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geekhack Community => Keyboards => Topic started by: LEGITBALLIN on Mon, 12 December 2011, 17:55:16

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: LEGITBALLIN on Mon, 12 December 2011, 17:55:16

wikipedia says it does not have a mechanical key switches is it a rubber dome or what?
i have the chance to get one of these for fairly cheap, is it worth it?

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: jkercado on Mon, 12 December 2011, 18:54:47

VTEC kicked in.

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: Findecanor on Mon, 12 December 2011, 18:58:24

Apparently, the switches are not ALPS nor rubber dome, but some cheapo kind of spring over membrane mechanism.
There is a review here (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:9868). I think that what colinstu refers to as "Cherry Clears" are Cherry MY (linear) switches and not "Cherry MX Clear".

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: LEGITBALLIN on Mon, 12 December 2011, 19:16:46

Quote from: Findecanor;469240

Apparently, the switches are not ALPS nor rubber dome, but some cheapo kind of spring over membrane mechanism.
There is a review here (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:9868). I think that what colinstu refers to as "Cherry Clears" are Cherry MY (linear) switches and not "Cherry MX Clear".

so they're topres?:tongue:

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: LEGITBALLIN on Mon, 12 December 2011, 19:19:25

i hate MY switches so im guessing this isnt for me?

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: LEGITBALLIN on Mon, 12 December 2011, 19:28:34

just to tap on for fun i want to expand my keyboard knowledge and to try out different switches and keyboards

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: woody on Tue, 13 December 2011, 06:11:15

Quote from: LEGITBALLIN;469192

wikipedia says it does not have a mechanical key switches is it a rubber dome or what?

Buckling rubber sleeves.

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: Findecanor on Tue, 13 December 2011, 11:29:46

Quote from: ripster;469243

Somebody should do a Apple Keyboard Wiki.

The Apple Keyboard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Keyboard) page on Wikipedia is already quite detailed but it is lacking information about the switches.

Quote from: woody;469537

Buckling rubber sleeves.

No they are not. I had already posted a link to a thread with pictures of the switch (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:9868) above.

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: digitalleftovers on Tue, 13 December 2011, 11:55:53

This is the board that shipped with the Apple LC II (my first desktop).  It also explains why I always thought the dell keyboards at school so much nicer.

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: digitalleftovers on Tue, 13 December 2011, 12:51:23

In Portland, Powells bookstore has a collection of vintage PC's and computer parts.  They have them out where you can touch them.  I've been meaning to ask if the staff removed a key or two from each board or if they were lifted by key thieves.  Their NeXT board is missing a few.

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: digitalleftovers on Tue, 13 December 2011, 13:20:40

Is that Apple key DS or printed?  You're right.  I would totally butcher a NeXT for that key.

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: woody on Wed, 14 December 2011, 02:29:29

Quote from: Findecanor;469717

... (Buckling rubber sleeves) ... No they are not. I had already posted a link to a thread with pictures of the switch (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:9868) above.

How about this then?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]34926[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]34928[/ATTACH]

So far, from my humble observations there were at least these variations:
  A9M0330 had ALPS and Montereys
  M0116 had different ALPS
  M0487 had buckling rubber sleeves and whatever that plastic/spring combo is known as

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: Findecanor on Wed, 14 December 2011, 10:08:48

Those definitely look like Mitsumis ... Hmm... if that is a M0487, then what model is colinstu's keyboard? I interpreted his post as his being a M0487, and his video is very blurry but it looks kinda like "M0487"..

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: woody on Thu, 15 December 2011, 03:44:28

Apple created enough confusion through variation. I still look for A9M0330 "Made in Japan" which features "Yellow Taxi" ALPS because it just rulez over the A9M0330 "Made in Taiwan" with Montereys that I have. How one could sell different keyboards under the same product name ... heh.

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: Gerk on Thu, 15 December 2011, 10:54:25

I could provide images for lots of the recent ones if someone did. Have quite a few models here.

Title: Apple Keyboard II, Family number M0487
Post by: czarek on Thu, 15 December 2011, 14:37:12

Quote from: Gerk;471403

I could provide images for lots of the recent ones if someone did. Have quite a few models here.

I always give away the keyboard that comes with a new Mac I buy to some family members.