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Title: Wired stabilizers good ? Bad?
Post by: GODJOEY on Mon, 19 March 2012, 13:07:15
Hello first off thank you for such a great site I just recently purchased a Filco cherry mx black recently after a lot of research on this site. I just picked up a Leopold cherry mx red and I noticed immediately the larger buttons some not all have no bottoming clack and more of a mushy feel. I contacted elitekeyboards and they stated they are using wired stabilizers and may be a little stiff but will loosen up. I notice on the Filco all the keys feel and sound the same compared to my leopold not bad but is this something that can loosen up later or will I have to possibly grease it as the support stated. I saw in one of the reviews that the leopolds were using cherry mx stabilizers this is the only reason I'm asking.

"These larger keys have wire stabilizers in them that might be a little
stiff. The tend to loosen up over time, but may need some grease. We can
send you some if you're interested." - Elitekeyboards.com
Title: Wired stabilizers good ? Bad?
Post by: Ahlitah on Mon, 19 March 2012, 13:24:24
since when do Leopolds have wire stabalizers?

They use Cherry Style stabalizers.

Costar on the other hand uses Wire stabilizers! which is whats in your Filco.
Title: Wired stabilizers good ? Bad?
Post by: GODJOEY on Mon, 19 March 2012, 14:07:50
Thank you ripster for your welcome, thank you Ahlitah for the info. Any pros and cons on either one durability?
Title: Wired stabilizers good ? Bad?
Post by: miscreation on Mon, 19 March 2012, 14:14:35
Quote from: Ahlitah;550664
since when do Leopolds have wire stabalizers?

They use Cherry Style stabalizers.

Costar on the other hand uses Wire stabilizers! which is whats in your Filco.

Cherry Stabilizers (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:12649#Piece-O-Cake+-+Pulling+Cherry+Corp+stabilizer+keys) have a wire that connects the two posts that go into the keycap.

As for the stabilized keys on the Leopolds, I rather like the way they feel, though I use the brown switch on both of mine.  After my first one developed a squeak on the left shift key, I put some grease on it and cleared it up--but it didn't really change the feel of the switch any.
Title: Wired stabilizers good ? Bad?
Post by: megnin on Tue, 20 March 2012, 19:48:28
"Nothing here is what it seems."

Here is a Filco with Cherry stabilizers, not Costar wire stabilizers.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]45134[/ATTACH]
This is my Bluetooth Filco with MX Browns that I got three or four years ago.  I just tonight received a new space bar to replace the the shiny one on it and when I removed the old space bar I was shocked to see Cherry stabilizers.
Title: Wired stabilizers good ? Bad?
Post by: sordna on Tue, 20 March 2012, 20:36:22
I didn't like the different feel of cherry-stabilized keys in my Poker, and my solution was to put 50A durometer o-rings on the rest of the keys. It actually resulted in an almost perfectly homogenous feel! No more clack clack thud, clack clack thud. It's thud, thud, thud. Gotta have either all clacks, or all thuds in a keyboard ... consistency is important for a good-feeling keyboard!
Title: Wired stabilizers good ? Bad?
Post by: Human on Tue, 20 March 2012, 21:38:49
Quote from: megnin;551867
"Nothing here is what it seems."

Here is a Filco with Cherry stabilizers, not Costar wire stabilizers.
(Attachment) 45134[/ATTACH]
This is my Bluetooth Filco with MX Browns that I got three or four years ago.  I just tonight received a new space bar to replace the the shiny one on it and when I removed the old space bar I was shocked to see Cherry stabilizers.
And the stem spacing is similar to the one found in SS7G and Leopold 200R?
Title: Wired stabilizers good ? Bad?
Post by: megnin on Tue, 20 March 2012, 21:47:06
I just yanked a space bar off a Leopold 200R and the stem spacing it identical.
Title: Wired stabilizers good ? Bad?
Post by: REVENGE on Tue, 20 March 2012, 21:57:10
Quote from: megnin;551867
"Nothing here is what it seems."

Here is a Filco with Cherry stabilizers, not Costar wire stabilizers.
(Attachment) 45134[/ATTACH]
This is my Bluetooth Filco with MX Browns that I got three or four years ago.  I just tonight received a new space bar to replace the the shiny one on it and when I removed the old space bar I was shocked to see Cherry stabilizers.
BT Filco was probably not Costar.
Title: Wired stabilizers good ? Bad?
Post by: Zamorph on Tue, 20 March 2012, 22:04:18
From what I hear, cherry gets more life, but I have not seen costar's style break soo...