK Switches of this type: http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/pcy333.htm (http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/pcy333.htm)
Doubtful that I'll find one, but TKC switches: http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/gold.htm (http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/gold.htm)
Maybe some Ortek switches: http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/ortek.htm (http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/ortek.htm)
Old NEC switches: http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/pc8001.htm (http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~hisao/image/pc8001.htm)

Oh, and a DataHand.
I did want a uTron, but already have one.
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Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 02 September 2011, 12:00:54
I want a Datahand.  I just don't know if I would want to part with the cash for one.
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Post by: Izza on Fri, 02 September 2011, 12:01:19
Sega HTR-2106
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Post by: Playtrumpet on Fri, 02 September 2011, 12:18:02
Oh, I wasn't looking for a picture of the optimus. I was looking for the steno machine - LIGHTSPEED

(http://www.stenovations.com/lightspeed/LSS.jpg)

It's a slick, compact steno machine with amazing keys (people put pads on them to their liking) where you can adjust sensitivity so finely that you really COULD breath on them and they would be actuated/recognized. I know people who aren't interested in Steno probably don't find the keyboard/machine all that amazing, and I myself don't know Steno (the real theory by the way - all chording and extensive dictionary/steno translation software with personal programmed briefs, not what the majority of transcribers use but court reporters and CAT real-time transcribers).

Anyway, THAT is my dream "keyboard." Anyone have $3,000 I could borrow?
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Post by: pagonda on Fri, 02 September 2011, 13:10:18
I REALLY want a filco tenkeyless, but I just spent a ton of cash on new speakers/speaker stands for my computer and I'm a student that only has access to Amazon or storeswithin biking distance, and filcos have been out of stock on amazon, so... :(
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Post by: TacticalCoder on Fri, 02 September 2011, 14:50:29
Quote from: cactux;409249
What is the most wanted collectible keyboard out there beside the IBM M15 and MX5000


Besides the MX5000 (which I have NIB) and the M15 (which one day I'll have but not in exchange of my MX5000 ; )  I did bet 450 Euros a few months ago on an Industrial Mini that I missed (it went for 510 Euros and several people offered more than I did).

510 Euros is not close to the 918 Euros that a NIB MX5000 reached recently but it's still quite a big sum for a keyboard.

That's my most wanted because the industrial mini is just sooo beautiful... (after a M15 but you ruled out the M15 ; )
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Post by: Chobopants on Fri, 02 September 2011, 17:01:55
What's that ridiculous ergo one that everyone in the ergo forum is waiting with bated breath for every single monthly email update? I'd say that's the most wanted!
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Post by: cactux on Fri, 02 September 2011, 17:35:51
Quote from: TacticalCoder;409573
Besides the MX5000 (which I have NIB) and the M15 (which one day I'll have but not in exchange of my MX5000 ; )  I did bet 450 Euros a few months ago on an Industrial Mini that I missed (it went for 510 Euros and several people offered more than I did).

510 Euros is not close to the 918 Euros that a NIB MX5000 reached recently but it's still quite a big sum for a keyboard.

That's my most wanted because the industrial mini is just sooo beautiful... (after a M15 but you ruled out the M15 ; )

I have my own MX5000 NIB, so technically I am part of the MX5000 clan ;-)
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Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 03 September 2011, 00:03:36
Honestly, any "vintage" board is cool to me. I use vintage loosely, but generally '80's keyboards. So both of my boards fall into this criteria. :biggrin:
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Post by: Sam on Sun, 04 September 2011, 21:24:10
Quote from: itlnstln;409307
How about a Beam Spring keyboard that works on modern PCs?

Hey, I've got one of those, hacked together the adapter myself.  It's wonderful to type on, but about as far from being portable as you can get.  There's at least one other member working on a similar project, but via replacing the controller.  Perhaps the only one or two available in the world at the moment.

I'd like to get a uTron myself, though based on reports of the keys not being full-size, probably wouldn't actually use it.  More interested though in getting one to try it out.  I've got a DataHand already, otherwise it would probably be near the top of my list.

I'm with Ripster on this one.  The industrial IBM Space Saving Keyboard probably wins top place.  I was outbid on the only one I've seen for sale (the one sold by Webwit on Deskthority).  I think second place would probably be Ripster's Financial Keycap SSK.

Maybe the rarest though, from what I've seen, would be an IBM 2260 terminal keyboard.  I haven't yet seen a single one for sale.  I guess I'd actually prefer to have one of those over an industrial SSK, but I doubt many others would share my enthusiasm, thus with respect to geekhack members in general, I doubt this would be anywhere near the top of the list.
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/2260.html (http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/2260.html)
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Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 04 September 2011, 21:51:26
Sam: Pictures of that beam spring you have would be sweet! Especially the controller just for S&G.
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Post by: Clickey on Mon, 05 September 2011, 02:48:00
I want a datahands. I can imagine it would double your typing speed.
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Post by: hcry4 on Mon, 05 September 2011, 10:43:18
Quote from: ripster;410873
HHKB3!!!  With ARROW keys!!!


You just want to be 100% correct on your predictions for 2011.
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Post by: cactux on Tue, 06 September 2011, 02:02:33
Quote from: ripster
HHKB3!!! With ARROW keys!!!
Sorry Nostradamus but that keyboard does not exist. I am interesting in real keyboards
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Post by: agor on Tue, 06 September 2011, 06:03:28
OTD 365 Series, I'll take the dark grey one!
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Post by: czarek on Tue, 06 September 2011, 06:19:31
Beat me. Model F keyboard (capacitive buckling springs) but with PS/2 or USB and in a Model M Space Saving (84 key) layout. I'd pay for this keyboard even the same amount as the original Model F was sold for.
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Post by: Clickey on Tue, 06 September 2011, 06:55:24
Datahands seems to be winning, but you dont add it to the poll?