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Title: terminal Model Ms - need advice before buying
Post by: edada on Mon, 19 December 2011, 04:37:42
Hello,

I found someone who has about 70kg of Ms for terminal to sell, french azerty. I don't need so much ! I don't ever need terminal keyboard, but this is what I've found :




I'm sure some of you have the knowledge to help me choosing the ones that will best fit my GNU/Linux box after a simple cable swap.

The vendor will give me more informations about the "not IBM" one ; could it be something else than a Lexmark 1397xxx ?

Is it possible to swap IC board of a 1390650 with one from a silent 71G4624 to get a loud enhanced Model M PS/2 keyboard ?
Title: terminal Model Ms - need advice before buying
Post by: KillerBee on Mon, 19 December 2011, 10:01:29
Yes it is possible to swap out boards between the 1390650 and the 71G4624
Title: terminal Model Ms - need advice before buying
Post by: edada on Mon, 19 December 2011, 20:38:55
Thanks KillerBee ! Adding a 1390650 to my cart.

After some research, I believe 13906xx 13907xx and 13908xx are all designed for 319x terminals, and so suitable for cable swap.
I didn't find anything about 1390586 and 1394316.

Quote from: edada;473656
about the "not IBM" one ; could it be something else than a Lexmark 1397xxx ?
I should have say : "could it be something else than a terminal emulator keyboard ?"
Title: terminal Model Ms - need advice before buying
Post by: h2gofast on Tue, 20 December 2011, 15:21:03
edada, could you please post some links to your research about which keyboards would work with a cable swap.
Thank you.
Title: terminal Model Ms - need advice before buying
Post by: edada on Wed, 21 December 2011, 03:42:32
You're right kishy ! I also have to give a great thanks to JohnElliot, firstly about the break-code thing.

h2gofast : you will have nice readings here :
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:7306
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?6770-IBM-1386887-(3179-terminal)-keyboard-conversion

According to kbdbabel.org/conn/index.html keyboards with DIN45322 connector are all in the good list for me (3179/318x/319x).

The 1394316 with "RJ45" is still a mistery for me.
Title: terminal Model Ms - need advice before buying
Post by: h2gofast on Wed, 21 December 2011, 09:25:32
All,
Thanks for the links, they are very helpful...
Title: terminal Model Ms - need advice before buying
Post by: edada on Thu, 22 December 2011, 05:10:44
I only found RJ45 IBM keyboards for 3151 or infowindow (34xx) terminal, that's in the list !

Am I allowed to suppose all these keyboards with DIN or RJ45 are eligible for cable swap ?
Title: terminal Model Ms - need advice before buying
Post by: edada on Thu, 22 December 2011, 05:15:17
Ah ! kishy already answered here :
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:7306&p=475196&viewfull=1#post475196

Thanks !
Title: terminal Model Ms - need advice before buying
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 22 December 2011, 20:34:58
Aww, I want one.

Glad you found your information, though. Also, have you looked into soarer's project on making the XT ones work with a PC?
Title: terminal Model Ms - need advice before buying
Post by: edada on Fri, 23 December 2011, 02:50:02
Quote from: dorkvader;476329
Aww, I want one.
One thousand !

If you live in Europe I may give you the contact, she has beetween 25 and 30 122-keys to sell, 10€ each, I'll just take one or two of these.

I had a quick look at teensy mod, but as a GNU/Linux user I'm ok with a simple cable swap. I'll have other keyboards around when needing to press F11 at boottime ;/