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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: Findecanor on Thu, 13 October 2011, 08:02:18
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I just saw on slashdot that Dennis Ritchie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie), famous as the co-creator of both the first Unix system and of the C programming language (The "R" in "K&R") has passed away after a long illness.
He truly was one of the greatest.
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Did he invent the iPad?
(Just kidding. Ritchie's achievements were far greater).
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Did he invent the iPad?
(Just kidding. Ritchie's achievements were far greater).
Well I agree with this - It wasn't business for Dennis! while with Gates and Jobs it was always about money, control and influence. Never the less without the dynamic duo software would be very expensive today.
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some India journalist would probably say neither of them were great, far from it actually.
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Actually the fellow had an extremely good point... Steve Jobs technically didn't *DO* much of any of the things he's credited with. Yes he's responsible for them and caused them to happen. But he was just another PHB. The worst thing I can think of him doing is eliminating any charitable actions by Apple. The best? Apple products don't impress me, I can't make them do what *I* want... awesome stock performance tho.
On the other hand, all I know of Ritchie is in that little book of his and Kernighan's that I regularly refer to when coding in C. It's a shame he had to suffer some nasty disease...
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in my book, if you're CEO, you are great.
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Thank you very much. Not that I think what I do has anything to do with greatness... but hey, every little bit counts, right?
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I'm sure you're doing great things with your mech boards !!!
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while with Gates and Jobs it was always about money, control and influence.
Gates dead, too?
RIP, D.R.
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more and more I find that everything is about money control and influence.
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Is that why Jobs gave away so many computers to schools and Gates is trying to cure Malaria?
What have you done for the world lately?
Ditto Dude.
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I gave 25¢ to the cafe girl this morning. I'm in a good mood. :OP
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I gave 25¢ to the cafe girl this morning. I'm in a good mood. :OP
USD? So you gave her about $20 CAD?
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A true pioneer, we use his legacy now and likely for decades to come. Need for low-level implementation or server enviroment isn't going anywhere, like over priced touch-sensitive pieces of junk...
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(http://i.imgur.com/76RkJ.png)
As for Gates, c'mon - it's easy to give away money when you're a billionaire and semi-retired, it's not worthy of the overblown praise he receives for it (which I assume is part of his motivation for doing it in the first place, since he makes it so public). As for Jobs, It's pretty much common knowledge that he's barely given anything to charity in his life, which he's perfectly entitled to do and I'm not criticising him for it, but don't pretend giving away free Macs to schools is an act of benevolence rather than a shrewd business move.
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From Wired: Dennis Ritchie: The Shoulders Steve Jobs Stood On (http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2011/10/thedennisritchieeffect/)
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As for Gates, c'mon - it's easy to give away money when you're a billionaire and semi-retired, it's not worthy of the overblown praise he receives for it (which I assume is part of his motivation for doing it in the first place, since he makes it so public).
Gates had to step down from being CEO in order to be co-ceo (or whatever the head guy is) of his foundation (bill and melinda gates foundation) cuz he said he wouldn't be able to do both half assed, if he was going to be philanthropic, he would give it his all. I'm not a gates fanboi, but just watching his TED talks, you can see how he puts his cut-throatness towards philanthropy.
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I don't know what's sadder – that Dennis Ritchie died, or that fellow Geek Hackers are using the occasion as an excuse to throw rocks at the memory of Steve Jobs?
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USD? So you gave her about $20 CAD?
I gave her $CAD 0.25, or $0.24 !
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Gates had to step down from being CEO in order to be co-ceo (or whatever the head guy is) of his foundation (bill and melinda gates foundation) cuz he said he wouldn't be able to do both half assed, if he was going to be philanthropic, he would give it his all. I'm not a gates fanboi, but just watching his TED talks, you can see how he puts his cut-throatness towards philanthropy.
I still don't think his motives are purely altruistic, I think a lot of it is to do with vanity, self-fulfilment and leaving a legacy. Nothing wrong with that, I just think it's naive when people speak as if he's doing it purely out of the kindness of his heart, despite his less than charitable approach towards other previous aspects of his life, and the fact he's set up a foundation rather than just discreetly donating money to existing charities. I know one could easily make justifications against those points, about how he wants to see his money put to best use and such, but I still don't buy it.
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Is that why Jobs gave away so many computers to schools and Gates is trying to cure Malaria?
What have you done for the world lately?
well ... I'm not sure I follow - It sounds to me like a super rich guy dropping a dime ... wait I'll be nice ... dollar for a homeless person ... These people have the chance to prevent poverty on continents... do you follow? continents! not some school in some deprived neighborhood- we can have this discussion again in a couple of years when the poverty level increases even further in the USA and the gap between the rich and the poor grows even wider. - what was it these guys make in 1 second again...? sorry ridiculous question!
miss Jobs, probably not, Ritchie probably not, but certainly in terms of contribution to Science: Ritchie!
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I don't mind Ariel, I used it for many years.
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It's a tribute to your majesty.
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Gates created Ariel.
Really? I thought that was Disney (Steve Jobs, then?).
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^geekgirl
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I still don't think his motives are purely altruistic, I think a lot of it is to do with vanity, self-fulfilment and leaving a legacy. Nothing wrong with that, I just think it's naive when people speak as if he's doing it purely out of the kindness of his heart, despite his less than charitable approach towards other previous aspects of his life, and the fact he's set up a foundation rather than just discreetly donating money to existing charities. I know one could easily make justifications against those points, about how he wants to see his money put to best use and such, but I still don't buy it.
what's his less than charitable approach towards other aspects of life? his dominating force of will at Microsoft where he crushed the competition? isn't that... business? as a businessman don't you want the other guy to die?
The reason he set up the bill and melinda gates foundation is so that he can control where the money goes, i mean it must make sense to some other rich ppl such as warren buffet since he's the second biggest donor to the charity.
I mean look at bono's charity, i think that charity raised like 50million or so but like only 50k went to the charity, the rest went to pay salaries of ppl and "awareness".
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Like I said...
I know one could easily make justifications against those points, about how he wants to see his money put to best use and such, but I still don't buy it.
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int main()
{
printf("goodbye, dad\n);
return 0;
}
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(Attachment) 28648[/ATTACH]
int main()
{
printf("goodbye, dad\n);
return 0;
}
Why do they want to write /n in output? ;D
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Why do they want to write /n in output? ;D
Don't aks me, I don't know C, just a little bit of Java. I got the code from here: http://www.golem.de/1110/87024.html
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It's \n guys, the newline character. Ritchie must be turning over in the grave already, seeing /n !!!
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That much I know (I got it right too), but isn't it rather useless when you only writing one line?
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That much I know (I got it right too), but isn't it rather useless when you only writing one line?
Not at all, there are times when you want to write something on the screen, keeping the cursor on the same line to print something else.
Like this:
Please wait... (your program does something time consuming) done!
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It's chosen desing, better to have coder sort out it with \n new lines thand mess up with it yourself. Be sure just what is the behaviour. C and c++ has never been about easy, more of not needing to mess up with assembly.