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Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: furry_angina on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:14:50
This will be my first mechanical keyboard, but this is not your typical 'which keyboard should i get' post.  I know exactly what I want, but I don't know if it exists and I was wondering if any of you more enlightened geekhackers can point me to the right direction of my perfect keyboard.

For use:

Coding - (10+ hrs/day)
Gaming RTS/MMO - (15 hrs/week)

In order of importance of features:

1) Tenkeyless ANSI layout like Filco/Leopold
2) 1-2 USB pass through/hub like Happy Hackers Pro2
3) Cherry Brown or Clear, or Topre switches
4) Modability for when I want Ergo Clears (can pop out switches vs soldering, etc)
5) Mac/PC compatible
6) Less than $300 USD


Thank you :)
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: trievalot on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:17:18
i can see you are new
you will simply buy 15 keyboards that will each do some of your required function, unless you LEAVE NOW!
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: furry_angina on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:20:56
It's too late for that... I've gone in the rabbit hole.
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: trievalot on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:22:18
im so sorry. it  gets easier I'm told
love your avatar btw
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: trievalot on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:23:24
if you want mac, have you tried the matias tactile pro?
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: furry_angina on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:30:19
Why can't they just make a White Filco with a USB hub, Clear switches, and PBT ninja keycaps ? WHY?!  

Maybe I'll just settle for a Leopold Tenkeyless Tactile Force and get a USB hub with a bag of blank PBT's. I think I just answered my own question...or would ABS be good with clears... arggh.

And thanks :)
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: byFd on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:33:59
you could mode a usb hub into an existing board :)
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: trievalot on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:34:11
hhkb changed my life
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: furry_angina on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:35:29
Quote from: trievalot;509100
im so sorry. it  gets easier I'm told
love your avatar btw

I develop on a Mac, but I'm on Windows for gaming.  I've seen that keyboard around and it reminds me of the old school iMac keyboards lol.  I really like the tenkeyless simplicity.  I really want the Leopold Clears, but EK says that it's not recommended for first time buyers.  I've tried blues/reds/browns/blacks, so by deduction, I know I'll prefer Clears.
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: furry_angina on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:37:08
Quote from: byFd;509108
you could mode a usb hub into an existing board :)

Yeah I'm not that adept with modding small peripherals.  I'd probably just end up burning my fingers lol... a Doctor Who USB hub should do it.
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: trievalot on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:37:33
tried topre?
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: furry_angina on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:38:53
I was |----this----| close to springing for a HHKB last night, but noticed that the layout is 'missing' the windows key?  And no, I haven't tried Topre, but I'm 80% sure I'll like it.  I can just buy it to try it, and then sell it here if anything...
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: trievalot on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:40:50
if you want to try the layout get a HHKB Lite, get on ebay for around $20
crap domes but gives you the idea
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: Tarkoon on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:41:59
A Phantom with selfmade case would fullfill all your wishes! =)
Mine will get an integrated (powered) USB hub...
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: pyro on Wed, 08 February 2012, 05:44:44
These are the windows keys: ♦
[ATTACH=CONFIG]39713[/ATTACH]
Right next to the space bar.

Dont' buy a lite, they're crap.
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: furry_angina on Wed, 08 February 2012, 06:06:55
I'm not entirely sure how the DIP switches work, but do you have to fiddle with them each time you change OS platforms, or is it auto once you set them?

Also, I think trievalot suggested the Lite for me to test drive the layout.

I feel like buying Topre before Cherry is sort of cheating... Is this a douche move? Please confirm.
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: laffindude on Wed, 08 February 2012, 06:50:33
If you only want the smaller size of tenkeyless, you can try a G80-1865.
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: forcefollow on Wed, 08 February 2012, 08:57:25
Quote from: furry_angina;509119
I'm not entirely sure how the DIP switches work, but do you have to fiddle with them each time you change OS platforms, or is it auto once you set them?

Also, I think trievalot suggested the Lite for me to test drive the layout.

I feel like buying Topre before Cherry is sort of cheating... Is this a douche move? Please confirm.

simply said, DIP switches configures your keyboard (unless you're referring to other electronics) at hardware level. In the topre keyboards, they configure which switches reads as which

and no, it's definitely NOT cheating to get topre prior to other kinds of switches.
It's all go back to your preference and taste. I have several realforces and a HHKB as well as almost all kinds of cherry mx's (minus the rarer ones they listed in wiki), yet I still found none exactly what I'd like to feel. Some are close enough, but not perfect.
Again, none are.. so the addiction begins :p
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: furry_angina on Wed, 08 February 2012, 12:43:18
Quote from: forcefollow;509166
simply said, DIP switches configures your keyboard (unless you're referring to other electronics) at hardware level. In the topre keyboards, they configure which switches reads as which

heheh I figured that much, but I'm not sure if it's annoying to have to flick the switches every time I change computers (which would be quite often).

Quote from: forcefollow;509166

Again, none are.. so the addiction begins :p


I'm barely knee deep into this, and I already have 3 keyboards lined up that I want to get haha....
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: boli on Wed, 08 February 2012, 12:54:03
Quote from: furry_angina;509331
heheh I figured that much, but I'm not sure if it's annoying to have to flick the switches every time I change computers (which would be quite often).

If all the dip switch does is swap Ctrl with Win/Command it's no problem, because you can easily swap them via software in one of your two OS. So my keyboard is set to Mac mode, because that's where I use it most. In Windows I used SharpKeys (http://www.randyrants.com/2008/12/sharpkeys_30.html) to swap Ctrl with Command, and that was it - works like a charm in both OS, no changes to dip switches or firmware mode needed.
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: rustybarnacle on Wed, 08 February 2012, 14:53:26
Quote from: furry_angina;509095
This will be my first mechanical keyboard, but this is not your typical 'which keyboard should i get' post.  I know exactly what I want, but I don't know if it exists and I was wondering if any of you more enlightened geekhackers can point me to the right direction of my perfect keyboard.

For use:

Coding - (10+ hrs/day)
Gaming RTS/MMO - (15 hrs/week)

In order of importance of features:

1) Tenkeyless ANSI layout like Filco/Leopold
2) 1-2 USB pass through/hub like Happy Hackers Pro2
3) Cherry Brown or Clear, or Topre switches
4) Modability for when I want Ergo Clears (can pop out switches vs soldering, etc)
5) Mac/PC compatible
6) Less than $300 USD


Thank you :)


Really, the only thing you're asking for that's a bit tricky is the USB ports.  If you can live without those, you have any number of choices.
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: furry_angina on Wed, 08 February 2012, 20:01:37
Quote from: boli;509334
If all the dip switch does is swap Ctrl with Win/Command it's no problem, because you can easily swap them via software in one of your two OS. So my keyboard is set to Mac mode, because that's where I use it most. In Windows I used SharpKeys (http://www.randyrants.com/2008/12/sharpkeys_30.html) to swap Ctrl with Command, and that was it - works like a charm in both OS, no changes to dip switches or firmware mode needed.


Thanks, this helps a lot!

Quote from: rustybarnacle;509385
Really, the only thing you're asking for that's a bit tricky is the USB ports


Yes, precisely.  I'm waiting for my friend's HHKP to get here to see if I like it, then I shall purchase my own :)  Otherwise, I'm going Leopold Clears or Filco Browns.
Title: Does this keyboard exist?
Post by: sordna on Wed, 08 February 2012, 20:12:04
Quote from: furry_angina;509095
This will be my first mechanical keyboard, but this is not your typical 'which keyboard should i get' post.  I know exactly what I want, but I don't know if it exists and I was wondering if any of you more enlightened geekhackers can point me to the right direction of my perfect keyboard.

For use:

Coding - (10+ hrs/day)
Gaming RTS/MMO - (15 hrs/week)

In order of importance of features:

1) Tenkeyless ANSI layout like Filco/Leopold
2) 1-2 USB pass through/hub like Happy Hackers Pro2
3) Cherry Brown or Clear, or Topre switches
4) Modability for when I want Ergo Clears (can pop out switches vs soldering, etc)
5) Mac/PC compatible
6) Less than $300 USD


I think a Kinesis Advantage (retails at $269 with free shipping) fits the bill on all points except it does #4 partially (it's not trivial to swap switches or stems in the main keyboard area, but you can do it in the thumb area.) This board is generally very mod friendly (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:26579) and excellent for coding, in my experience.