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Title: Qpad mk-85
Post by: 500_pts on Wed, 23 November 2011, 09:46:39: http://www.corporate.qpad.se/modules/news/article.php?storyid=248

claims full nkro over usb

woo?

$200?
Title: Qpad mk-85
Post by: 500_pts on Wed, 23 November 2011, 10:05:07: i miss the solutor :(
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Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 23 November 2011, 12:03:54: pooty tat
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Post by: flyball on Wed, 23 November 2011, 12:07:26: cant wait to press every key on my keyboard at the same time
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Post by: Balgrog on Wed, 23 November 2011, 12:13:39: Pretty cool that it is using reds, good see that in a more mainstream board, big companies (razer) usually use blues because it is the biggest different from rubber and it makes that fancy loud clicking sound.

edit for terrible typing
Title: Qpad mk-85
Post by: trax on Wed, 23 November 2011, 13:20:50: xArmor only has browns/reds (same keyboard) but they are around $100

http://www.ergogeek.com/xarmor.html
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Post by: rfy on Wed, 23 November 2011, 14:51:44: test
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Post by: pitashen on Wed, 23 November 2011, 16:11:56: I was gonna make a thread out of this matter. They claim world's first USB NKRO? REALLY!?

They really are exploiting the category of "gaming" mechanical keyboard to the max eh?
Title: Qpad mk-85
Post by: pitashen on Wed, 23 November 2011, 16:16:46: Quote from: ripster;458430
Microsoft Sidewinder X4 was the first. Makes sense. You've got all the muscle of Microsoft R&D behind it.

They did say first USB NKRO for gaming mechanical... but that is still some shameless ignorant statement..
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Post by: Soarer on Wed, 23 November 2011, 16:30:27: Sidewinder X4 only had 17KRO.
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Post by: pitashen on Wed, 23 November 2011, 16:37:37: It is sad that these keyboard venders have to rely on such thing as NKRO/1000Hz pulling rate to market their keyboards.
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Post by: Soarer on Wed, 23 November 2011, 16:38:43: Quote from: ripster;458447
Good enough.

Fingers and most toes.

How predictable... and irrelevant. It's still incorrect to call it NKRO.
Title: Qpad mk-85
Post by: Soarer on Wed, 23 November 2011, 16:56:25: Quote from: ripster;458451
OK. You're right. NKRO>18KRO.

But still it's pedantry. 6KRO is good enough. >18KRO is complete ****ing overkill.
I know, but that's a different discussion!

The reasons I like NKRO (using full speed USB) are simplicity, reliability and compatibility - in general the tricks that get >6KRO using low speed USB are flawed (although I admit the X4 is pretty good).
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Post by: Fred on Fri, 25 November 2011, 12:07:14: MK-85 and MK-50 are two of the very few ISO boards with mx reds, which makes them kinda cool. The MK-50 is also one of the cheaper mechanicals I've seen, landing on $115 here. Might get one as a christmas present (not to myself, unfortunately).
Title: Qpad mk-85
Post by: Tator Tot on Sat, 26 November 2011, 02:53:39: Just cause someone pointed me here, this board is using the same controller that other boards have been using to achieve that "full NKRO over USB." Though, not to stir the bush, but it's the "only 18KRO over USB" one.

I'm inclined to agree with Ripster on the elementary level, that 18KRO = NKRO for all intents and purposes.

Accurate marketing? Sorta.

They're not lying and they're not being deciteful so I don't think it's a case in which enthusiasts should care too much.
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Post by: pitashen on Sat, 26 November 2011, 03:02:06: Quote from: Tator Tot;459135
Just cause someone pointed me here, this board is using the same controller that other boards have been using to achieve that "full NKRO over USB." Though, not to stir the bush, but it's the "only 18KRO over USB" one.

I'm inclined to agree with Ripster on the elementary level, that 18KRO = NKRO for all intents and purposes.

Accurate marketing? Sorta.

They're not lying and they're not being deciteful so I don't think it's a case in which enthusiasts should care too much.

I would argue that 6KRO = NKRO for 99% of us... I wonder where that 1% goes... guess they are those who doesn't even bother using keyboards.
Title: Qpad mk-85
Post by: Soarer on Sat, 26 November 2011, 05:35:13: Quote from: Tator Tot;459135
Just cause someone pointed me here, this board is using the same controller that other boards have been using to achieve that "full NKRO over USB." Though, not to stir the bush, but it's the "only 18KRO over USB" one.

There is no common "only 18KRO over USB" device that multiple keyboards are using - it's a myth!

Do you have any evidence to support the claim that it isn't really NKRO?

Quote from: Tator Tot;459135
I'm inclined to agree with Ripster on the elementary level, that 18KRO = NKRO for all intents and purposes.

I agree with that too, on an elementary level. We do only have 10 fingers. Above 10KRO the only reason to be interested in the details is to see how compatible (with varied OS) the method will be - that's a lot more important than exactly how many KRO it supports. But, the exact KRO gives us a clue to what method is used.

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Accurate marketing? Sorta.

They're not lying and they're not being deciteful so I don't think it's a case in which enthusiasts should care too much.

They would be lying though. Facts are facts. It's illegal in most places to sell stuff based on false claims - that's why the small print on e.g. NKRO Filcos: "NKRO over PS/2, USB limited to 6KRO" or similar, even though the banner says NKRO. If a keyboard didn't support NKRO over any interface, it would be false advertising to say NKRO anywhere on the advert!
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Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 30 December 2011, 17:09:40: Quote from: ripster;458978
Actually now that The Solutor doesn't post any more...

Nevah say nevah... :)
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Post by: RiGS on Fri, 30 December 2011, 17:10:54: Welcome Back my Italian Friend!!
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Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 30 December 2011, 17:12:51: Hi RiGS... :-)
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Post by: RiGS on Fri, 30 December 2011, 17:20:44: The Rossi Catalyzer just doing okay.
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Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 30 December 2011, 17:31:08: I'm still more skeptical than not, but I must say that if this is a joke, is very well done...
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Post by: woody on Sat, 31 December 2011, 06:19:19: What a tearful reunion.
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Post by: Hydroid on Sat, 31 December 2011, 07:59:06: That red glow is hurting my eyes. -__- Can't believe that 2 years ago I would have been all over it too.
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Post by: skartt on Sat, 31 December 2011, 08:51:16: doesnt the "nkro via usb" implementation impacts all sorts of kvm issues, i just remember my issues with the choc mini.
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Post by: kinruan on Thu, 29 March 2012, 11:54:51: No way to buy it...try the Max keyboard nighthawk x8 and x9
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Post by: The Solutor on Sat, 31 March 2012, 07:42:15: Quote from: ripster;560433
Uh oh.

Repeating keys........aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2275&p=40173#p40173

Where is The Solutor?

Do you mean, people must follow Solutor's suggestions and avoid the USB only keyboards ? :biggrin: