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Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: piken on Tue, 27 December 2011, 09:12:17
I have made the decision to get one of the following and want to know the GH thoughts on them.

Rosewill with browns or reds

Leopold with browns or reds

I don't mind full size or tenkeyless (That is not a decision factor.)

I have 2 Filco boards right now and I am very happy with them, but the boards are expensive and I want to try an reduce the cost of the new board if possible.

I know Rosewill are made by costar and even the control board is marked filco, so I know the quality of the board.

How do the Leopold boards compare. I have heard mixed reviews of them on the forms here and can't determine if I should take the leap to try one.

I will be able to get either of these boards for the same price, about 115 shipped. So I would prefer to make the purchase based on quality.

Are there any differences between these boards that can be pointed out?
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: Human on Tue, 27 December 2011, 09:58:14
If price factor is being factored out, over 90% of ppl in GeekHack will sure ask you go for Rosewill as its quality is more assured.

Leopold's built quality is also quite superb from what I being heard so far. The major downside/risk are the stiff stabilisers and some random problems on controller.

p/s: If by any means you are looking for higher KRO(over 6) over USB, Leopold are for you then.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: piken on Tue, 27 December 2011, 10:54:07
It is my understanding that the Rosewill is the same as the original majetouch.

Is this correct or is it the same as the majetouch 2? The boards I currently have are Majetouch2 and I like them a lot. But not really sure of the differences between the 2.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: noodles256 on Tue, 27 December 2011, 10:55:42
i like rosewill
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: ktkr on Tue, 27 December 2011, 11:05:47
Do you want a fugly logo? If yes, go Rosewill.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: piken on Tue, 27 December 2011, 11:08:43
Quote from: ktkr;478388
Do you want a fugly logo? If yes, go Rosewill.

Letting a logo design make your decision in which board to buy is pretty vain.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: Human on Tue, 27 December 2011, 11:24:01
Quote from: piken;478393
Letting a logo design make your decision in which board to buy is pretty vain.

Not really, at least at GH.
Some random picture I saved from GH last time.
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Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: bienc on Tue, 27 December 2011, 11:45:30
I have no problems with the Rosewill logo. Looks fine to me, if it a bit big. I do love the red board behind the keys though. Brings everything together nicely.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: NorrisB on Tue, 27 December 2011, 11:47:47
Yes the Rosewill is a clone of the original majetouch.  Is there anyway to get rid of that fugly Rosewill logo?
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: piken on Tue, 27 December 2011, 11:49:07
Quote from: NorrisB;478423
Yes the Rosewill is a clone of the original majetouch.  Is there anyway to get rid of that fugly Rosewill logo?

What are the differences between the original majetouch and the majetouch 2?
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: dimoniy on Tue, 27 December 2011, 12:17:23
Both boards are good, so don't over-think it. Just pick the best deal you can find.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: NorrisB on Tue, 27 December 2011, 12:22:21
Quote from: piken;478424
What are the differences between the original majetouch and the majetouch 2?

The LEDs are a little dimmed on the new one but thats all she wrote.  Heres a post from "opsy" that summarizes the differences:

Except for external appearance stuff and the detachable cables, it's identical to a Filco. The only differences I've found from my previous tenkeyless mj2 are:

1. Detachable mini USB to USB cable and mini usb to PS/2 cable. (point rosewill)
2. Logo(half a point Filco)
3. Painted plate (wash)
4. Raised legends on the key caps (thicker infill?) (wash, both are thin flimsy junk caps, but if it IS infill on the Rosewill, it will likely be a bit tougher than Filco's trash keycaps)
5. No rubber "condoms" on the fold-out feet. (point Filco)
*6. Numpad present.
*7. MX blues
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: piken on Tue, 27 December 2011, 13:12:09
Quote from: ripster;478466
You mean Leopold vs Filco Gen 2.


That was good info to know, but I was trying to find out the difference between my majestouch2 and the majestouch to determine if I loose anything going with the rosewill over the leopold, or saying screw it and buy the majestouch2 ninja with browns for more money and call it a day.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: telepete on Tue, 27 December 2011, 17:26:22
Never used a Leopold. I like my Rosewill tho.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: jellowiggler on Tue, 27 December 2011, 19:22:04
Quote from: ripster;478481
Majestouch Gen1/Gen2 and the Rosewill Gen1/Gen2 are two separate keyboards.  Same OEM does not mean same keyboard.

For example iPads are made by many OEMs which make other tablets.

It is true that oems build many products to different specs in the same facility.

But the Rosewill boards actually say filco on the controller pcb, and the pcb of the keyboard.  There is definitely a closer link than say a Samsung and Sony 40" LCD tv. (same glass, different processing)

Maybe they built more boards than filco was willing to buy?
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: Greenbean on Tue, 27 December 2011, 20:03:43
Quote from: ripster;478647
Just buy the Ninja.  You won't get any street cred with a Rosewill.

Although I DID just learn a different way to cover up that fugly logo from my buddies at OCN!
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I don't get it.

You can always paint the board and hope for the best.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: jkercado on Tue, 27 December 2011, 22:37:57
Street cred? Wtf, we're talking keyboards, you nerds. Me included.
Sent from my Samsung Focus using Board Express
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: scarhawk on Tue, 27 December 2011, 23:08:22
I got a Rosewill yesterday. You could always just put a sticker on it. Not a big deal.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: mouse.the.lucky.dog on Wed, 28 December 2011, 03:04:50
Quote from: ripster;478647
Just buy the Ninja.  You won't get any street cred with a Rosewill.

Being a geek means that you don't give a flying f*** about street cred. In fact you get more street cred for blowing off the street cred then you lose for the Rosewill.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: jkercado on Wed, 28 December 2011, 14:32:34
Quote from: ripster;478763
Speak for yourself.

Sent without a nerd default mobile setting.

Nerd. And proud of it. Some people here are in denial. Hehe.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: jkercado on Wed, 28 December 2011, 15:39:32
Quote from: ripster;479155
Hey, you learned how to turn off your Mobile sig!

Congrats!

Uh, I posted that from my PC. >_> :becky:

Who's Becky, anyway?
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: noodles256 on Wed, 28 December 2011, 15:41:49
Quote from: jkercado;479157
Uh, I posted that from my PC. >_> :becky:

Who's Becky, anyway?

he meant benny hanna
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: jkercado on Wed, 28 December 2011, 16:01:50
Quote from: noodles256;479159
he meant benny hanna

No, this ==> :becky: is called : becky :.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: jkercado on Wed, 28 December 2011, 16:39:44
My looney bun is fine, Benny Lava.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: jkercado on Wed, 28 December 2011, 17:55:33
Do you have more detailed info?
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: piken on Thu, 29 December 2011, 07:12:14
Quote from: ripster;479199
You sure go off topic a lot.

Did I mention the "Leopold wait" idea?


No you did not, but I read it yesterday in another post by you. I am thinking of waiting till Feb to buy the board now to see if they do release a new model.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: Zamorph on Thu, 29 December 2011, 12:26:03
Quote from: ripster;478466

1000 hz over USB for Filco - 1ms delay..

 Whats the rate for a leopold?
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: Human on Thu, 29 December 2011, 12:34:43
Quote from: Zamorph;479660
Whats the rate for a leopold?

Not stated(but normal USB mouse is 250Hz) but who really care? Like you can type faster than it, or even notice it?

Or if you are still skeptical bout it, better use PS/2 connection, no polling involved.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: scarhawk on Thu, 29 December 2011, 22:01:22
Just got my RK-9000 in the mail today (my first mechanical KB) and damn am I happy with it :D
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: iBro on Thu, 29 December 2011, 23:29:43
Quote from: piken;478393
Letting a logo design make your decision in which board to buy is pretty vain.


You are speaking to a forum where many of the members spend 100$+ on new colored key caps to replace the perfectly good key caps that are on their potentially overpriced keyboard.

Vanity is practically required here.
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 31 December 2011, 05:33:55
Quote from: jellowiggler;478641
It is true that oems build many products to different specs in the same facility.

But the Rosewill boards actually say filco on the controller pcb, and the pcb of the keyboard.  There is definitely a closer link than say a Samsung and Sony 40" LCD tv. (same glass, different processing)

Maybe they built more boards than filco was willing to buy?

The new ones dont say filco that was the v1
Title: Rosewill vs Leopold.
Post by: lightsout714 on Sat, 31 December 2011, 12:00:25
Quote from: iBro;480006
You are speaking to a forum where many of the members spend 100$+ on new colored key caps to replace the perfectly good key caps that are on their potentially overpriced keyboard.

Vanity is practically required here.

Lol I agree.