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Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Lamaboi on Sat, 07 January 2012, 20:47:42
New keyboard from korean IDFactory. Kinda identical to the new Leopold FC700R with similiar caps, the same housing, etc.(Taiwanese Costar manufactured obviously). The color of the housing reminds me also alot of the CM Storm Quick Fire Rapid, but without the ugly branding and font. Judging by the pic's I'd say they're marketing it as another 'gamer' board.
http://idfkr.com/
Notice the nkeyrollpver :lol:
(http://thelama.bullet-head.net/Stuff/groove_main.jpg)
They even add a nice little brush to clean off dirt from inbetween the keycaps :lol:
Priced at around 105,000 Won(aprox. 72 Euros), and we'll probably never see it sold outside of Korea :cry:
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: DaemonRaccoon on Sat, 07 January 2012, 20:56:59
N-Key Rollpver? Sign me up!
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: RiGS on Sat, 07 January 2012, 21:02:50
This is nothing like the new Leopold. The case is different, probably it has costar style stabilizers.
It seems to me that this is an exact replica of the CM without the annoying branding.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: reaper on Sat, 07 January 2012, 21:04:33
^ I was about to say...  it reminds me of CM Storm.  At least the Koreans have good taste of not putting logos everwhere. lol
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: squarebox on Sat, 07 January 2012, 21:10:13
From the looks of the accessories, it's similar to the Cooler Master Quickfire Rapid.
From Costar.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Lamaboi on Sat, 07 January 2012, 21:11:08
Ripster, I thought you were an expert or something along that line :3
According to the south korean agency that issues EMC certificates it's a Costar board, at least that's how they classified it...
http://rra.go.kr/approval/status/view.jsp?category=2&no=KCC-REI-CZ7-GROOVE87-FR4 (http://rra.go.kr/approval/status/view.jsp?category=2&no=KCC-REI-CZ7-GROOVE87-FR4)
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: slueth on Sat, 07 January 2012, 21:12:57
woo sign me up for this keyboard! lol screw cmstorm, all those logos :X
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Lamaboi on Sat, 07 January 2012, 21:15:23
Quote from: RiGS;485664
This is nothing like the new Leopold. The case is different, probably it has costar style stabilizers.

I was looking at the leaked pics of the FC700R. The black and white cases had wider edges on the left and right side, back is identical, there is one tiny pic of a gray leopold though, which looks identical to this one(except for the caps). It also does feature the same winlock function key combo and windowed led's...
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: RiGS on Sat, 07 January 2012, 21:18:39
The back is different as well. Just take a look again.
The top part of the upper case also wider on the Leopold.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Lamaboi on Sat, 07 January 2012, 21:22:28
Maybe you're right.
(http://www.leopold.co.kr/data/cheditor4/1201/PyJMh9GDt3gxa9CsU.jpg)
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Lamaboi on Sat, 07 January 2012, 21:33:04
I don't care much for polls, there are a fun way to troll somebody though :>

NP

Anyway, it does look different than a FC700R. I find the IDFactory case a bit sleeker.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: squarebox on Sat, 07 January 2012, 21:36:46
Definitely from Costar...
This is Cooler Master QuickFire Rapid which is the same as the Mstone
(http://cdn.iqmore.com/iqmoreidv_img/review/2011/Cooler_Master/CM_Storm_Quick_Fire_Rapid/31.JPG)

- Same PCB
- Same accessories (except for the brush)
- Same design
- Same colour-finish

For reference : http://www.iqmore.idv.tw/cm-storm-quick-fire-rapid-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-review (http://www.iqmore.idv.tw/cm-storm-quick-fire-rapid-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-review)

Does this make me the number #2 keyboard expert?
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Lamaboi on Sat, 07 January 2012, 21:53:08
You certainly got my vote, if you make a poll :]
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Human on Sat, 07 January 2012, 23:43:56
90 degree sharp bend for USB?
(http://www.memeface.com/heck-no.png)
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Marclgw on Sun, 08 January 2012, 01:15:20
You will not be able to see Groove87 hit retail elsewere. They are only permitted for sale in Korea.
I may put up Group Buy if there are sufficient interest on Geekhack.
2ndly, i need someone who you people can trust so goods can be shipped to him and distributed in US.
I am located in Asia.

Will get back with prices here once i get confirmation with the relevant in charge if they could release a small batch out of Korea.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Lamaboi on Sun, 08 January 2012, 07:46:23
Quote from: Human;485771
90 degree sharp bend for USB?
Show Image
(http://www.memeface.com/heck-no.png)

Just like on all the other boards with detachable cord?
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Human on Sun, 08 January 2012, 11:03:02
Quote from: Lamaboi;485924
Just like on all the other boards with detachable cord?


Others are 90 degree, but not sharp bend...
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Lamaboi on Sun, 08 January 2012, 11:14:02
Y'know, it's not like the cord is exactly bending on the edge where the cable channel starts.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: squarebox on Sun, 08 January 2012, 11:30:11
Considering that it's identical to Cooler Master QuickFire Rapid, the cable will be just fine.
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k221/undarken/CM%20Storm%20QuickFire/coolermastercable.jpg)

Unlike "quack" engineers at Ducky:
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k221/undarken/Ducky%209008%20Keyboard/bend.jpg)
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Human on Sun, 08 January 2012, 11:41:58
Quote from: squarebox;486028
Considering that it's identical to Cooler Master QuickFire Rapid, the cable will be just fine.
Show Image
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k221/undarken/CM%20Storm%20QuickFire/coolermastercable.jpg)


Unlike "quack" engineers at Ducky:
Show Image
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k221/undarken/Ducky%209008%20Keyboard/bend.jpg)
Hmm, braided cable, seems more able to take on the sharp bend. If normal cable will suffer from some damage(or maybe not, cause the wire seems to bent smoothly b4 the sharp bend).
LOL ducky, like a TROLL...
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Lamaboi on Sun, 08 January 2012, 12:20:10
A braided cable is usually weaker and more prone to bending and therefore easier to break wiring inside. The GROOVE87 has the exact same braided cable than the CM Storm QuickFireRapid, still a non-issue though.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: squarebox on Sun, 08 January 2012, 19:37:48
The braided cable that came with it is rather stiff and plasticky compared to braided cables from "gaming" mice.
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k221/undarken/CM%20Storm%20QuickFire/braidedquality_full.jpg)
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Lamaboi on Sun, 08 January 2012, 19:42:51
Never had a detachable cord of that certain keyboard in my hands, but I do got braided cables on my G500 and SS G7, and they're nowhere near as thick nor stiff as the cords on my Leopold or POKER.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Saviant on Mon, 30 January 2012, 04:31:24
Do we know if this has the same rubber coating over the casing as the CM Storm?
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: SmilingPolitely on Tue, 31 January 2012, 00:35:06
Quote from: Saviant;503058
Do we know if this has the same rubber coating over the casing as the CM Storm?

Not 100% sure if it's the same coating, but according to reviews there is a rubber coating on the Groove87 as well.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Roguemaster8 on Tue, 31 January 2012, 22:14:53
Price on the site the OP linked indicates it's still more expensive then the CM Storm.

Couple that with the shipping costs and the CM Storm even with the branding still is the better bargain.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: pakthedude on Wed, 01 February 2012, 11:53:54
does this keyboard comes with the rubber coating found on CM Storm Rapid KB?
I'm not a fan of rubber coating, the "satin" feel wouldn't last long and will turn sticky. Probably accelerated with humidity.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: Lamaboi on Wed, 01 February 2012, 14:08:27
Wasn't refering to you :|
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: pakthedude on Thu, 02 February 2012, 13:30:18
Review at http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3518366 (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3518366)

(http://noma.co.kr/attach/images/42106/366/518/003/d0a14ce07bede60e0a1fd61a52a160eb.JPG)

(http://noma.co.kr/attach/images/42106/366/518/003/8ab2f0b03266de4acf6dbadbd72f1543.JPG)

(http://noma.co.kr/attach/images/42106/366/518/003/c2b46ddd6e90d24510926ba92ea003a0.JPG)

(http://noma.co.kr/attach/images/42106/366/518/003/fbc7ef63a455a4117028bffee26354d0.JPG)
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: mR_fRag` on Tue, 07 February 2012, 04:00:52
In this pic the keyboard has a logo :(
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 07 February 2012, 04:04:51
It looks removable.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: byFd on Tue, 07 February 2012, 04:24:08
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/index.php?mid=review&page=3&document_srl=3412047

there it looks like its not even mounted when you unbox it. you can attach it if you want to, or not :)
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: pakthedude on Tue, 07 February 2012, 10:26:42
does this KB have those rubber coating surface similar to CM Rapid? Which btw will turn sticky like razer mouse
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: SmilingPolitely on Wed, 08 February 2012, 17:54:40
Quote from: pakthedude;508208
does this KB have those rubber coating surface similar to CM Rapid?
Yes.

Quote from: pakthedude;508208
Which btw will turn sticky like razer mouse
Somehow I doubt that. It's not like you'll be constantly gripping the case as you're typing. Your hands should hardly ever touch the case during normal usage.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: pakthedude on Wed, 08 February 2012, 21:38:00
Quote from: SmilingPolitely;509515
Yes.


Somehow I doubt that. It's not like you'll be constantly gripping the case as you're typing. Your hands should hardly ever touch the case during normal usage.


I'm living in Singapore which is hot and humid. I had cameras, remote controls and multi card reader with similar coating which degraded and turned sticky. I had some devices kept in boxes in a cupboard and it turned sticky too.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 09 February 2012, 04:23:17
Quote from: pakthedude;509752
I'm living in Singapore which is hot and humid. I had cameras, remote controls and multi card reader with similar coating which degraded and turned sticky. I had some devices kept in boxes in a cupboard and it turned sticky too.

Then this is not for you, move on.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: pitashen on Thu, 09 February 2012, 11:29:07
Look just like a rebadged CM quick fire rapid. Not necessarily a bad thing.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: pakthedude on Thu, 09 February 2012, 11:31:48
Quote from: ripster;510227
Do KBDMania pics load faster from Singapore?

It's darn slow. 3-5 pixel row per 1-2sec.
Title: GROOVE87-FR4 from IDFactory
Post by: SmilingPolitely on Thu, 09 February 2012, 15:11:01
Quote from: pitashen;510240
Look just like a rebadged CM quick fire rapid.
That's exactly what it is.