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Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: wilsongunawan on Thu, 12 January 2012, 11:01:11
Can u guys suggest me which one better or other keyboard? Coz I got the leopold fcr500 and I want feel the mini or compact keyboard now. And which one better for gaming?
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: Reptile on Thu, 12 January 2012, 11:07:00
I would say it depends what you like. I love my choc mini and it is fine for gaming. The white model has thick PBT keycaps which are also a bonus. But if you plan on trying to find a new set of keys that would fit completely; good luck as a lot of the modifiers are different sizes than a standard 87 key.
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: wilsongunawan on Thu, 12 January 2012, 11:11:09
So that means the keycaps are hard to find?
Quote from: Reptile;488743
I would say it depends what you like. I love my choc mini and it is fine for gaming. The white model has thick PBT keycaps which are also a bonus. But if you plan on trying to find a new set of keys that would fit completely; good luck as a lot of the modifiers are different sizes than a standard 87 key.
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: Reptile on Thu, 12 January 2012, 16:53:34
The sizes are different than on a Filco, Ducky etc.. So you cant buy an 87 or 104 set and have them all fit. But again the stock keycaps on the white models are already very nice.
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: Human on Thu, 12 January 2012, 23:01:02
Quote from: wilsongunawan;488750
So that means the keycaps are hard to find?


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1st: Back-lit keycaps are rare(though KBT do sell white color replacement keycaps for Race)
2nd: R5 height F-keys are extremely rare
3rd: The layout is non-standard and a little odd
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: wilsongunawan on Thu, 12 January 2012, 23:43:01
So for the peformance in gaming n typing and the durability which one is better?
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: Human on Thu, 12 January 2012, 23:46:34
Quote from: wilsongunawan;489254
So for the peformance in gaming n typing and the durability which one is better?

I wonder how do we judge performance?

For durability wise(for keycaps in this particular case), the non-coated + PBT/POM keycaps on the Choc Mini should be the winner.(correct me if anyone who own KBT Race can prove that it is wrong).
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: wilsongunawan on Fri, 13 January 2012, 00:22:55
Do the kbt works on mac os? Because there is a posibility I'm gonna change to mac. The noppoo don't work on the mac but I really like the white color
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: astr0s on Fri, 13 January 2012, 00:52:28
Quote from: sixty
There is no n-key rollover for USB, so the keyboard is fully working under all major operating system.

http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1763

So, supposedly it should work, also check here http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?26003-KBT-Race-75-White-LED-arrive-all-switches, Qtan should price the white/blue Races today :)
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: wilsongunawan on Fri, 13 January 2012, 09:18:17
so is there any others compact keyboard?
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: Benji on Fri, 13 January 2012, 09:22:32
keycaps on noppoo is nice looking
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: Maxrunner on Fri, 13 January 2012, 09:24:03
What does the % value mean???
Like this designation for example:    
KBC Poker 40% Mechanical Gaming keyboard Cherry MX BLUE Switches W/ PBT Caps

40% of what??? :P
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: Benji on Fri, 13 January 2012, 09:34:05
I imagine of a regular or bigger keyboard. I think..
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: Benji on Fri, 13 January 2012, 09:34:41
anyone?
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: Human on Fri, 13 January 2012, 10:32:35
Quote from: Maxrunner;489475
What does the % value mean???
Like this designation for example:    
KBC Poker 40% Mechanical Gaming keyboard Cherry MX BLUE Switches W/ PBT Caps

40% of what??? :P


40% of the size/layout of normal fullsize keyboard.
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: trax on Fri, 13 January 2012, 10:43:27
Yea not sure about this percentage thingy either

20% = numpad
therefor filco, leaopold, realforce tenkeyless are 80%

Remove 5% from the filco tlk to get a PURE? Ye, they removed the 6pack cluster so I guess thats 5%

Removing the dedicated arrow keys would be another 5% so you would get 60%

But then the poker only misses the F1-F12 row and that surely doesn't make up for 20%




WIKI PLOX
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: Human on Fri, 13 January 2012, 11:08:30
Quote from: trax;489536
Yea not sure about this percentage thingy either

20% = numpad
therefor filco, leaopold, realforce tenkeyless are 80%

Remove 5% from the filco tlk to get a vortex? Ye, they removed the 6pack cluster so I guess thats 5%

Removing the dedicated arrow keys would be another 5% so you would get 60%

But then the poker only misses the F1-F12 row and that surely doesn't make up for 20%




WIKI PLOX

In fact, poker is also called 60% keyboard sometimes.
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: trax on Fri, 13 January 2012, 11:12:22
Quote from: Human;489561
In fact, poker is also called 60% keyboard sometimes.

That would make sense.
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: wilsongunawan on Fri, 13 January 2012, 19:22:19
but the size of the kbt said 75% n it's only the same size with the poker 40%
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: FinancialWar on Fri, 13 January 2012, 19:59:37
I thought the KBT have the function row which the poker does not have.
Title: second keyboard! kbt75% race keyboard or white choco mini noppoo?
Post by: captain on Sat, 31 March 2012, 10:01:45
I'm not finding the answers to the above, though I seem to recall reading a more in depth explanation. The big question is: are the KEYS full size?  Likewise on the Pure. Enshrinkened keys SUCK. Unless you are 7.