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Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 21 December 2011, 18:45:30
Hello guys! I just received this keyboard from TigerImports. Fast shipping for me since I just next door in Alabama!
I just wanted to give some of my initial impressions of this keyboard.

Pros:
- Embedded Numpad
- Tenkeyless
- Removable USB cable
- Nice Keycaps
- White Alps under Scroll Lock and Caps Lock (I really like the different feel)

Cons:
- Shoddy build quality (Doesn't feel quite as sturdy as my Leopolds or Rosewills)
- Keyboard feet are a pain to get stand up
- MicroUSB connector on keyboard isn't perfectly aligned (yuck)


[video=youtube;lQ6zTOCg1gw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ6zTOCg1gw[/video]

Any questions, Feel free to ask!

Deuces
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: himynameisbunny on Wed, 21 December 2011, 19:28:34
Quote from: ripster;475517
Wow.  I didn't know Noodles could do complete sentences


Neither did I...

I did have my eye on this with the cheap PCHome shipping deal. I then decided I had a problem I needed to see a shrink about.

After that I decided that I promptly bought a HHKB Pro 2 and a Realforce 23UB.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 21 December 2011, 19:43:06
Quote from: ripster;475517
Wow.  I didn't know Noodles could do complete sentences.

My summary.

Ducky kinda sucky, but not ****y.

i have my moments

@dante - yes I enjoy typing on it. Its like the click of cherry blues except not as harsh sounding.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: demik on Wed, 21 December 2011, 22:05:23
do they sound louder than blues in person? im going to buy one off reaper and just wanted to know how loud they were compared to mx blues.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 21 December 2011, 22:30:46
i dont think they are louder than blues. nothing is louder than blues
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: demik on Wed, 21 December 2011, 22:38:46
thanks, shame about the build quality. but it being so cheap, i guess they had to sacrifice somewhere.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 22 December 2011, 00:20:40
Quote from: dante;475604
one last thing --- pretty easy to take the keycaps off on this?

this is actually a good question. These caps are so hard to take off. I am worried about breaking the board when i pull them offf...
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: bbbbqq on Thu, 22 December 2011, 01:01:56
Ever had a buckling spring board ?

These alps are WAY louder than blues.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: demik on Thu, 22 December 2011, 01:16:21
Quote from: noodles256;475639
this is actually a good question. These caps are so hard to take off. I am worried about breaking the board when i pull them offf...

Same thing with my minitouch. I'm always scared of pulling its keycaps because it feels like I'm going to rip the whole switch off.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: flyball on Thu, 22 December 2011, 01:39:24
shoddy build quality? at least the arrow (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?25085-Misaligned-arrow-keys) keys look fine (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?22680-Filco-Camo-build-quality-prob&highlight=arrow+key+alignment)
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: laffindude on Thu, 22 December 2011, 02:57:10
Ping!
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 22 December 2011, 09:09:54
Quote from: flyball;475681
shoddy build quality? at least the arrow (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?25085-Misaligned-arrow-keys) keys look fine (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?22680-Filco-Camo-build-quality-prob&highlight=arrow+key+alignment)

shoddy
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 22 December 2011, 10:03:31
I guess you will find out today!
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 22 December 2011, 17:50:44
blues are more harsh sounding imo. i will be getting cm quickfire in blues whenever it comes out so i will be able to compare
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: demik on Thu, 22 December 2011, 19:28:23
would it be possible to switch these alps with the switches in a minitouch?
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: demik on Thu, 22 December 2011, 19:45:07
i do have a spare minitouch... but i think somebody else is trying this already.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 22 December 2011, 20:29:48
good luck with that mod hehe
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 22 December 2011, 23:28:17
i still dont think they are louder than blues
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: sordna on Fri, 23 December 2011, 00:00:08
Argh, am I on Deskthority or something? Where's the nickels? I can't believe nobody brought up rip-o-metering this yet. Can you please measure a few keys including modifiers and the spacebar, I'm interested to see how the actuation force compares to blues.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: sordna on Fri, 23 December 2011, 00:48:16
some vibration, like knocking the table will "break" the tactility without affecting the spring measurement ... I think that's what ripster means by dithering.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: hashbaz on Fri, 23 December 2011, 00:50:11
Super excited to get mine now.  It will be waiting for me when I return to work in January.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: Demofly on Fri, 23 December 2011, 14:12:30
What color are the capslock and num-lock key switches?
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: sordna on Fri, 23 December 2011, 15:55:51
I'm not the keyboard Oracle, but I'm pretty sure he means the LED color.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: sordna on Fri, 23 December 2011, 15:57:10
I'm not the keyboard Oracle, but I suspect he is probably asking about the LED color.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: noodles256 on Fri, 23 December 2011, 18:28:08
they are white
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: bbbbqq on Fri, 23 December 2011, 23:31:14
Yeah, the caps and scroll lock are very much linear. The only feedback you get is the feel of grit.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 05 January 2012, 21:13:58
Got mine yesterday.  All in all I'm happy for the money it cost.  Yes the keys wobble a bit and yes the case won't sit flat on my desk.  But I like the feel of the green Alps, and their ridiculous noise.  Linear Caps Lock and Num Lock is puzzling, and actually pretty annoying since I have Caps remapped to something that I use constantly.  Nevertheless it's a fun board to have around for when I'm feeling like being loud.

One puzzling thing is that when I plug it into my Windows machine via a USB extension cable, I see its lights flash and hear the telltale "byeow byeow" that tells me Windows has found new hardware, but typing produces no output.  If I plug it into a USB port directly, all is well.  The keyboard works fine through an extension cable on my Linux machine at work, and it even works fine on my machine at home before Windows loads (e.g., changing BIOS settings and using my boot menu).

Any ideas?
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: Quarzac on Thu, 05 January 2012, 21:30:02
Quote from: hashbaz;484261
Got mine yesterday.  All in all I'm happy for the money it cost.  Yes the keys wobble a bit and yes the case won't sit flat on my desk.  But I like the feel of the green Alps, and their ridiculous noise.  Linear Caps Lock and Num Lock is puzzling, and actually pretty annoying since I have Caps remapped to something that I use constantly.  Nevertheless it's a fun board to have around for when I'm feeling like being loud.

One puzzling thing is that when I plug it into my Windows machine via a USB extension cable, I see its lights flash and hear the telltale "byeow byeow" that tells me Windows has found new hardware, but typing produces no output.  If I plug it into a USB port directly, all is well.  The keyboard works fine through an extension cable on my Linux machine at work, and it even works fine on my machine at home before Windows loads (e.g., changing BIOS settings and using my boot menu).

Any ideas?

I presume you tried turning it off and then on again? I would try going to the device manager, uninstalling the default windows drivers for the USB controller, reboot, and let them reinstall. If that doesn't work, try installing the drivers given by your motherboard manufacturer.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 05 January 2012, 21:54:22
Quote from: dante;484266
no ideas but I would be very curious to hear your opinion on whether you feel the XM Green or Cherry Blue are louder.

I would definitely go with the XM Green.  Pressing keys one at a time, it's hard to say which is louder.  But typing at full speed there's no question.  The Ducky is a clickety-clackety beast (which I love).
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: NorrisB on Thu, 05 January 2012, 22:07:14
this is a very solid feeling board Im quite happy with it.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: hashbaz on Wed, 11 January 2012, 22:38:05
This has become my main home keyboard, for now at least.  After a couple of weeks of use, I'm a big fan.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 11 January 2012, 22:58:15
I defintely love the feel of this board. Soliddddddd
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: bbbbqq on Thu, 12 January 2012, 00:25:25
Quote from: ripster;484325
But does it ping?


it pings harder, faster, and more often than a cherry
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: noodles256 on Thu, 12 January 2012, 00:45:15
and stronger
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: NorrisB on Thu, 12 January 2012, 13:01:32
FYI- The keys bottum out at 50g, exactly the same as blue cherry and has the tactile click of blue cherry.

I have it, and its ok, Im thinking of replacing it actually with a Filco Majestouch2 as Im curious how it does against cherry blue, my only other mechanical keyboard was a Dell AT101 and its a big upgrade on that, the keys feel a little wobbly and the space bar is not even and the keys feel a little too slick (McRip effect?). Wondering how it is for people that have other keyboards and this also as this was my 2nd mechanical.
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: Magna224 on Fri, 13 January 2012, 01:51:31
So this doesn't even touch the Filco Zero?
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: sordna on Thu, 19 January 2012, 13:29:43
Are the switches on this 1087XM keyboard plate mounted or PCB mounted?
Title: Ducky 1087XM w/ green alps First Impressions
Post by: laffindude on Thu, 19 January 2012, 13:38:18
Plate mounted.