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Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: eosgreen on Mon, 24 October 2011, 22:58:33
so im swapping from a keyboard that has sculpted keys but they lay flat on the same level as all the other rows

here is my horrible example....


first row
...........second row
...........................third row

thats kind of the angling im refering to but my keyboard looks like this....

first row  second row  third row


im using a logitech classic keyboard 200 and need a similar mechanical board

my current mech keyboard im trying out uses red switches and i dont mind them as i am to understand they have the least tactile feedback of the mx cherry switches but i wouldnt mind another keyboard that has less noisy switches and is just as reliable without any tactile feedback
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: Clickey on Mon, 24 October 2011, 23:03:27
The noise is from bottoming out. If you learn to touch type, there will be no noise. You could also try one of the many dampening mods. Pretty much all mechanical keyboards make noise if you bottom out hard.
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: eosgreen on Mon, 24 October 2011, 23:05:04
the main focus of this post tho is to find a keyboard similar to the logitech classic keyboard 200
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: Clickey on Mon, 24 October 2011, 23:08:08
I also hate the fact that keyboards are slanted upward, it is very uncomfortable and I do not understand their logic making them like this. I prop the front of my keyboards up on my wrist rest so that the slant is neutral or even negative.
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: eosgreen on Mon, 24 October 2011, 23:10:55
so no boards exist that solve my problem damn.....

proping it up im not sure if it will fix the problem or not...
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: Quarzac on Mon, 24 October 2011, 23:35:46
Huh. I hate when keyboards are not tilted up. I can't type on a flat board. It's just weird to me.
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: flyball on Mon, 24 October 2011, 23:42:55
Quote from: Clickey;438610
The noise is from bottoming out. If you learn to touch type, there will be no noise. You could also try one of the many dampening mods. Pretty much all mechanical keyboards make noise if you bottom out hard.
that doesn't mean what you think it does
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: Trueepower on Tue, 25 October 2011, 00:52:31
Quote from: eosgreen;438603
so im swapping from a keyboard that has sculpted keys but they lay flat on the same level as all the other rows

here is my horrible example....


first row
...........second row
...........................third row

thats kind of the angling im refering to but my keyboard looks like this....

first row  second row  third row


im using a logitech classic keyboard 200 and need a similar mechanical board

my current mech keyboard im trying out uses red switches and i dont mind them as i am to understand they have the least tactile feedback of the mx cherry switches but i wouldnt mind another keyboard that has less noisy switches and is just as reliable without any tactile feedback


It's about impossible not to bottom out while using red switches (can be even hard for some people with any switch). I would recommend dampening pads which can be purchased at Elitekeyboards.com. They are what you need when you are using red switches in particular. They should do the trick for you. Good luck!
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: Tony on Tue, 25 October 2011, 02:02:37
Cherry ML switch G84-4400 keyboards seem flat. They are very rare however.
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: Wallach on Tue, 25 October 2011, 09:08:54
Check out Deck keyboards. They have sculpted keycaps but flat layouts and all of their boards have MX black switch options (linear like reds, but heavier).
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: fossala on Tue, 25 October 2011, 09:12:37
Quote from: Tony;438726
Cherry ML switch G84-4400 keyboards seem flat. They are very rare however.
They come up for less than £10 on ebay most weeks
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 25 October 2011, 09:40:09
Quote from: fossala;438816
They come up for less than £10 on ebay most weeks

You can get a new one for $125 (once they restock)
http://www.ergocanada.com/detailed_specification_pages/cherry_ultraslim_keyboard_compact.html


Or the DSI version for $75 (once they restock)
http://www.ergocanada.com/detailed_specification_pages/dsi_super_compact_keyboard.html
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: fossala on Tue, 25 October 2011, 09:42:29
Or $35 new on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-G84-4100-PS2-Compact-Keyboard-NEW-/180717271159?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item2a1396b877
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: eosgreen on Tue, 25 October 2011, 12:42:51
so i looked at the deck 82 ice board and it is a flat layout but its angled which im not used to why do they do that

its also a bit expensive for my taste in mech keyboards are there any cheaper ones around 100 that have a flat layout?

also i do not like the tactile feedback so are there any deck boards that are mx RED?
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: Clickey on Tue, 25 October 2011, 13:52:49
Quote from: Tony;438726
Cherry ML switch G84-4400 keyboards seem flat. They are very rare however.


ML keyboards are not rare at all, they are just unpopular, you can get them for $20 new on ebay sometimes.

Quote from: eosgreen;438978
so i looked at the deck 82 ice board and it is a flat layout but its angled which im not used to why do they do that

its also a bit expensive for my taste in mech keyboards are there any cheaper ones around 100 that have a flat layout?

also i do not like the tactile feedback so are there any deck boards that are mx RED?


I have only ever seen Deck/TG3 keyboards in black and clear. Blacks are linear, but harder to press. Why do you say you don't like tactile feedback? Have you ever even tried a cherry brown/blue/clear? If you used a tactile board you could easilly type without bottoming out and silent.
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: eosgreen on Tue, 25 October 2011, 14:06:26
i dont like tactile feedback on mice because its loud but mainly because it feels wrong

im actually enjoying these red switches a lot even tho the board is kinda off for me

currently using a noppoo choc mini
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: Clickey on Tue, 25 October 2011, 14:10:22
Tactility is not noise, it is feel. A mouse is clicky not just tactile. Your logitec had tactile feedback as do every other scissor/rubber dome. I think you are avoiding it unnecessarily.
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: eosgreen on Tue, 25 October 2011, 14:15:59
im not voiding anything lol i just PREF the non tactile feel why are you arguing with me over a personal pref? do you know of a flat style board? if you do please say so

if the board has dif switches then i requested just say so... otherwise please leave my thread alone
Title: need a mechanical keyboard that is not angled upwards or slanted in key layout
Post by: Clickey on Tue, 25 October 2011, 17:00:13
:sorry:, not trying to argue or insult, just thought you might not have tried it. Linear boards would be harder to find in non-orthodox layout, that is why I was suggesting you try tactiles, because you probably could find one more easilly. You might be able to get a TG3 backlit board with mx blacks for much cheaper than a deck. The tilt is minimal, but the board is quite thick (1-2inches off the surface).