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Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: rfy on Wed, 23 November 2011, 14:53:10
Hey,

how can I use full nkro with Zowie celeritas via USB and NOT Ps2? (My laptop does not have Ps2). I wanna use those 8x function. I heard i need to change HID drivers, but how?

Didnt find anything via search, I am very sorry, totally new to this
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: Demofly on Wed, 23 November 2011, 15:13:34
Impossible

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=USB+versus+PS+2
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: rfy on Wed, 23 November 2011, 15:30:24
Are you sure that I cannot make it any faster? In a review of Zowie  Celiteras it said you must modify the HID driver somehow.

No way I can use those 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x functions via USB/USB-PS2-USB-Adapter?!
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: trax on Wed, 23 November 2011, 15:43:31
Quote from: rfy;458396
Are you sure that I cannot make it any faster? In a review of Zowie  Celiteras it said you must modify the HID driver somehow.

No way I can use those 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x functions via USB/USB-PS2-USB-Adapter?!
No, its 6KRO on USB.
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: pitashen on Wed, 23 November 2011, 16:15:14
No one needs more than 6KRO even under gaming. Prove me wrong that it is not the case for you.
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: rfy on Wed, 23 November 2011, 16:19:38
if you wanna morph 50 baneling at once in starcraft 2 you need it
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: pitashen on Wed, 23 November 2011, 16:22:33
you don't need to press more than 6 keys all together at the same time to morph banelings.

There are Korean SC2 pros who still use DT-35. And it has 2KRO max. enuf said.

And do realize that 6KRO means that u can press say 6 letter keys all at once + the modifiers of your choice.
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: slueth on Wed, 23 November 2011, 16:27:29
Quote from: rfy;458433
if you wanna morph 50 baneling at once in starcraft 2 you need it

so wrong, you just press one button and spam it 50 times that is not the same as 50 different buttons at the same time.
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: pitashen on Wed, 23 November 2011, 16:29:27
Quote from: slueth;458440
so wrong, you just press one button and spam it 50 times that is not the same as 50 different buttons at the same time.

not to mention, if he relies 50+ banelings to win ladder matches, something is wrong with his game plan.
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: pitashen on Wed, 23 November 2011, 16:32:15
Quote from: ripster;458443
You guys are talking about different things.

He's talking about their "Turbo" key.

He still doesn't need turbo keys to morph 50+ banelings

holding onto the E button with the selected lings would do the trick already.

There is something wrong with his way of playing SC2 lol.
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: rfy on Wed, 23 November 2011, 17:29:33
Is this a How to Play SC2-Thread now? I think I know how to play since I am high master...

sure you dont NEED it, but it is still A BIT faster with this Turbo key. Banes are morphing fast but not INSTANT. Dont you understand that I want all the features if I pay 120 euro?!

So, how to activate the turbo keys?!

thanks
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: pitashen on Wed, 23 November 2011, 18:38:47
Quote from: rfy;458475
Dont you understand that I want all the features if I pay 120 euro?!

Fair enough.

Since the zowie board only has 6KRO under USB (unless other wise), you are out of luck if the turbo feature requires NKRO from PS/2. USB technically is designed to be an all purpose port and an inferior port for input devices (a.k.a. keyboard). PS/2 on the other hand is designed with a sole purpose of being an input device port.
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: laffindude on Thu, 24 November 2011, 00:05:22
Quote from: rfy;458475
Dont you understand that I want all the features if I pay 120 euro?!

So, how to activate the turbo keys?!

thanks


Well sucks that you can't read, since it says the turbo response is only available on PS2.
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: HeavyArms on Thu, 24 November 2011, 00:54:29
I smell toast.
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: Oqsy on Thu, 24 November 2011, 08:18:31
Quote
I think I know how to play since I am high master...

LOL!

Almost spit Dr. Pepper all over my screen! I love when ppl drop E-peen on haters so awkwardly...  It's like watching a pair of galapagos tortoises trying to mate.
Title: Zowie celeritas full nkro via usb
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Thu, 24 November 2011, 22:13:29
Quote from: ripster;458499

You don't see many mice users complaining about PS/2 mice not being available.  Those have been jacked up to 1000hz over USB for some time now.


Sure, but it's my understanding that that's the difference between PS/2 for keyboards which is hardware interrupt based, and PS/2 for mice which was always polling, and IIRC was always slower than USB mice. So once it was even at 500hz for mice there was never any reason to want to use mice on PS/2.