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Title: HDD Price
Post by: pitashen on Sun, 13 November 2011, 21:01:08

Its been on tech news forever, but never really got the feel of it until I looked into expanding my storage.

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=14&name=Internal-Hard-Drives

Title: HDD Price
Post by: whiskerBox on Sun, 13 November 2011, 22:47:46

You might be better off waiting until "BlackFriday" - last year I got a 2tb external drive for $60 @ Target. I just cant wait til the day that decent size SSD drives become affordable

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Quarzac on Sun, 13 November 2011, 22:52:31

Wait a minute, here. What happened to HDD prices? I got a 1TB drive a long while ago for $75. Now the cheapest one on Newegg is $140. There's no reason the price of HDDs should go up.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: file_id on Sun, 13 November 2011, 23:02:07

Hard drive manufacturers have production facilities in thailand that were hit with flooding. The media said "OMG we are going to run into hard drive shortages" causing the increase in prices.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Quarzac on Sun, 13 November 2011, 23:06:16

Quote from: file_id;451557

Hard drive manufacturers have production facilities in thailand that were hit with flooding. The media said "OMG we are going to run into hard drive shortages" causing the increase in prices.

**** that. It's like that time that one RAM manufacturer folded. RAM prices were through the roof for 2 years. Luckily, they're back in normal range now.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: whiskerBox on Sun, 13 November 2011, 23:18:27

Ok I didn't realize that was the reason for the high prices that is alarming! Well I guess I will have to wait for things to reach their equilibrium before upgrading to a larger SSD

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Foodmanchew on Mon, 14 November 2011, 03:38:11

Quote from: whiskerBox;451563

Ok I didn't realize that was the reason for the high prices that is alarming! Well I guess I will have to wait for things to reach their equilibrium before upgrading to a larger SSD

SSD prices shouldn't increase. I believe the flooding is only affecting HDD prices.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: wmtx on Mon, 14 November 2011, 06:41:19

I really do hope that SSD prices stay independent of the HDD prices. In that case it could even help to accelerate SSD adoption as they get more attractive in relation.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 14 November 2011, 21:00:47

I got a 2tb Seagate at Target for $85 last week. It was an external, but I opened it and pulled it so I could mount it internally. It turned out to be one of their better new model sata 6gbps drives. The same bare drive was listed online for around $160... pretty funny.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: bavman on Thu, 17 November 2011, 11:27:30

I bought several 2tb hdds this summer for $60 each on sale, now theyre up to $230!!!

on another note, i just won a 4tb external raid drive by buffalo...anyone want it? :)
Its 400 new but i wouldnt sell it for that much

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Malphas on Thu, 17 November 2011, 12:09:01

It's going to take like 12-18 months for prices to revert back to where they should be had the Thailand flooding not happened.  Personally annoying, I'll probably need to stuff some more in my Drobo before then.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Internetlad on Thu, 17 November 2011, 12:13:04

I got a Agility 3 120 GB and never looked back. Unless you're storing a server full of prawns or pirating Blu-Ray movies, or you have some other special circumstances (specifically where you'd need a pile of storage, such as a server) you don't need more than 120 GBs. This is a fact. just delete programs/games you don't use very much, and if you have music/video/pics you need archived, put em on DVDs, Flash media or the like.

I hate it when people are like YEAH I GOT 7 TB OF STORAGE IN MY LEET GAMING RIG!!!

Well what good is it going to do you other than having the most cluttered PC in history. Just manage your data intelligently and you'll never have any need for anywhere near that amount of storage.

\rant

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Malphas on Thu, 17 November 2011, 12:17:11

That's bad advice, putting data on DVDs and flash media is more expensive and less secure than RAID.  I use an SSD though.  Along with a couple hard drives, one for heavy frameserving, media editing etc. and one for downloading appalling masses of pornography onto.  And a Drobo for archival.  Best of all worlds.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: iindigo on Thu, 17 November 2011, 12:41:17

I feel sorry for the citizens of Thailand, but the price hike really sucks. I might end up needing to build a new computer for work soon, and it's really hard to justify paying $169 for a 1TB Samsung Spinpoint...

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Malphas on Thu, 17 November 2011, 12:50:31

Having visited Pattaya, I don't feel sorry for the citizens of Thailand at all.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Ekaros on Thu, 17 November 2011, 18:25:23

Hmm, 120GB isn't much, considering single folder on my HDD:
186 Gt (200*136*846*496 tavua)
149*067 tiedostoa, 7*362 kansiota

The 200GB partition is getting bit small. Any guesses what it is?

Title: HDD Price
Post by: kriminal on Thu, 17 November 2011, 20:20:16

Quote from: ripster;454124

I GOT 7 TB IN MY LEET GAMING RIG!

Actually my PS3 only has 250GB.

My PC has 3TB and a 120GB Intel SSD though and a 1TB Deskstar staring at me in my Thermaltake BlacX for rotating safe deposit box backups.  U mad bro?

mmm thats sexy...

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Lanx on Fri, 18 November 2011, 13:30:04

so any idea when hd prices gonna come back down to normal price? i.e. what "used" to be a good deal for
2tb
3tb

drives? i think the last drive i bought a year ago was a wd 2tb for 80 (it was an external drive that i ripped open and it was a regular 2tb hd in it).

i don't keep up with the news so this will be cool to know.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Malphas on Fri, 18 November 2011, 13:33:29

About a year.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Malphas on Fri, 18 November 2011, 13:35:44

Urgh, Germans.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: pitashen on Fri, 18 November 2011, 14:00:12

Quote from: Lanx;454958

so any idea when hd prices gonna come back down to normal price? i.e. what "used" to be a good deal for
2tb
3tb

drives? i think the last drive i bought a year ago was a wd 2tb for 80 (it was an external drive that i ripped open and it was a regular 2tb hd in it).
i don't keep up with the news so this will be cool to know.

From what I have heard, it could be as long as a couple of years or so to go back to the normal price..

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Foodmanchew on Fri, 18 November 2011, 15:14:38

Here are some numbers I found on the web that compare 3rd quarter shipping to 4th quarter estimates (post flood)
Western Digital 3Q11: 58 million HDDs
Western Digital 4Q11: 22-26 million HDDs
Hitachi 3Q11: 31-32 million HDDs
Hitachi 4Q11: 20 million HDDs
Toshiba 3Q11: 22 million HDDs
Toshiba 4Q11: 12 million HDDs

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Lanx on Fri, 18 November 2011, 20:52:36

so buy ebay? lol

Title: HDD Price
Post by: bastones on Sat, 19 November 2011, 10:08:20

Quote from: Internetlad

I got a Agility 3 120 GB and never looked back. Unless you're storing a server full of prawns or pirating Blu-Ray movies, or you have some other special circumstances (specifically where you'd need a pile of storage, such as a server) you don't need more than 120 GBs. This is a fact. just delete programs/games you don't use very much, and if you have music/video/pics you need archived, put em on DVDs, Flash media or the like.

 I hate it when people are like YEAH I GOT 7 TB OF STORAGE IN MY LEET GAMING RIG!!!

 Well what good is it going to do you other than having the most cluttered PC in history. Just manage your data intelligently and you'll never have any need for anywhere near that amount of storage.

 \rant

A lot of people keep their entire music collection and movies library on their computer, which causes the most space usage obviously. So I am sure there are plenty of users who require large space capacities. Though I have to say the standard HDD space in most computers nowadays is way too much - especially for the low- to mid-range laptops. How is the average consumer going to use or need just close to 500GB of storage space?

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Malphas on Sat, 19 November 2011, 10:41:22

My Steamapps folder is 808GB.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 November 2011, 08:50:23

HDD prices will stay high into Q2 of 2012

Title: HDD Price
Post by: ktkr on Sun, 20 November 2011, 12:28:39

And when manufacturers realize the drives are being sold like hotcakes even for the current ripoff price, they will never fall down again.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 November 2011, 12:29:58

o and update from seagate going to be at least a year for prices to drop to what they were got off toms hardware

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Lanx on Sun, 20 November 2011, 16:59:09

i found a place that tracks prices, here's a standard wd green 2tb
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Desktop-WD20EARX/product/B004VFJ9MK

here's a green 3tb
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Green-Desktop/product/B004RORMF6

darn that october 15...

Title: HDD Price
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 November 2011, 17:01:13

Velociraptor jumped 130$ since i bough it on newegg.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Demofly on Mon, 21 November 2011, 09:16:06

HDD companies are going to milk it. The flooding caused "extensive damages directly inhibiting the manufacturing of HDD's", or "After flooding receeded, unexpected damages arose." Or, "This mark up is ****ing awesome."

Title: HDD Price
Post by: DanGWanG on Fri, 25 November 2011, 10:32:49

I bought 2x 750GB 7200 RPM HDD's on Craigslist (recertified) for $35/each because I couldn't find anything worthwhile elsewhere.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: Voixdelion on Sat, 03 December 2011, 12:48:10

Hmm, so maybe it was a good thing I accidently didn't get to return the RMA of my WD from amazon that arrived knocking about loose in a cardboard box.  I had them send the replacement first but had to put a deposit on my cc - I think I can still RMA the original though ... It would just essentially have meant that I bought a second drive without intending to, but looks that may have been a good thing.  I didn't know anything about this before reading this thread but was considering a new HDD anyway.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 14 December 2011, 00:36:08

well not so bad you can go buy a external 2tb from walmart right now for 140$ not to far off old retail price in store. Also I just picked up 2 2TB Hitchi's from newegg for $109.

Title: HDD Price
Post by: pitashen on Wed, 14 December 2011, 02:33:18

Quote from: TheProfosist;470302

well not so bad you can go buy a external 2tb from walmart right now for 140$ not to far off old retail price in store. Also I just picked up 2 2TB Hitchi's from newegg for $109.

whats the RPM? 5900? 7200?

Title: HDD Price
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 14 December 2011, 09:19:38

Quote from: pitashen;470355

whats the RPM? 5900? 7200?

7200rpm...

Title: HDD Price
Post by: weenis on Wed, 14 December 2011, 10:28:47

The HDD price and HDD shortage is due to Western Digital's factory being under water.

http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50130:floods-wash-away-intel-sales&catid=118

Title: HDD Price
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 14 December 2011, 10:38:26

Quote from: weenis;470546

The HDD price and HDD shortage is due to Western Digital's factory being under water.

http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50130:floods-wash-away-intel-sales&catid=118

well just about every manufacturer was under water minus one of seagates plants.