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Title: Key size for Kbtrace?
Post by: net2522 on Sun, 04 March 2012, 19:58:54

Key caps, What key size are there use for Kbtrace?  modifier keys,  esc, Ctrl, Alt ...etc.  

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Title: Key size for Kbtrace?
Post by: Human on Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:20:37

Ctrl and arrows = normal 1.25x modifiers

The sadist and hardest part is their weird R5 height and also especially the 1.5x modifiers' Esc and Del.

Title: Key size for Kbtrace?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:23:02

esc is 1.5, backspace 1.5, right ctrl 1 unit, right shift 1.25, arrows 1.25, end 1.25 everything else appears to be normal.
Lots of old terminal boards have 1.5 esc and backspace, so not impossible to get some cool doubleshots for those.

Title: Key size for Kbtrace?
Post by: net2522 on Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:23:44

Quote from: Human;535299

Ctrl and arrows = normal 1.25x modifiers

The sadist and hardest part is their weird R5 height and also the 1.25x modifiers' Esc and Del.

:bounce:  Thanks

Title: Key size for Kbtrace?
Post by: Human on Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:26:34

Quote from: net2522;535302

:bounce:  Thanks

I fixed my post. The Esc and Del should be 1.5x.
Just recalculated it(16 - 13keys) and the answer give the 3 for the 2 keys, which mean 1.5x each.

Title: Key size for Kbtrace?
Post by: net2522 on Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:32:05

Quote from: lysol;535301

esc is 1.5, backspace 1.5, right ctrl 1 unit, right shift 1.25, arrows 1.25, end 1.25 everything else appears to be normal.
Lots of old terminal boards have 1.5 esc and backspace, so not impossible to get some cool doubleshots for those.

:thumb:

Title: Key size for Kbtrace?
Post by: Human on Sun, 04 March 2012, 21:33:43

Quote from: lysol;535301

esc is 1.5, backspace 1.5, right ctrl 1 unit, right shift 1.25, arrows 1.25, end 1.25 everything else appears to be normal.
Lots of old terminal boards have 1.5 esc and backspace, so not impossible to get some cool doubleshots for those.

How about to find the R5 keys?

Title: Key size for Kbtrace?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 04 March 2012, 22:51:52

What is R5? I wish everyone would follow the long established (at least since mid 80's) row numbering, 112344 top down. If a row has the same profile as another row (function and numeric both R1, shift and ctrl rows both R4), it does not get a different number.
I'll just assume you were asking where to find the 1.5 esc and backspace. I have had a few non branded terminal boards with them and a couple Wyse / Reynolds / Link, and also I currently own a G80-499 that has them. The terminal ones are not that hard to find, and often cheap on ebay or from electronics recyclers. Good luck on the vintage Cherry models.

Title: Key size for Kbtrace?
Post by: Human on Mon, 05 March 2012, 00:04:12

Quote from: lysol;535378

What is R5? I wish everyone would follow the long established (at least since mid 80's) row numbering, 112344 top down. If a row has the same profile as another row (function and numeric both R1, shift and ctrl rows both R4), it does not get a different number.
I'll just assume you were asking where to find the 1.5 esc and backspace. I have had a few non branded terminal boards with them and a couple Wyse / Reynolds / Link, and also I currently own a G80-499 that has them. The terminal ones are not that hard to find, and often cheap on ebay or from electronics recyclers. Good luck on the vintage Cherry models.

I am serious with the R5 part. Afaik, kbt use R5 on their f-keys as they claim that such way is more ergonomic.

Title: Key size for Kbtrace?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 05 March 2012, 00:36:58

Oh, the super tall function row? Yuck.

Title: Key size for Kbtrace?
Post by: net2522 on Mon, 05 March 2012, 01:15:38

Quote from: lysol;535449

Oh, the super tall function row? Yuck.

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