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Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 02 November 2011, 21:26:23

Any chance someone knows the make/model of the connector used inside an 87key Filco to connect the cable to the PCB?  I'm interested in both the connector and the receptacle.


Thanks

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: ironman31 on Wed, 02 November 2011, 21:47:03

If it's the same as the Noppoo mini, I got one from Fry's. It's a molex .100 KK Housing & terminals 4 Cir. (2.54mm)

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7057/part1320288592340.jpg)

This is the best picture I could manage with a DROID camera

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 02 November 2011, 21:58:31

The one in a Filco is 2mm spacing, 5 pin.  And if that's the connector for the cable in your pic, it's HUGE compared to the Filco.  

This one is 10mm wide, 3mm thick, 6mm deep.  As far as I can tell it's an attempt at a direct competitor to one of Amps connectors.

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: laffindude on Wed, 02 November 2011, 22:11:50

One of these? [ATTACH=CONFIG]30708[/ATTACH]
I just pulled that one out of an old mouse.

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 02 November 2011, 22:18:25

Yup, that seems to be exactly it.  And also, my plan worked.  I've been banging on the net for 2 days to find this thing.  45 minutes after I ask here, I find the damned thing.

It's a JST PH  5 position connector and SMT mount shrouded receptacle.
connector housing: PHR-5
connector pins: SPH-002T-P0.5S
SMT mount shrouded header: S5B-PH-SM4-TB


Now I need to figure out where to buy them in smaller quantities...

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: laffindude on Wed, 02 November 2011, 22:20:11

See if you can pull apart an old mouse and salvage it.
Edit, it is an MS mouse. I think I saw the same connector inside a MS keyboard too.

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: bloodygood on Wed, 02 November 2011, 22:27:06

Is this the piece you are looking for? http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/353280-conn-housing-ph-5pos-2mm-white-phr-5.html

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 02 November 2011, 22:35:55

My primary interest is actually the PCB side... which no one seems to stock, even when they stock the cable side.

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: laffindude on Wed, 02 November 2011, 22:43:04

^Hence why I suggested pulling old mouse you don't need apart for it. Just desolder the receptacle from the PCB.

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 02 November 2011, 22:44:16

Fixed the part number... wonder what they changed between the revisions....
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1606546-conn-header-ph-side-5pos-2mm-smd-s5b-ph-sm4-tb-lf-sn-p.html
$.70 each

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 02 November 2011, 22:44:51

I'm not about to pull apart ~50 mice :)  small quantity compared to the 1000 JST wants to sell me.

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: laffindude on Wed, 02 November 2011, 22:52:20

I don't think anyone has 50 old mice laying around ;o

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: alaricljs on Wed, 02 November 2011, 22:54:45

Well there are 2 complete sets of 50 that have the wrong PCB connector for super cheap ($7)... I've asked both sellers if they can substitute the right PCB end.

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 03 November 2011, 11:02:48

Quote from: alaricljs;444650

My primary interest is actually the PCB side... which no one seems to stock, even when they stock the cable side.

Can't you just use a normal 90 degree .1 spaced 5 pin header?

Title: Filco's internal connector?
Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 03 November 2011, 11:07:42

I'm interested in giving people the option of using original parts from their KB... for instance either the Filco cable or the CMStorm extension to the external USB connector.