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Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Mon, 13 February 2012, 16:59:51
Simple layout for my first real mechanical board.
Planning on ordering from WASD
And slowly replacing the keys.

Suggestions or ideas or is it horribad?!?

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Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Mon, 13 February 2012, 22:45:27
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With the graphics I forgot.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Glukos on Tue, 14 February 2012, 07:14:11
I like backspace idea =)
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Tue, 14 February 2012, 07:22:14
Not sure if I should just move the image up and remove the backspace lettering all together.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: PixelVandalism on Tue, 14 February 2012, 07:23:17
Why do the qwerty legends have black squares around them?
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Tue, 14 February 2012, 07:27:07
To give the two layouts on the board a contrast.

I found when I just had the QWERTY as regular letters, it wasn't very aesthetically pleasing.
However as I intend to have this etched, I am not sure if it will turn out like that.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: PixelVandalism on Tue, 14 February 2012, 07:30:31
I personally think they will look quite strange, do you really need the qwerty legends?
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Tue, 14 February 2012, 07:34:08
Unfortunately yes, as other people find it frustrating to use my system with it.
Well I don't _need_ it, however it will make my life easier in certain situations.

Like not all games/applications have proper support for DVORAK layouts.
And I am far to lazy to rebind every game/app I use.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: PixelVandalism on Tue, 14 February 2012, 07:35:56
Go with the mentality that if other people can't type without looking at the keys they don't deserve to use your system?
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Tue, 14 February 2012, 07:40:27
I tried that with my other keyboard that was a sub in until I went after a proper mechanical board.

However I may change it, shall see.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Glukos on Tue, 14 February 2012, 09:18:22
Quote from: Vyr1s;514038
remove the backspace lettering
Sure
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Glukos on Tue, 14 February 2012, 09:31:44
By the way:
-black keys
-red qwerty without squares
-white letters and dvorak
-yellow pacman
-red "x change layout"
-maybe 6 colorful ghosts from pacman instead of homw/end/pgup/etc keys
-strawberry, cherry and apple instead of prtscreen/scroll/pause row

Sooo sweet combo.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Glukos on Tue, 14 February 2012, 13:12:29
Mr. Harrison, you need some relaxation massage!
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: boli on Tue, 14 February 2012, 14:27:52
Quote from: PixelVandalism;514048
Go with the mentality that if other people can't type without looking at the keys they don't deserve to use your system?

^ This. If you wanna be nice keep a "normal" keyboard in the drawer, that's what I do. :)

The QWERTY legends look bad IMO. The images aren't my cup of tea either, but whatever floats your boat.

BTW got own engraved caps (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?20464-What-did-you-add-to-your-Keyboard-today-Post-Your-Pics&p=514346&viewfull=1#post514346) today.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Wed, 15 February 2012, 22:10:53
Version three, removed backspace text, increased box size, bolded letters, rounded corners.

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Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: PixelVandalism on Wed, 15 February 2012, 22:42:18
All the small things won't come out the way you want them too, and the qwerty legends still look awkward on the keys.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: TopazPie on Wed, 15 February 2012, 22:43:11
I think it's a pretty good layout. The qwerty legend doesn't look too bad in that last pic. Custom layouts are cool. Bow ties are cool.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Thu, 16 February 2012, 07:05:26
Quote from: TopazPie;515766
Custom layouts are cool. Bow ties are cool.

Fezzes are cool.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Thu, 16 February 2012, 08:49:18
Quote from: PixelVandalism;515764
All the small things won't come out the way you want them too, and the qwerty legends still look awkward on the keys.

Small being? I've seen some similar etch jobs that turned out alright.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Glukos on Thu, 16 February 2012, 09:24:11
Maybe you will try lasered dvorak and engraved qwerty w/o squares?
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Thu, 16 February 2012, 09:53:44
If it was feasible, that could definitely work.

Not sure if WASD would do it.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Glukos on Thu, 16 February 2012, 11:18:02
They can indeed
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Glukos on Thu, 16 February 2012, 11:26:05
I dunno about 104set cost... I dont care.
I'm a baller :D
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 16 February 2012, 23:37:12
Quote from: Vyr1s;516038
If it was feasible, that could definitely work.

Not sure if WASD would do it.

Quote from: Glukos;516098
They can indeed

Indeed, but last I checked, it's just a little bit more expensive. There's an example of this on his website. I'd say it looks great, and is probably your bestbet.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Mon, 20 February 2012, 09:07:35
Only problem is I don't care for the engraved look hmmm.
Probably stick with etched.

Oh well, its just a keyset and whatever I don't like will get replaced / designed out whenever I get a new set.
Also a lot of the spacing that looks incorrect is due to the way I am uploading screenshots.
The higher rez versions look flush.

Just converted the images properly into Vectors.

Few more decisions and I think I will forward it all to WASD.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Zifle on Mon, 20 February 2012, 09:25:17
Slightly off topic (sorry):

Doctor who double shot group buy?
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Mon, 20 February 2012, 09:26:51
Probably, going to be running a GB for some stuff I am after, possibly teaming up with a co-worker to do an 'odds and ends' sort of GB.

Keep an eye out. ^.<

On the off topic topic, thoughts on other than what I have for my ESC key?
A dalek would be amazing IMO
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Wed, 29 February 2012, 07:09:22
Well ordered my keyboard / keycaps from WASD.
Shall see how they turn out!
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: PixelVandalism on Thu, 01 March 2012, 00:16:19
Post some pics when they come in.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Thu, 01 March 2012, 10:09:00
I failed to embed the fonts, and had to correct shipping info as I provided the wrong address (gg not personal addresses).

But everything is sorted, and it has been completed.
The package is en-route as of this morning.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Tue, 06 March 2012, 16:45:09
Turned out not bad! Less detail than I hoped on the ESC and some of the punction QWERTY layout keys are hard to see.

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Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: megnin on Tue, 06 March 2012, 17:07:32
Quote from: PixelVandalism;514048
Go with the mentality that if other people can't type without looking at the keys they don't deserve to use your system?
I agree. No one at work messes with my Otaku HHKB. :biggrin:

I think the boxed QWERTY keys look good.  It makes it obvious that it's a dual layout keyboard.
Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Vyr1s on Tue, 06 March 2012, 19:54:30
And with the TriForce modifiers

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Title: Dvorak/Qwerty Layout - Tell me how bad it is
Post by: Glukos on Sat, 10 March 2012, 11:38:44
PACMAN