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Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: FinancialWar on Tue, 10 January 2012, 03:40:35
can you tell me if driver is needed to remapping keys with the blackwidow keyboards?
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: slueth on Tue, 10 January 2012, 04:13:34
they have software on their website.
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: xorxpto on Tue, 10 January 2012, 04:48:00
You need to install the drivers for Keys M1 to M5 (macro keys) to be detected.
All software updates for blackwidow keyboards can be found here (http://www.razersupport.com/index.php?_m=downloads&_a=view&parentcategoryid=77&nav=0) at Razor site.
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: FinancialWar on Tue, 10 January 2012, 17:02:09
I don't really care about the Macro keys, just want to remap the letters around. Can you do that on the Blackwidow without drivers?
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: RSSonic92 on Tue, 10 January 2012, 17:18:45
If you are using Windows you can just do it manually in the registry or use SharpKeys.
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: xorxpto on Wed, 11 January 2012, 09:39:08
The Blackwidow without drivers is like any standard keyboard.
You can remap the letters around without drivers
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: FinancialWar on Thu, 12 January 2012, 06:59:23
Quote from: xorxpto;487950
The Blackwidow without drivers is like any standard keyboard.
You can remap the letters around without drivers

do you have source for that?
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: xorxpto on Thu, 12 January 2012, 08:10:26
Quote from: dvorak;488549
do you have source for that?


Yes, I own a Razer Blackwidow Normal Edition (non-Illuminated, with Cherry MX Blue switches).
That's the keyboard I use all the time at home.
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: Armando Penblade on Thu, 12 January 2012, 12:55:51
And the second half, remapping keys, is sourced by the wide variety of programs that exist for remapping keys of any keyboard in the world.
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: FinancialWar on Thu, 12 January 2012, 23:35:22
I can't use software about some times I need to work around on different computers at work. I must take my layout with me on a keyboard.
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: Human on Thu, 12 January 2012, 23:39:48
Quote from: dvorak;489244
I can't use software about some times I need to work around on different computers at work. I must take my layout with me on a keyboard.

I thought Razer BW don't had onboard memory to store the configuration?
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: Human on Thu, 12 January 2012, 23:53:01
BTW, heard that Tesoro had onboard memory for saving configurations(not sure if driver needed).
http://www.tesorotec.com/gaming-keyboard.html
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: laffindude on Fri, 13 January 2012, 07:48:27
Quote from: harrison;489250
then you need something with the ability to program the firmware, and that flat out doesn't exist in an off-the-shelf mechanical keyboard today.  if you're feeling adventurous, it is possible to wire a teensy into an existing keyboard, but it takes some effort.  projects like Phantom and Dox address this.

keep your eye open though, i know of one vendor looking to get something to market, but no ETA yet.


Of course it exist. Rapoo V7. Saves config on the board itself.
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: Human on Fri, 13 January 2012, 08:54:54
Quote from: harrison;489422
interesting about the rapoo... i don't recall hearing about a programmable controller in either of the reviews i read here.  but then you need to use those sacrilegious switches.  i do, however, really like the in-key LED windows.


Rapoo V7 is fully programmable(hardware level) keyboard, just like their V5(which is sort of a Razer BW clone).

I am not very sure on the ability of storing configurations onboard memory part though.

BTW, some ppl claim that those switch are actually quite enjoyable(for those who like cherry black and red). The major down part is the durability which probably caused by poor QC(random broken switches or improper solder contacts).
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: shogrran on Fri, 13 January 2012, 16:09:39
Hmmm so basically what you are asking is if there is onboard drivers for the Razer Blackwidow pretty much like what Steelseries has with their mouse? Something that you don't have to install but can carry your settings around?

1. I use the Razer blackwidow elite (non-illuminated), and unfortunately it doesn't have such a feature as on-board memory. That will probably cause the cost of this board to blow up in case they had tried to incorporate that.
2. As they said above you don't necessarily have to have razer drivers to remap keys but you have to have the razer drivers to remap the macro keys on the blackwidow. But you mentioned "drivers" in general. Technically if you want to remap anything you'll still need a software whether it be windows itself or autohotkey.
3. Best bet I guess is to find something with cloud storage so even if you can't carry your profiles around within your keyboard you can retrieve it when connected to the network? - not sure about this. Razer is testing some synapse in beta - might want to look at that.
4. Why don't you just carry an external USB flash disk with you containing your needed driver and profiles? You're planning on lugging a heavy blackwidow keyboard around anyway so 2 ounces of added weight shouldn't matter much to you right?
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: FinancialWar on Fri, 13 January 2012, 18:21:51
shogrran

so basically you can remap the keys (but not the macro keys), with the driver however, you can not save it on the BlackWidow because there is no on board memory. Is that what you're saying?
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: FinancialWar on Fri, 13 January 2012, 20:38:38
Do you even have a Rappoo V7?
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: FinancialWar on Fri, 13 January 2012, 21:39:08
Quote from: ripster;490014
Are you really a CFA?

What do you think of Munis?

Depends on whether you can afford my advice or not.
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: Roguemaster8 on Fri, 13 January 2012, 21:52:29
Quote from: FinancialWar;490032
Depends on whether you can afford my advice or not.

Oh my, nothing in this world is free.
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: shogrran on Fri, 13 January 2012, 22:34:57
Quote from: ripster;490014
Are you really a CFA?

What do you think of Munis?

Am I the only one who read this as "What do you think of Mila Kunis?"
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: Creizai on Tue, 17 January 2012, 17:35:18
This is how real gamers set up macro keys man
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4606/1326778775142.jpg)
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: Human on Wed, 18 January 2012, 06:59:46
Quote from: ripster;492871
With Marlboros?

And probably the lighter and the plastic bottle cap too.
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: ViciousXUSMC on Wed, 18 January 2012, 09:07:27
Eww didnt know Hero smoked... such a bad habit.
Title: help needed from people with Blackwidow
Post by: shogrran on Sat, 21 January 2012, 23:05:01
Quote from: FinancialWar;489923
shogrran

so basically you can remap the keys (but not the macro keys), with the driver however, you can not save it on the BlackWidow because there is no on board memory. Is that what you're saying?

Sorry I am misunderstanding something here I think. You can remap the keys on the razer either with the razer software itself or you can use other remapping software but you cannot save anything on the blackwidow itself as there is no onboard memory.

My simplest suggestion is to just carry a USB flash disk around with an autohotkey script ready made or the installer for the razer software + your profiles. This doesn't work as well as onboard memory but it saves you a lot of cash.

You might encounter problems with the razer driver actually --