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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: eosgreen on Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:43:12
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since i cant get any response 10 bucks for 1min of your time that you are wasting jacking off on the internet is a good deal
if you have my answer just add your paypal address or pm it and ill pay ya
im looking for a SKINNY not thick like most boards, keyboard with a flat layout
PREF red switches
sculpted keys
around 120 nothing higher
now im new to this **** so when i say skinny i mean from the ground to the top of the key not width we are talking z axis here
please post a link guys and i dont care WHAT the board is as long as its going to be more responsive them membrain keyboards... or similarly responsive to a cherry mx red
scissor switches i know nothing about so ill be bland
what is a good keyboard that is not membrain
is skinny z axis wise
is a flat key layout
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skinny jeans
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Well that new Cherry board would probably suffice for some of those requirements but what you are asking for is far from what other people want.
See Ripster about Supply and Demand.
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supply and demand? does he buy all the worlds boards like the diamond companys lol? the cherry slim boards right?
the ones that run around 70 bucks?
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If you don't get fixated on the mechanical switch idea then consider a scissor switch board.
Logitech make a few low-profile (which is what you mean by 'skinny') that have sculpted keys that get good reviews. There are many others too.
If low-profile matters then don't discount a good scissor switch option. Especially if you are interested in MX Red which are not much different in feel to a good SS in my experience except for key travel which you seem to not want if you want a low-profile board.
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try rebooting
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Keys are cylindrical. Keyboards have sculpted layouts.
This is about as flat as you're going to get.
Deck (http://www.deckkeyboards.com/) Tenkeyless (Black, not Red)
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As you can see I consider truth worth more that 10 paypal bucks.
the keyboard im attempting to mimic is a logitech classic 200
i cant get as skinny as that? or even close?
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823333078
this is a board that claims its slim but that might mean width
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Keys are cylindrical. Keyboards have sculpted layouts.
This is about as flat as you're going to get.
Deck (http://www.deckkeyboards.com/) Tenkeyless (Black, not Red)
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As you can see I consider truth worth more that 10 paypal bucks.
do you by chance have a measurement of that? my height currently is around 3/4 an inch maybe a tad less
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i think cherry brand keyboards (the G80s) are pretty thin (for a mechanical keyboard)
Give us an example of thin in your mind.
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Attempting to have a keyboard skinnier than most is foolish. A Cherry MX Switch is too large to achieve the paper-thin nature of a Scissor Switch.
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How about $5 upfront to answer that?
er is that factual? thats the SKINNIEST board? im aware of the fact that the keyboards flat but it isnt fitting my skinny description req...
i know a good amount enough to make educated purchases on boards but i cant find pics of the sides of these boards to tell what the height is which is the only reason im really posting this
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ml switches only come as tactile, so what you want doesn't exist.
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Attempting to have a keyboard skinnier than most is foolish. A Cherry MX Switch is too large to achieve the paper-thin nature of a Scissor Switch.
ok i stand corrected im not educated on that type of switch enough to make an educated purchase
what is a scissor switch and how is its feel compared to say a cherry mx red?
and does this mean a board exists that will fit my specifications?
is a scissor switch a buckling spring switch?
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You can always just take the board out of the casing and just stick the bare pcb on some kind of an insulated, plastic container/sheet.
I've actually thought that might be a cool look, kind of a poker design without that thick shell. But bare pcb, with low profile cherry co/ signature plastic keys are as thin as it's going to get. I would use a less expensive board to experiment with, though.
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er is that factual? thats the SKINNIEST board? im aware of the fact that the keyboards flat but it isnt fitting my skinny description req...
i know a good amount enough to make educated purchases on boards but i cant find pics of the sides of these boards to tell what the height is which is the only reason im really posting this
I would consider getting a wrist rest along with a mechanical keyboard instead of worrying too much about the thickness of the keyboard.
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ok i stand corrected im not educated on that type of switch enough to make an educated purchase
what is a scissor switch and how is its feel compared to say a cherry mx red?
Go to the Wiki on Mechanical Keyboards; a scissor switch is like ones found on Laptops, a MX Blue/Red/Black/Clear/Brown is found on golden boards of the gods.
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i think cherry brand keyboards (the G80s) are pretty thin (for a mechanical keyboard)
Give us an example of thin in your mind.
skinny in my mind is 3/4 an inch from the desk/ground up to the top of the keys which are ALL on the same plane aka a flat key layout
again i dont care WHAT board it is. the reason im buying a mech keyboard is that in sc2 my unit hotkeys are not always saving because im not crushing the dome keycap every press and it isnt recording my ctrl keypress. i need a board that doesnt have this problem aka a mechanical keyboard
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For free I'll tell you my Filco is 1.5" at the highest point.
lol this is why im posting for 10 bucks because ppl here are kinda rude... i have looked all over and yes im aware all these boards are VERY thick. i dont know if a board even exists that is not a membrain keyboard and is not thick...
you know all about keyboards no doubt. i know nothing nearly so i could use some help thats all
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lol this is why im posting for 10 bucks because ppl here are kinda rude... i have looked all over and yes im aware all these boards are VERY thick. i dont know if a board even exists that is not a membrain keyboard and is not thick...
you know all about keyboards no doubt. i know nothing nearly so i could use some help thats all
Try one of those apple style scissor switch board.
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I would consider getting a wrist rest along with a mechanical keyboard instead of worrying too much about the thickness of the keyboard.
i have thought about that and i have one
problem is that the keyboard keys still slant and im very very ocd about my **** and cant deal with it
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Try one of those apple style scissor switch board.
idn what "those apple style are" pretend i know nothing about anything
link? exact name?
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this has gota be an easy 10 bucks to someone who knows his way around keyboards... ANY board thats skinny around 3/4inch tall to anything a bit less then an inch for TOTAL thickness from key to bottom of board that has similar responsiveness to a mechanical board so that my keystrokes do not go missed during gaming...
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idn what "those apple style are" pretend i know nothing about anything
link? exact name?
The Apple Keyboard
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this has gota be an easy 10 bucks to someone who knows his way around keyboards... ANY board thats skinny around 3/4inch tall to anything a bit less then an inch for TOTAL thickness from key to bottom of board that has similar responsiveness to a mechanical board so that my keystrokes do not go missed during gaming...
Not really. Coz chances there is no such board in the mechanical category. At least not for Cherry MX switches.
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Not really. Coz chances there is no such board in the mechanical category. At least not for Cherry MX switches.
idc about the switches man just as long as they are not membrain
they gota have a good response to them. im not talking about tactile response im talking about the fact that membrain keyboards need you to fully press them down to record the keystroke but mech ones dont that sort of response
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i have read about scissor switch keys and i know what they are but what boards are using them that fit my reqs? it says it has a better response time to around 2mm while dome is 2.5 to 3.5 so it prob will fit my needs but again it says they dont make these for things usually other then built in things as you said laptops
anyone got some keyboards with scissor switch that fit my reqs?
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Siig Minitouch with the tactile leaves pulled. Should be very similar to reds. Also meets the price constraint.
That's about as flat as you'll get with standard switches on a plate on a PCB. IIRC the keycaps are lowish profile.
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http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?9808-quot-Best-quot-scissor-switch-flat-keyboard/page3
ripster might end up getting the 10 without even posting the right answer on the topic... that logitech board looks identical to what i would want...
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Siig Minitouch with the tactile leaves pulled. Should be very similar to reds. Also meets the price constraint.
That's about as flat as you'll get with standard switches on a plate on a PCB. IIRC the keycaps are lowish profile.
thats way to fat
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idc about the switches man just as long as they are not membrain
they gota have a good response to them. im not talking about tactile response im talking about the fact that membrain keyboards need you to fully press them down to record the keystroke but mech ones dont that sort of response
Try, something along the line of Apple keyboard (google it) or one of these
http://www.amazon.com/AZIO-KB503U-Full-Chiclet-Keyboard/dp/B004HFUVL2
think they are called chiclet keyboard.
GLHF
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http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?9808-quot-Best-quot-scissor-switch-flat-keyboard/page3
ripster might end up getting the 10 without even posting the right answer on the topic... that logitech board looks identical to what i would want...
all logitechs are membrane based keyboards.
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i have read about scissor switch keys and i know what they are but what boards are using them that fit my reqs? it says it has a better response time to around 2mm while dome is 2.5 to 3.5 so it prob will fit my needs but again it says they dont make these for things usually other then built in things as you said laptops
anyone got some keyboards with scissor switch that fit my reqs?
They are the best thing you can get next to the mechanical switches. I would give those a shot, since they are relatively cheaper.
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all logitechs are membrane based keyboards.
Logitech's higher end uses scissor switch of their own design.
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Chiclet e keyboards (like the Apple ones) have flat keycaps.
Since you seem to have little ability to type a keyword into a search engine here's a link to the Logitech site.
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/keyboards/keyboards
Has the repeated explanations that what you are asking for (a MX based board that has a lower profile than a MX switch) means you are asking for the equivalent of the mailing address of the Tooth Fairy. It's not going to happen.
Take the hint. You are going to have to choose different criteria and not just wail "no-one is helping me. boo hoo"
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Why would anyone want a skinny ass flat keyboard o_O
Just wondering what the appeal is, I honestly don't understand it.
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all logitechs are membrane based keyboards.
Check facts before posting and the risk of embarrassing yourself is hugely reduced.
If you include SS boards as membrane boards you are technically incorrect.
If you don't realise Logitech make decent SS boards then your research is insufficient.
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do i want higher travel distance for keys? scissor switches are 3.2mm and its saying that standard keyboards (membrain) are 2 mm
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Check facts before posting and the risk of embarrassing yourself is hugely reduced.
If you include SS boards as membrane boards you are technically incorrect.
If you don't realise Logitech make decent SS boards then your research is insufficient.
Logitech's higher end uses scissor switch of their own design.
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All+About+Scissor+Switches#How+A+Scissor+Switch+Works
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http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All+About+Scissor+Switches#How+A+Scissor+Switch+Works
both of u have huge epenis flyball is the man
o wdh you have to bottom out on a scissor switch also... wdh why did someone recommend scissor switch when i SAID it has to be similar to a mechanical switch...
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both of u have huge epenis please just we are at the home stretch lol
what is the point of scissor switches having HIGHER travel time 3.2mm rather then standard 2.2?
idk but you already said you don't want a keyboard with switches that actuate at the bottom of the stroke, which is exactly what the scissor switches do.
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http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All+About+Scissor+Switches#How+A+Scissor+Switch+Works
Are you trying to claim that any board with a membrane is a membrane board?
If you are then think about the other boards with membranes that no sane and sober person would claim are "membrane" boards.
Again, a little research goes a long way.
In a Model M, the electrical contact is a membrane sheet similar to that of a modern dome switch keyboard. On the older Model F design, a capacitive contact was used instead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckling_spring
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lol this is why im posting for 10 bucks because ppl here are kinda rude...
No offense, but those coming here expecting to be spoon fed would usually be treated rather "rudely," Not because we don't want them here, but a lot of things can be figured out by going through the wiki. Except ripster, he is always nice to the noobs, and then half of them would end up hating him down the road.
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Are you trying to claim that any board with a membrane is a membrane board?
If you are then think about the other boards with membranes that no sane and sober person would claim are "membrane" boards.
Again, a little research goes a long way.
In a Model M, the electrical contact is a membrane sheet similar to that of a modern dome switch keyboard. On the older Model F design, a capacitive contact was used instead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckling_spring
this discussion is about logitech keyboards.
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What do you mean by 'the point' of the travel distance?
Are you asking about the technical design of the SS or assuming that every engineering decision is taken to increase your pleasure or something else.
Do you think maybe there is more mechanism in a SS that needs some space? Could that explain it? Are you really going to let a mm of travel distance stop you in your tracks?
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What do you mean by 'the point' of the travel distance?
Are you asking about the technical design of the SS or assuming that every engineering decision is taken to increase your pleasure or something else.
Do you think maybe there is more mechanism in a SS that needs some space? Could that explain it? Are you really going to let a mm of travel distance stop you in your tracks?
I smell derailing
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this discussion is about logitech keyboards.
Yes and logitech make SS boards (as well as others).
And SS are NOT membrane boards.
I can see the connection between all these issues, can you not see the thread between what you are posting and what is being said to you? If not then take a deep breath, read the thread again and see if you can join the dots.
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Yes and logitech make SS boards (as well as others).
And SS are NOT membrane boards.
I can see the connection between all these issues, can you not see the thread between what you are posting and what is being said to you? If not then take a deep breath, read the thread again and see if you can join the dots.
they use a membrane and work similarly to membrane keyboards. here's a link that says that scissor switches are a variation of the rubber dome scheme http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=START+HERE+--+The+Geekhack+Mechanical+Keyboard+Guide+-+Includes+Glossary+and+Links
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No offense, but those coming here expecting to be spoon fed would usually be treated rather "rudely," Not because we don't want them here, but a lot of things can be figured out by going through the wiki. Except ripster, he is always nice to the noobs, and then half of them would end up hating him down the road.
i personally came here when someone recommended it to me via OCN to learn about keyboards. when i knew nothing about computers OCN helped me and i in return have helped others
same here... i know nothing. in a month i will know a lot and be able to help others. if you are gonna be a **** about me not knowing anything then so be it... im even making your help worth the while slightly by adding a bit of cash...
there is nothing wrong with my method but in fact what is wrong is the perception of what is actually going on by you... i just need help you can give it or not but if you actually fix my problem u get 10 bucks. thats it dont read too much into it
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they use a membrane and work similarly to membrane keyboards. here's a link that says that scissor switches are a variation of the rubber dome scheme http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=START+HERE+--+The+Geekhack+Mechanical+Keyboard+Guide+-+Includes+Glossary+and+Links
so is it safe to say its actually MORE of a ***** to type on a logitech 120k scissor switch then your standard membrane keyboard...
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so is it safe to say its actually MORE of a ***** to type on a logitech 120k scissor switch then your standard membrane keyboard...
not really, some people prefer them because they have a shorter movement. http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All+About+Scissor+Switches#Force+Charts+and+Feel here's a link, the "operation point" is both the end of the key press and where the key registers as being down.
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ANYWAYS, getting back to the original point, there are no keyboards that fit your requirements (mechanical, short) because of the height of the individual switches. pick one.
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Why not spend more time to get accustomed to the noppo choc mini that you just bought? You'll probably end up hating a flat keyboard after a while.
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A wrist rest is the way to go. A good gel rest is a wonderful thing and "levels the playing field" as they say.
If you want thin, just buy whatever the latest release from Apple is - today.
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A wrist rest is the way to go. A good gel rest is a wonderful thing and "levels the playing field" as they say.
If you want thin, just buy whatever the latest release from Apple is - today.
OP wants flat profile.
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so then the answer is that nothing exists... that is so depressing.
heres the thing... i doubt its a mechanical impossibility because im looking at this noppoo and it is the proper height i want at the first row but is higher as the keyboard moves up... so why is that
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so then the answer is that nothing exists... that is so depressing.
heres the thing... i doubt its a mechanical impossibility because im looking at this noppoo and it is the proper height i want at the first row but is higher as the keyboard moves up... so why is that
each row of keys is angled differently http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All+About+Keys#Key+Types+Size+Spacing+and+Geometry
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Something that comes close is the new cherry G80-3800 released in Asia now:
http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1329
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someone already said cherry ml, search for cherry 4100ml, it's probably the one of the only mech boards, that is the thinnest, with contoured(cylindrical keycaps), flat (non stepped) keyboard.
ss, scissor switches are not mechanical, they are rubberdome and membrane.
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here's your pic for pm
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9791/p1020890c.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/p1020890c.jpg/)
had to install a new battery for the micrometer, who knew watch batteries die so easily, who knew i had an extra around, why do lr44 and ag13 = the same battery type?
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ill breast feed you eosgreen. It seems like you want that
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what the hell noodles lol
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when do i get mey ten dollars?
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why do lr44 and ag13 = the same battery type?
LR and AG designate chemical content, latter has more capacity and costs more.
I am searching for LR1130 for ages to revive this:
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this keyboard is pretty skinny
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And it comes with an attached ultrabook!
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What the hell is the context of that pic. I assume it's a book but seriously, wut.
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Nick is limbless and is a comedic motivational speaker... he basically laughs at himself and points out that your life doesn't quite suck so much as you thought.
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oh wow. I realized where I knew your name from now. Did your sleeving issue ever get cleared up with adam?
and p.s. dont try to pull that kind of **** here. thanks.
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eosgreen of course.
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Please pay up. Jacking off is pretty precious to me and my Johnson.
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he came to my church to speak
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I'd pay $10 PayPal to the poster who finds the fattest keyboard with the actuating travel of keys like hydraulic pistons? TenKeyless, please?
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I love people who start a topic with a half-baked idea, barely the most rudimentary knowledge of the subject, and all the swagger of Fiddy Cent if he'd been crowned King of England, demanding that everyone answer all their nonsensical questions and fulfill all their demands.
I'm currently deal with another guy who's demanding that I give him "a basi blueprint of a NAND name, a Powersupply brand, and a chipset brand," for his GPS locator project, which he wants to manufacture on a grand scale and make money on. Incidentally, he doesn't know what software he's using, what NAND is, how he's going to manufacture it, or anything about electrical engineering or GPS technology. When I told him to talk to an electrical engineer and maybe start a partnership he accused me of dodging questions. Amusing fellow, and I wish him the best of luck in his incoherent endeavors.
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Oh lily Allen, I love you.
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I love people who start a topic with a half-baked idea, barely the most rudimentary knowledge of the subject, and all the swagger of Fiddy Cent
from OCN
i actually have paid i think 3 ppl here 15 bucks each for advice that i need asap so check yoself before you wigidywigidy wreck yourself
looks like he'd rather imitate ice cube instead of 50c.
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Corsair Vengeance K60 is probably the skinniest Cherry Swithces you can get
And yes, it's skinny because it doesn't have a outer case
But the Switches are still at their normal size
And it comes with Cherry Reds, not sure if this is what you want
But it's the closest thing I could think of
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Did he even say why he wanted a thin keyboard? Also what is the problem with different heights of keycaps, the F and the numeral rows are only taller by a few cm on the Noppoo. I don't even know why I bother with this thread, OP is obviously ducking payment :X