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Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Mon, 02 January 2012, 11:02:39
Don't know if they are mechanical as I cannot find infomation on it but here it is. Nice caps if they are though.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Access-Keyboard-EPoS-Keyboard-/220912768508?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_KeyboardsMice&hash=item336f6d55fc
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: AMoody on Mon, 02 January 2012, 11:03:52
they are plate mounted blacks.  Access offers some really cool layouts also
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Mon, 02 January 2012, 11:05:02
Are they defiantly mechanical then?
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Mon, 02 January 2012, 11:41:19
They use signature plastics to produce the keys.

One of the reasons for the high cost is that they will program the 'board and fit keycaps depending on your needs.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 02 January 2012, 12:51:52
Damn... dirt cheap for those. One of you Brits want to proxy me one? Seller won't post outside UK.

edit:Proxy taken care of. Thanks fossala.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: REVENGE on Mon, 02 January 2012, 19:16:45
Like I said, GB always gets the best **** when it comes to POS gear.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: sordna on Mon, 02 January 2012, 19:44:08
if you ever see any AKC048 anywhere, let me know!
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: telepete on Tue, 03 January 2012, 00:13:16
Anyone in the UK wanna bounce one of these to me in Canada? Neat looking unit. Feel free to PM.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Tue, 03 January 2012, 06:39:20
There are a lot of pm's regarding me proxying these. I can get 10 and they will be costing me 7.50gbp each (including shipping to me). I have 5 sold already (I will be pm'ing you guys in a minuite) anyone else want any I pm me.

I will be charging in 2 lots, first for the products then when I have the keyboards I will be collecting for the shipping ( exactly what it costs me).
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Tue, 03 January 2012, 07:07:06
UPDATE: She won't take down until money is received. I have received money from 2 people (3 boards).
EDIT: She has taken them down for me/us in good faith.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 03 January 2012, 11:14:01
Thanks fossala. I sent my payment as soon as I received your PM. If you don't "sell out" of your ten, I may take another one, 'cause this is a really awesome price.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Tue, 03 January 2012, 11:22:04
I'm not taking anymore orders until I get them in my hands. There should be some spares but I don't want to of accidentally missed anyone. I have paid for the extras out of my pocket but I am sure I will to get rid of them at these prices.
Orders are:
2x Pyro (PAID)
2x Dorkvader (PAID)
1x kbdfr (PAID)
1x bootstrap (PAID)
1x telepete (PAID)
1x for me (PAID) ;)

Should have 3 spare. And I will tell people the shipping costs after I have taken them down the post office.

EDIT/UPDATE: She is shipping them tomorrow, next day delivery. Will sort them out over the weekend and get them down to the post office for quotes.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: Hzza on Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:01:40
I got mine today, I'll post some pics up after dinner but first impressions are pretty good. Nice keycaps and I quite like the black switches and the matrix layout, only real problem with the board in the spacebar feels real heavy. I haven't had a chance to look at it yet but I think if it is a black switch under there, it's broken...
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:15:10
Awesome, the ones I have ordered for everyone is turning up tomorrow. Looking forward to see pics.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: Hzza on Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:19:52
Anything in particular you're interested in? I'll do backshots of some of the coloured caps and the spacebar and then take some requests.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:22:41
Are they double shot? Have you tried the programing software.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:42:12
multi unit keys go over multiple switch on these, so space is 2 switch which is why it feels so heavy.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: Hzza on Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:44:09
Definatly doubleshot, I've got a comparison pic next to a vintage Cherry doubleshot.

Haven't had a chance to play around with the software yet

(http://i.imgur.com/S5Jbuh.jpg)
Next to my Filco, quite a bit smaller.

(http://i.imgur.com/I2KtFh.jpg)
Close up on some of the keys, turns out the space is so heavy because it's over 2 keys :P, also note the lack of nubs/deep dishness on the F and J keys.

And the comparison shots, Q key from the Filco and the Access
(http://i.imgur.com/e7eUUh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rQBcPh.jpg)

Any more requests? I'm off out for a bit now but will check back and upload more (if needed) later on.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:45:13
Quote from: Hzza;483182
I got mine today, I'll post some pics up after dinner but first impressions are pretty good. Nice keycaps and I quite like the black switches and the matrix layout, only real problem with the board in the spacebar feels real heavy. I haven't had a chance to look at it yet but I think if it is a black switch under there, it's broken...
I bet you'll find two switches.  Could be worse, it could be a quad key...  If you replace the double key with two singles, you'll find one doesn't do anything - otherwise you'd get two spaces every time you hit the key.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:46:28
Thanks, they look lovely.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:51:31
I remember a place I worked at used Access with 4unit square for the enter/total button. You had to punch that thing.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:57:03
Next problem is the programming.  


There's a template in softprog that looks like it's the one - difficult to say until I see the label on the back.  

Hzza, could you take a picture of the label, please?

If the keyboard doesn't like the reprogramming - it might brick - not completely as it should be possible to program again - but brick as in hitting the keys doesn't produce anything.  I'm willing to volunteer mine for medical experiments when it arrives.  There's no point in us trashing all of them.

To reprogram - you'll need a computer with ps/2 built into the motherboard - a usb adapter simply won't cut it.  You'll also need administrator access on the PC.
 
Hzza, are all of the function keys doubleshot?  Access has a nasty habit of mixing...  

Looking at the legends I'd guess they came from the same company that owed the akc090 that I've bought from the same seller.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:58:43
One buyer only wants the keycaps and is letting me keep the unit (to save on postage). I will donate that for "science".
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:59:40
Quote from: lysol;483223
I remember a place I worked at used Access with 4unit square for the enter/total button. You had to punch that thing.

I've recently sent Access an email suggesting that they use cherry reds.  None of the users are really going to notice the difference on the single keys, but it'll really be noticeable on the double and quad keys.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Wed, 04 January 2012, 12:59:42
Quote from: lysol;483223
I remember a place I worked at used Access with 4unit square for the enter/total button. You had to punch that thing.

I have an 96 tipro board with a 4 key enter button, it makes me cry.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 04 January 2012, 13:00:52
Quote from: fossala;483232
One buyer only wants the keycaps and is letting me keep the unit (to save on postage). I will donate that for "science".

Great!  Saves me potentially trashing a perfectly good keyboard.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 04 January 2012, 13:21:37
Good idea, but I doubt they will change from black. It's the go to switch for POS and Industrial boards. Change is bad, or so it seems.
Programming them isn't too bad. I still recommend doing it on old systems with a dedicated keyboard ps/2, not one of the new combo keyboard/mouse ones. Use XP whenever possible so no fighting the os permission levels for direct hardware access. I haven't used the software in awhile, and it may have improved but I know old systems with XP work. Had problems with new combo ports on 7 last time I had to program one.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: Hzza on Wed, 04 January 2012, 13:22:10
Thanks fossala/hoggy, I'll post pics of the label when I get home later and I'll also check the rest of the function keys. Is there a particular model number that the programming works with?
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 04 January 2012, 14:36:59
Quote from: Hzza;483264
Thanks fossala/hoggy, I'll post pics of the label when I get home later and I'll also check the rest of the function keys. Is there a particular model number that the programming works with?

I'm hoping for K0720002 - but it might still be compatible even if it doesn't have that number on it.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: Hzza on Wed, 04 January 2012, 16:16:29
Labels
(http://i.imgur.com/IPMPJh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Flykih.jpg)

I've also checked another load of function keys and they all seem to be doubleshots, not promising anything though as I'm currently using 2 bent paperclips and cap removers and they tend to dig into your fingers after a while...
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: kbdfr on Thu, 05 January 2012, 02:00:41
Quote from: fossala;483232
One buyer only wants the keycaps and is letting me keep the unit (to save on postage). I will donate that for "science".


Quote from: hoggy;483239
Great!  Saves me potentially trashing a perfectly good keyboard.


I'm glad to be able to contribute to "science" - but well, since typing on a Tipro, I don't really need an Access ;-)

And fossala, if you happen to have one spare keyboard, I would be interested in taking a second set of keys and again leaving the keyboard with you.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Thu, 05 January 2012, 08:06:53
Just turned up and I will pack them tomorrow and take them down the post office to get weighed on Sat. Some bad news not all are 100% doubleshot from the hand full I have checked a-z are always doubleshot. Don't know how to decide who gets what, any ideas?
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: pyro on Thu, 05 January 2012, 08:44:50
It would probably be easiest to leave them as they are and let the dice decide who gets what.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Thu, 05 January 2012, 08:52:33
They are programable. Just selected k0720002 and it worked. I will take pictures when the misses comes home as I cannot find the camera.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: kbdfr on Thu, 05 January 2012, 08:53:06
Quote from: fossala;483746
Just turned up and I will pack them tomorrow and take them down the post office to get weighed on Sat. Some bad news not all are 100% doubleshot from the hand full I have checked a-z are always doubleshot. Don't know how to decide who gets what, any ideas?


Difficult issue.
Perhaps the first ones to specifiy they want 100% doubleshots (which I am doing here) should get them :biggrin:

On a more serious note: I wrote today I wanted a second set of keys precisely because from the postings here the "unusual" keys were supposed to be doubleshots...
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Thu, 05 January 2012, 09:11:06
On a lot they are but not enough sets for everyone. So you may be lucky and get a 100% doubleshot set but you won't be able to have 2.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Thu, 05 January 2012, 09:25:45
I'm happy to take up a few unwanted boards - with or without keys.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: kbdfr on Thu, 05 January 2012, 09:31:58
Well, if this way I can be sure that at least one of them is going to be 100% doubleshots, then I'll take two.
And let you guys have the boards ;-)
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Thu, 05 January 2012, 09:53:12
From what I can see 5 are 100% double shot the rest are part double shot.
I am about to roll some dice to see who gets what.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Thu, 05 January 2012, 09:59:39
pyro - 2x doubleshot
lysol - 1x doubleshot
kbdfr - 1x doubleshot
bootstrap - 1x semi-doubleshot
dorkvader - 1x semi-doubleshot 1x doubleshot
telepete - 1x semi-doubleshot

Will take pictures in a min.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Thu, 05 January 2012, 10:24:53
Boards on the left are the 100% doubleshot.
(http://i.imgur.com/d4Z2Jl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/UnCDpl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/KhuGEl.jpg)

I have 2 keycap less keyboards still for sale. hoggy gets first choice as he has shown intreast. The first one is like the other boards but without keycaps. The other one is the one pictured.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 05 January 2012, 10:41:44
Looking forward to playing with how I want to set up the layout. I'm planning on using mine as a special setup with macros for traktor. Look like they are all in good shape and relatively clean. Thats a nice change from the typical state I get POS stuff in.
Happy to be getting all doubleshots. I assume some of the colorful ones are the keys that are not?
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: Hzza on Thu, 05 January 2012, 10:50:06
Still haven't decided what to use mine for just yet, I'll probably mod 2 switches to ghetto reds for the space bar and try it as my work board.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Thu, 05 January 2012, 11:08:19
(http://i.imgur.com/RsoA0l.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/tEcgWl.jpg)
I have added some regenable keycaps that I will be using to lauch aplications.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: Hzza on Thu, 05 January 2012, 11:59:41
That's awesome :P
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Thu, 05 January 2012, 14:29:40
Nice, they complement each other really well!
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 05 January 2012, 17:19:25
Which keys aren't doubleshot? I would REALLY like that green f10 key to be doubleshot on both of my boards.

I'm ambivalent about modifiers and the numpad.

Thanks again fossala!
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: telepete on Thu, 05 January 2012, 21:11:21
Ya hopefully those colored f keys are doubleshot :(
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Fri, 06 January 2012, 01:49:19
Sorry guys it is the f-keys and numpad that are mainly un-doubleshot.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 06 January 2012, 10:23:41
Anyone want to trade their F10 key for an un-doubleshot version?

Fossala: When're you shipping them out? I'm so excited.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Fri, 06 January 2012, 10:41:52
Well I just have a new job so if everyone can pay the shipping by Tuesday I can get them out when I finish.
I will know the price on Saturday (tomorrow)
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Fri, 06 January 2012, 12:40:54
Quote from: dorkvader;484667
Anyone want to trade their F10 key for an un-doubleshot version?

My girlfriend said you can have hers as she doesn't care about doubleshots.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 06 January 2012, 15:02:11
Oh thanks, that'd be great! You have an excellent girlfriend!
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Fri, 06 January 2012, 15:05:18
Quote from: dorkvader;484888
Oh thanks, that'd be great! You have an excellent girlfriend!

Well we have a son and she has put up with me for 6 years so yeah, she must be.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Sat, 07 January 2012, 05:24:42
I have sent pm to everyone with the postage cost. As I said in the emails can you gift or pay the paypal fee as I have had to pay all the fees for the boards payments and have lost money sorting all this out.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: bootstrap on Sat, 07 January 2012, 06:20:06
I haven't bought or sold much here, but since joining Geekhack a few months back, I got the impression that the (sometimes unstated) convention was for the buyer to be responsible for the PayPal fee (or an additional 3%). That's how it's worked for all my transactions with Geekhackers - as a buyer or seller - regardless of whether this was made explicit. No exceptions - I just checked my PayPal account.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Sat, 07 January 2012, 06:23:27
Quote from: bootstrap;485291
I haven't bought or sold much here, but since joining Geekhack a few months back, I got the impression that the (sometimes unstated) convention was for the buyer to be responsible for the PayPal fee (or an additional 3%). That's how it's worked for all my transactions with Geekhackers - as a buyer or seller - regardless of whether this was made explicit. No exceptions - I just checked my PayPal account.
That's what I thought but other people obviously didn't. A bit annoying as I am doing this as a favor and haven't made a single penny (actually because of paypal fees I'm about 3gbp out of pocket).
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: bootstrap on Sat, 07 January 2012, 08:59:14
Quote from: fossala;485292
That's what I thought but other people obviously didn't. A bit annoying as I am doing this as a favor and haven't made a single penny (actually because of paypal fees I'm about 3gbp out of pocket).

C'mon guys, let's do the right thing - it's not too late to make up the difference. Awfully kind of Fossala to do this.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Sat, 07 January 2012, 09:05:17
Well earlier today pyro gave me a "tip" that was more than genrous so now I am not out off pocket. Thanks.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 07 January 2012, 09:59:08
Quote from: bootstrap;485308
C'mon guys, let's do the right thing - it's not too late to make up the difference. Awfully kind of Fossala to do this.
I was planning on doing just that. Is there a way to check with paypal how much of your money the seller will receive? I though they had a feature like that, but I didn't see it this time.

Let's hope the British international post is good :)
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Sat, 07 January 2012, 10:21:17
Quote from: dorkvader;485330
I was planning on doing just that. Is there a way to check with paypal how much of your money the seller will receive? I though they had a feature like that, but I didn't see it this time.

Let's hope the British international post is good :)

I send things fairly often, it normally takes just under 2 weeks.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Mon, 09 January 2012, 13:12:05
Fossala,

I've just got two of these boards from ebay , the one with 100% double shots has a black plug.  The one with a mixture is from a later batch and has a purple plug.  Does that match with your batch?  if so, we could have a way of cherry picking the 100% doubleshot 'boards from the seller...
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Mon, 09 January 2012, 13:56:52
Quote from: hoggy;486703
Fossala,

I've just got two of these boards from ebay , the one with 100% double shots has a black plug.  The one with a mixture is from a later batch and has a purple plug.  Does that match with your batch?  if so, we could have a way of cherry picking the 100% doubleshot 'boards from the seller...
Yep seems to be.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: Hzza on Tue, 10 January 2012, 04:07:40
Sorry to ruin the theory but mine has a purple plug and is 100% doubleshot.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Tue, 10 January 2012, 14:53:44
I am sorry but my girlfriend was supposed to post the boards today as I am busy with work, but she is ill. I have organised my brother to come by tomorrow to drop them down the post office. Sorry about the delay I was just not expecting to start a new job.
They are all packed up and should be in the post by midday tomorrow.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Tue, 10 January 2012, 15:18:22
No worries - thanks for the update, though.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 10 January 2012, 16:28:30
That's okay, thanks for the update fossala. I figure, I'm okay to wait on international shipping, a few extra days won't hurt.

Tell your girlfriend to get well soon :)

Good luck with your job. I'm upping to full-time emplayment soon, which will be fun.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: Icarium on Tue, 10 January 2012, 17:55:14
So if I want to get an Access from ebay what should I watch out for? Which models are good?
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 10 January 2012, 19:33:45
Here's the ones I'm interested in.

http://www.access-is.com/programmable_pos_keyboard.php

Keep in mind ebay.co.uk is better for this sort of thing.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: kbdfr on Wed, 11 January 2012, 00:33:26
Quote from: fossala;487457
I am sorry but my girlfriend was supposed to post the boards today as I am busy with work, but she is ill. I have organised my brother to come by tomorrow to drop them down the post office. Sorry about the delay I was just not expecting to start a new job.
They are all packed up and should be in the post by midday tomorrow.


Thanks for the update- and for involving your whole family ;-)
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: kbdfr on Wed, 11 January 2012, 00:39:43
Quote from: dorkvader;487612
Here's the ones I'm interested in.

http://www.access-is.com/programmable_pos_keyboard.php

Keep in mind ebay.co.uk is better for this sort of thing.


If you mean something like that:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqEOKooE32)C!2duBOEc)(NUCw~~_12.JPG)

then:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270777069921 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270777069921)
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: Icarium on Wed, 11 January 2012, 03:46:21
What I would really like is an AKC048 to build a split keyboard from it....
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 11 January 2012, 09:32:59
Quote from: Icarium;487849
What I would really like is an AKC048 to build a split keyboard from it....
That's what I'm doing with mine. It's only a little longer.

kbdfr: no, I'm just "generally interested" in the ones on that page, though I do think I'd like the matrix ones more.
http://www.access-is.com/programmable_pos_keyboard.php#EPOS_Matrix
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: Icarium on Wed, 11 January 2012, 10:32:52
hm...x-keys also has stuff that could be used to build a split keyboard
does anybody know if it's good?
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 11 January 2012, 12:55:32
Quote from: kbdfr;487791
If you mean something like that:

Show Image
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqEOKooE32)C!2duBOEc)(NUCw~~_12.JPG)


then:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270777069921 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270777069921)

Looks nice.  I'd bet the function keys on the right side aren't doubleshot, but it's likely that the rest are.  If you're thinking of re-programming then it's important to check that there's a suitable template in softprog first.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: kbdfr on Wed, 11 January 2012, 13:50:21
Quote from: hoggy;488081
Show Image
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqEOKooE32)C!2duBOEc)(NUCw~~_12.JPG)


Looks nice. I'd bet the function keys on the right side aren't doubleshot, but it's likely that the rest are.  If you're thinking of re-programming then it's important to check that there's a suitable template in softprog first.

I've got one of these and you're perfectly right: the coloured function keys on the right are not doubleshot, but engraved and infilled. All other keys are doubleshot, including those lovely blue arrow keys (but note that on another Access model I have, the blue arrow keys are engraved/infilled instead of doubleshot).
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Wed, 11 January 2012, 13:54:08
Sent out today,
Enjoy guys.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Wed, 11 January 2012, 14:51:22
Yay!  Thanks for all this, Fossala.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Wed, 11 January 2012, 14:53:54
Quote from: hoggy;488139
Yay!  Thanks for all this, Fossala.
Yours was first class.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Fri, 13 January 2012, 15:02:50
Quote from: fossala;488140
Yours was first class.

Got mine today.  Thanks again.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Fri, 13 January 2012, 15:40:02
Did you find the caps in the front? I got told you bought the whole (including caps) after I had packaged it.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: poxeclipse on Fri, 13 January 2012, 19:11:01
I was watching you guys, in the last few days. I wanted one Access too, but was too late. What do you intend to do with them  and how is the typing experience with those keyboards ? All the keyboards I have, I use them at work or at home. Will you use them at work, for instance ?
I like the minis, I have 5 Cherry G84-4100, which I use on a daily basis. I'd like to say how much I appreciate what fossala did, a very nice and friendly job.
He's a really nice guy.
Those Access boards look colorful nice, but how good they are for a normal 9-5 work pace ? The space bar looks short and too far
 to the left, for my fingers at least.
tks
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 13 January 2012, 23:15:51
Quote from: poxeclipse;489945
I was watching you guys, in the last few days. I wanted one Access too, but was too late. What do you intend to do with them  and how is the typing experience with those keyboards ? All the keyboards I have, I use them at work or at home. Will you use them at work, for instance ?
I like the minis, I have 5 Cherry G84-4100, which I use on a daily basis. I'd like to say how much I appreciate what fossala did, a very nice and friendly job.
He's a really nice guy.
Those Access boards look colorful nice, but how good they are for a normal 9-5 work pace ? The space bar looks short and too far
 to the left, for my fingers at least.
tks
I dunno: I'm pretty accurate with my spacebar hits, so I'm sure I'll be fine with it; as far as layout goes: I fully intend on modding it to a better layout, and I'll figure out a good position fro the spacebar then. as far as in the workplace, I'm not allowed to bring in keyboards, so I can't help there.

I also will probably end up modding it to something other than cherry blacks later.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Sat, 14 January 2012, 00:23:11
The space bar is heavy because under it there are 2 switches.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Sat, 14 January 2012, 00:26:24
Poxeclipse - Pretty much ditto dorkvader.  I bought these to play with the layout.  Luckily for me, my employer lets me bring in my own keyboards - I rotate keyboards at work quite often so I'm sure they'll be used in anger at some point.

I don't tend to retain the double width spaces on these boards anyway.  They cover two switches and are just too stiff to feel comfortable.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Sat, 14 January 2012, 00:29:46
Quote from: fossala;489772
Did you find the caps in the front? I got told you bought the whole (including caps) after I had packaged it.

Yes, got those, thanks.  Solves a mystery at least.  Also saved me having to take them off the board for cleaning - very civilised.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: pyro on Fri, 20 January 2012, 18:40:12
Got mine yesterday, thanks fossala!

But howtf did they treat these keyboards ಠ_ಠ
(http://i.imgur.com/wr6yq.jpg)

I also found nails in them.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 20 January 2012, 19:26:15
Jelly you have yours already. You think thats bad, it's nothing in POS board. Trust me. Worst ones I have got was 1, from a hair salon which had tons of hair clipping, and shampoo, lotion, whatever in it; and 2 one from an auto mechanic which was covered in engine grease and etc. Took ages to clean both of them.
Looks like was from a laundrymat or something, all that lint.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Sat, 21 January 2012, 01:30:35
Yeah, I didn't clean any of them. Thought I wouldn't deprive you guys of the fun.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Sat, 21 January 2012, 04:34:34
Quote from: pyro;495224
I also found nails in them.

For once, I hope you mean finger nails...
[ATTACH=CONFIG]38116[/ATTACH]

I've heard of pos boards that arrived complete with leaves...
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: pyro on Sat, 21 January 2012, 07:37:44
[ATTACH=CONFIG]38117[/ATTACH]
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Sat, 21 January 2012, 07:40:48
...eek.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 21 January 2012, 15:04:18
YAY! Mine arrived today. Mine was not nearly as dirty, in fact hardly at all. Not all doubleshots though, oh well. Now lets see how many hours I spend shuffling caps around and dealing with the programming software...
Thanks again fossala.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 21 January 2012, 19:00:46
Yeah, I came up with a Dvorak layout already. I'm still deciding on the split one I'll do later.

Mine came in bytheway. One was dirty, the other pretty clean. Thanks for the F10 :)

I notice the non-DS boards have a extra shift key instead of the SPEC-key. I was kinda hoping all the alphanumeric keys would be flat for easy rearranging, but they're not. Oh well, I might know where my cherry doubleshots are going!

I cleaned all my keycaps (the non-DS keypad ones are awful and still cleaning) and noticed diodes under each key. I also took them apart before using ("Don't turn in on, take it apart!") and the PCB says 1999 on the keyswitch area, and the controller says 2001.

I'm pretty excited about those NKRO diodes.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 21 January 2012, 19:49:53
Yes, it is nkro. I have non DS with SPEC-key, which is itself not doubleshot... so sorry to ruin that theory. I am still working on my layout. The 2nd layer macros stuff is giving it fits. Also I can't seem to get the LED to indicate the layer like it says it can. Slowly but surely...
[ATTACH=CONFIG]38201[/ATTACH]
It looks like a boring old qwerty, because it is for the most part. I will still need it for normal typing for doing searches etc, and need a familiarish layout. Still need to find some better caps for a few keys. Don't like having different profile on same row, drives me nuts so I didn't use a lot of the ones that came with it. I also switched most of the alphas to Wyse, and added some other random caps I had already. I really was expecting all of the caps to be R1 too.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: telepete on Sun, 22 January 2012, 01:51:15
I got mine on Thursday (my birthday, sick timing). It was far dirtier than the one pictured. I didn't take snaps cause looking at made me feel sick. Like a half digested Wookie (but with some staples in him). The board is spotless now ofc. Only my alphabet is doubleshot. Going to put this thing to some use next week. Thanks fossala.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Sun, 22 January 2012, 02:01:31
Nice to see they got across the pond safely.
lysol, is it just 1 or 2 keys not double shot? If so which ones and I will check them against the 2 boards I still have here.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 22 January 2012, 11:29:24
On my "full doubleshot" one, here are the keys that are not doubleshot:
On my "non-doubleshot" only the A-Z keys are doubleshot (and F10 thanks fossala!).
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 22 January 2012, 12:17:19
Keys on mine that were engraved / pad print: F5, F8, 6, 9, Cancel, Hot Swap, Spec-key, tab, caps lock, enter and space. Honestly I really don't care though.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Sun, 22 January 2012, 12:46:30
Hmmm, something is strange here. I don't know what happend so all I can do is apologize, I should of checked them more thoughtfully. Just checked mine and some of mine aren't doubleshot, enter, caps lock and f5.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 22 January 2012, 13:01:53
Quote from: fossala;496279
Hmmm, something is strange here. I don't know what happend so all I can do is apologize, I should of checked them more thoughtfully. Just checked mine and some of mine aren't doubleshot, enter, caps lock and f5.
Nah, it's okay. It was said that most of the F-keys aren't usually doubleshot. I went in for the matrix layout. Doubleshot keys and NKRO are just bonuses.

I'm a bit concerned, though, because it's not working on my adapter. The light flashes twice, but I get nothing when I type. Also, can you reprogram it across a USB to PS2 adapter, or do I need to install windows on my computer with PS2?
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Sun, 22 January 2012, 13:14:19
Try and press the top left hand key. On one of the boards I checked if they could be programmed by making one black except the top left key, then forgot which one.
I don't know if it can be programmed with an adapter but it shouldn't be to hard to find a PC with a PS2 port.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 22 January 2012, 13:17:47
I strongly recommend to use real ps/2 port for programming. Adapter will likely cause a problem if it even work at all.
I also bought it for programmable matrix, any other feature is bonus in my eyes too. At the price it was sold for I am amazed it is 100% function, let alone so nice.

HAHA you erased the program, so all key do nothing. I bet thats the one you got dorkvader.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: pyro on Sun, 22 January 2012, 13:20:09
One of mine doesn't work, the other one only works if connected directly to the ps2 port of the motherboard. They don't work through an ps2->usb adapter.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Sun, 22 January 2012, 13:21:37
Quote from: pyro;496302
One of mine doesn't work, the other one only works if connected directly to the ps2 port of the motherboard. They don't work through an ps2->usb adapter.

They where all tested before being shipped.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 22 January 2012, 13:22:26
It should work through an ACTIVE adapter after programmed. It won't work with those dumb purple/green ones.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: Hzza on Sun, 22 January 2012, 13:41:22
I bought mine for the keys and couldn't get along with the matrix layout so if someone wants another board PM me and you can have mine for however much it costs me to post it.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Mon, 23 January 2012, 01:42:22
Quote from: pyro;496302
One of mine doesn't work, the other one only works if connected directly to the ps2 port of the motherboard. They don't work through an ps2->usb adapter.

Try plugging the dead one in to the motherboard and leaving it for around ten minutes.

The blue cube adaptor works on all of my access boards.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 23 January 2012, 01:57:11
Quote from: lysol;496304
It should work through an ACTIVE adapter after programmed. It won't work with those dumb purple/green ones.
I'm using a PS2 to USB adaptor with both a unicomp (was a gift, they got PS2 by mistake) and a WASD through an adapter at once (saves a USB port).

It's not "hard" to find a computer with a PS2 port, I have 4 in my room, just none have windows on them (and only a few technically "work") I'm going to just shut down my windows box and swap the HDD over into one of them and borrow a monitor for the programming :p

I just had to unplug and the replug the adapter from the USB port, no idea why, but it works now.
I like how "cancel" maps as [ and there is a key labelled with period and semicolon. (comes out as "v" and "V" in Dvorak). "clear" seems to be backspace.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: kbdfr on Mon, 23 January 2012, 02:48:01
Haven't got anything yet.
Apparently shipping is faster from the UK to Canada than to Germany - or my keycaps got lost.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fuah on Mon, 23 January 2012, 08:21:08
Quote from: Hzza;496313
I bought mine for the keys and couldn't get along with the matrix layout so if someone wants another board PM me and you can have mine for however much it costs me to post it.

PM'd!
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Mon, 23 January 2012, 11:17:24
Quote from: kbdfr;496652
Haven't got anything yet.
Apparently shipping is faster from the UK to Canada than to Germany - or my keycaps got lost.

They turned up at my house today as "returned to sender". Don't know why, I will try and send them out again on Wednesday (my next day off work).
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Mon, 23 January 2012, 11:17:48
Quote from: fuah;496725
PM'd!

Can people stop pm'ing me. I don't have any left.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: hoggy on Mon, 23 January 2012, 14:15:29
Quote from: fossala;496825
Can people stop pm'ing me. I don't have any left.
Ha ha ha ha!  I got pm's for months after selling my first batch.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fuah on Mon, 23 January 2012, 18:04:47
How's a dude supposed to know?!

haha..
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Tue, 24 January 2012, 00:33:41
On that note I may be selling a handfull of keyboards. If I decide too it will include my access and my tipro.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: Icarium on Tue, 24 January 2012, 01:44:41
Quote from: fossala;497372
On that note I may be selling a handfull of keyboards. If I decide too it will include my access and my tipro.

dibs
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: kbdfr on Tue, 24 January 2012, 02:01:08
Quote from: fossala;496823
They turned up at my house today as "returned to sender". Don't know why, I will try and send them out again on Wednesday (my next day off work).

Thanks for the update, fossala. And again, time doesn't really matter ;)
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: 7bit on Tue, 24 January 2012, 06:29:29
Quote from: pyro;495224
Got mine yesterday, thanks fossala!

But howtf did they treat these keyboards ಠ_ಠ
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I also found nails in them.


That is some kind of new record.

I found a lot of that stuff in keyboards which had been used in boutiques, but this is much more than I've ever seen.

It is not harmful (contrary to Pharmacy keyboards), but be careful with the needles!
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: kbdfr on Thu, 02 February 2012, 05:45:25
Any updates? Still haven't got anything :(
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 02 February 2012, 07:51:12
I thought shipping to Germany from UK was generally pretty quick? Maybe it's held up in customs.
Title: Access keyboards
Post by: fossala on Thu, 02 February 2012, 12:29:01
Quote from: kbdfr;506245
Any updates? Still haven't got anything :(


No I didn't send them with tracking... If it doesn't turn up soon all I can do is refund you and apologies.