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geekhack Marketplace => Great Finds => Topic started by: DrSchlock on Wed, 01 February 2012, 11:55:15
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Does anyone know if this a good deal? http://www.ebay.com/itm/110748801790 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/110748801790).
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I don't see the "H" in the model number, so if you were hoping for it to have doubleshots, I don't think they do. I'm guessing the "L" in LRCUS means lasered keycaps.
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I'd probably get one if it weren't for that god-awful Enter key.
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Might be a good deal for clear switches but I'd ask seller to pull a keycap to verify. Might be browns.
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Might be a good deal for clear switches but I'd ask seller to pull a keycap to verify. Might be browns.
Question submitted to seller
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I don't see the "H" in the model number, so if you were hoping for it to have doubleshots, I don't think they do. I'm guessing the "L" in LRCUS means lasered keycaps.
You are correct, nothing but lasered keycaps to see here. Move along folks.
Still, if it wasn't piss-yellow beige I'd consider getting one as a cheap at-work board. I actually use a black doubleshot one at home, they're not a bad board when in this price range.
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Well if they got clears, could be used as a donor for some Ergo Clears!
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I must have missed before, but title says white key switches
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There are MX White switches? Or does that mean MY?
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The G80-8113 (http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/keyboards/POS/8113/index.htm) only comes in MX switches, but it's a crap shoot as to whether it's brown or clear MX.
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Well, if it says they're white what does that make them? Clear? :D
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They're clears. It's an internal Cherry Corp designation. They used to have one they called Whites a LONG time ago and don't want to have any confusion.
EDIT: I learned all that from ripster, he really is the number one keyboard expert in the world.
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Hm..so it seems like an okay deal to harvest clears, right?
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Hm..so it seems like an okay deal to harvest clears, right?
YES!
Man! I should have canceled my cherry clear order on the phantom, and just gone with this.
Will the keycaps work with a modern keyboard? I see nothing wrong with using cherry official lasered keys as a moogle kit.
I mean $50 shipped for what... 122? cherry clears isn't a bad deal at all.
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Yep, great deal for clears. I have one myself in the closet.
Keycaps should work fine, except the spacebar. I used them as a replacement moogle kit myself at one point.
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Yep, great deal for clears. I have one myself in the closet.
Keycaps should work fine, except the spacebar. I used them as a replacement moogle kit myself at one point.
Great, now I want one, and there are only 5 left. Hmm, I wonder if the "bump" is worn on these. I think either way, I should be able to find enough to properly populate a phantom....
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Thanks for the heads up, just grabbed one to harvest the clears for my poker :)
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Ebay G80s are a gamble as to the tactile bump being worn to crap.
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O rly? Fingers crossed then, at least with the poker X I only need 61 of the 120 switches to be unworn haha, plus for what it's worth I asked the seller to send me the newest looking one he had.
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Let's remember that most of these POS boards, while worn, are generally only worn in very specific places. The function keys and the top row of numbers should all be fine... there will surely be enough good switches to repopulate your Poker.
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Yes, and you can put the semi-worn ones in less-used places.
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Indeed, I'll report back here when it arrives incase others are curious of their condition etc, might take a couple of weeks to arrive tho seeings I'm in Australia.
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This is almost the exact board I used to harvest clears
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Too bad they aren't double-shots. It looks like ebay sellers have all figured out they can charge top dollar for old keyboards. I don't see any non-trashed Cherry boards for <$100. :-/ I'll stick with my brand new order of MX switches through Phantom order, and not deal with all the crap. :-)
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Also, all the function keys are relegendable keys, even though some lids seem to be missing.
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Finally turned up today, seller took about a week to actually ship it.. switches all feel OK, even the rather dirty keys and numpad that has obviously seen a lot of use. Will be tearing it down this weekend to harvest the stems for my poker, fun fun! Oh the lids for the relegendable keys are all there too.
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For any of you that got these to harvest stems from, I would be interested in the keycaps, especially the capslock and modifiers if anyone wants to sell or trade keycaps (will even trade some doubleshots of other keys for them). I need beige ones to go with a Coffee and cream set of cherry 2shots i got recently, black modifiers look... not so nice with them.
Not all ebay sellers have gotten savvy, just the few bigger sellers that deal in keyboards regularly. We only have ourselves to blame for asking about doubleshots so frequently. I have gotten 3 g80-11900 with doubleshots for under $30 in the last few months, 2 NIB. Sadly all are black, and I have really been after a white set. You just have to have search-fu and be patient.
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not a big fan of 35 price point with like 15 bucks of shipping...
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I am not even really interested in doubleshots anymore as I have a shiny black set and a like new beige set. =S I would rather have some of the nice thick PBTs now. I was wondering about the 11900's nobody seemed to be buying those.
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Ebay G80s are a gamble as to the tactile bump being worn to crap.
Wrong. It's the internal switch that causes the sloppy feel. The little leafs do not cause the stems to wear down. The metal leafs over time collapse and don't provide the same amount of pressure as they do when they are new. You can actually fiddle with them and make them feel a lot better by pulling them out a bit.
But take a POS keyboard that has clears that has been used heavily and put the stems into a keyboard with brand new switch housings and they will feel brand new. You can do the reverse as well. Put brand new stems in beat to hell housing and they will feel very used.
Finally turned up today, seller took about a week to actually ship it.. switches all feel OK, even the rather dirty keys and numpad that has obviously seen a lot of use. Will be tearing it down this weekend to harvest the stems for my poker, fun fun! Oh the lids for the relegendable keys are all there too.
See above.
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The metal leafs over time collapse and don't provide the same amount of pressure as they do when they are new. You can actually fiddle with them and make them feel a lot better by pulling them out a bit.
I will have to put this to the test.
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Most don't buy the 11900 because of the layout. They are one of the worst Cherry boards to harvest doubleshots from, as all of the fkeys, nav, numpad are R3 profile, and even the main block has less compatible keys than a MY8000. I find them to be pretty nice boards even though I am not that fond of black switch. Two of the 11900 I have picked up recently have been modded, one to clears, one to greens.
If you are just after PBT though, you can but a MY8000Lsomething for around $10 most of the time. Make sure to get a 2tone white/beige for compatible modifiers though... the newer all grey ones usually have incompatible keys.
Bini is 100% correct, I have had Cherry boards over 20 years old that felt like ****, and it is easy to fix them as he outlines. I only bother on PCB mount boards though, plates are too much effort for me...
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So I just have to pull the leaf back out and my near linear clears will feel all right and bright again?
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So I just have to pull the leaf back out and my near linear clears will feel all right and bright again?
It's not that easy, cause the metal leafs get worn down. It's best to try and find new or near new housings and then use whatever stems/springs you want.
But if you play with that leaf you might get it to feel better. Ergo clears in brand new housing are usually so bumpy that they stick sometimes.
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I had a couple sticking switches. Like an idiot I fiddled with a few of the leaves before lubing the bump on the stem. Now I have a somewhat uneven key feel. Be really careful fiddling with the leaf, it really adds to the keyfeel, and if you bend it too much, it can either stick (like what BiNiaRiS said), or feel completely linear. I have a few 'linear-like' switches on my Poker, that I have to retweak because I bent em too far.
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I had a couple sticking switches. Like an idiot I fiddled with a few of the leaves before lubing the bump on the stem. Now I have a somewhat uneven key feel. Be really careful fiddling with the leaf, it really adds to the keyfeel, and if you bend it too much, it can either stick (like what BiNiaRiS said), or feel completely linear. I have a few 'linear-like' switches on my Poker, that I have to retweak because I bent em too far.
Its why they get worn down. The metal is very thin.
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For any of you that got these to harvest stems from, I would be interested in the keycaps, especially the capslock and modifiers if anyone wants to sell or trade keycaps (will even trade some doubleshots of other keys for them). I need beige ones to go with a Coffee and cream set of cherry 2shots i got recently, black modifiers look... not so nice with them.
Sorry mang I'll be hanging onto mine, they're PBT caps on this one not doubleshot's so probably not what you're after anyway.
Couple of pics of the board I got from this seller, I should have taken a pic when I first took delivery as it looked pretty filthy, but 2 mins with a damp cloth and it cleaned up quite well as you can see.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7205/6922450003_5722147ccb_o.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7068/6922450091_8be97259d2_o.jpg)