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Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Thu, 29 March 2012, 13:29:52

A wise man told me that once I start typing on a KMAC, I would throw away all my other keyboards...   and you know what, if it wasn't for some sentimental reason, I would've done just that (already traded my Filco Limited Edition reds with a Type-S).  So I got the "winkeyless" version meaning no Windows keys at all and also there were 2 color choices, silver or titanium.  I opted for the later.  It doesn't come fully assembled and since I have neither the time nor the equipment (soldering iron being one of them), I had someone else do them for me...  and yes, the switches have been sticker modded and also lubricated.

You can see some pics of the assembly here (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3706757#35) (pics might take awhile to load) and also it's the silver one.

After 8 months, the Red Alert set finally came in for sixty so I thought I combine both of them here together.  The RA set is beautiful and has many combinations (for ANSI, ISO, full, tenkeyless, etc).  The packaging was efficient and it arrived reasonably quick (all the way from Berlin).  The set also includes any defective keycaps and their replacement, etc.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/Red%20Alert/DSC07472.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/Red%20Alert/DSC07480.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/Red%20Alert/DSC07462.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/Red%20Alert/DSC07459.jpg)

With LEDs on, you can see the underglow effect on RA set.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/Red%20Alert/DSC07485.jpg)

This thing is heavy even though it's has aluminum case.
Tipping off the scale at 3.74 Lbs.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07398.jpg)

Cherry MX black w/ 55g springs

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07386.jpg)

Switches w/ LEDs

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07388.jpg)

More pics with LEDs lit up..  now I'm not a big fan of keyboards with LEDs but these are beautiful.  They're very subdued and not overly bright as you can see below

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07413.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07415.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07417.jpg)

Full shot with Ascaii's doubleshot set & Caps Lock key from Reptile

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07418.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07420.jpg)

Feet are consisting of 2 parts, the thick washers and the nuts

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/Red%20Alert/DSC07540.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/Red%20Alert/DSC07541.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/Red%20Alert/DSC07544.jpg)

Rubber strip to prevent it from sliding and Allen bolts

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/Red%20Alert/DSC07546.jpg)

USB cutout and the port

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07407.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/DSC07449.jpg)

Now, there were some delay due to the fact that the KMAC organizers weren't too happy when the first few batches arrived.  The colors on the 2 pieces didn't match (top and bottom frames) so they had to send the whole original batch back and wait for the new batch.  Last I've seen they're selling off these off-color 2 tones at a discount price over at Korean keyboards enthusiast forums (where whiskerBox frequents a lot these days lol).

Now I was told that the 2 tone color on the frames couldn't be fixed and that they're not going to make them in titanium anymore on the next group buy.  TBH, on mine, I can't really tell the difference too much unless I'm looking at it from an angle with some bright/natural light shining on the case.  Anyone else got the same color please post some pics of your frames.

Earlier pic of the frames (the ones they sent back)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/a02.jpg)

That's it for now and if you have any question please let me know.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: tsangan on Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:11:42

Gorgeous looking! Yeah once you go into the realm of customs the normal ones just aren't the same haha

BTW silver > titanium I already told BiNi this :rofl:

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:23:45

Meh, I like my titanium anyway. :fish:  Here's a pic of the silver one (borrowed from Taeyoung).

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BsyXGQGKT2I/T0rX2dqgOzI/AAAAAAAAJ-o/kVEYqJmJbUM/s912/SDC10309.JPG)

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: ekw808 on Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:29:43

Where do i get one O_O

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: whiskerBox on Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:29:52

So jealous Reaper!

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: demik on Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:33:49

Great choice in color reaper.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:34:08

Quote from: ekw808;560621

Where do i get one O_O

Quote from: whiskerBox;560622

So jealous Reaper!

They just started selling the ones with mismatched color frames here (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3850267#1).  Find a proxy in Korea to see whether you can get one or not.  If not, I've read that us and DT "might be" included in the next group buy...  keep your fingers crossed.

Whisker, you should know this since you posted there a couple times now. =P

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: demik on Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:37:15

did you see the 456?

150 sets sold in minutes O.O

And welcome to The Korean Custom Keyboard Club!

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: snowboarder3 on Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:54:46

Beautiful keyboard. Bummer it has blacks.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: Kisakuku on Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:55:53

Quote from: snowboarder3;560662

Beautiful keyboard. Bummer it has blacks.

Blacks with 50g springs aren't blacks.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 29 March 2012, 14:58:33

are 50g springs clear springs?

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: demik on Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:00:53

it's a custom spring if im not mistaken.

clears are 55, blacks 60 and reds 45. so, not as light as a red, but not as heavy as a black.

topre is MX form?

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: limmy on Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:13:31

Quote from: mkawa;560671

are 50g springs clear springs?

It is likely that they are custom springs. Also, I think clear springs are much heavier(require much more force to depress) than 50g.

I wonder if I should try to get one this time.. The pricing of the so-called defective package is 220000 KRW (about 200 USD) However, even if you get a hold of the package(I think it would be tough to get one), you would still need to get parts such as switches, stabilizers, and key caps not to mention you would have to assemble it yourself or have some one do it for you at about $50 (or more if you want more things done on your board).

From the picture, I see the switches are sticker modded, possibly lubricated. I lubricated my Poker with Krytox and it feels very different and smooth. It also sounds different (very little rattling noise).

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:28:20

i have no idea what you're talking about

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: limmy on Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:34:50

Quote from: ripster;560702

A 62g compression spring is a 62g compression spring.  Hooke's law.

Even if it is gold.

I don't know what you mean..

OP states it is 50g spring and I said I think it is custom spring and 50g spring is different from springs from clears.

And why are you suddenly talking about 62g spring and Hooke's law? If you are talking about the reason for custom springs, I believe it is because they want different force. They are not making clones of Cherry original springs with same specification from just different materials.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:34:56

i know what a spring is. what does all this rambling have to do with reaper's KMAC? those are obviously not the ones in his keyboard since he said they were 50g.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: demik on Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:37:55

oh no, the old ripster is trying to come out!!!!

nobody is arguing that a gold spring is better than w/e material is currently used. mkawa was just asking if 50g spring was also a clear spring, which we already answered him.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:40:20

Haha before you guys start tripping on the springs, let me double check my source first. ><

And yes, it doesn't feel like black at all.  More like reds if you ask me.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:42:30

clearly, ripster has recently become obsessed with david byrne and has decided to take "stop making sense" to heart.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:51:49

there's no way a clear is a 100g spring. where did you get that data from? my spares are a couple states away, but i'm guessing they're around 70g

anyway i had no idea the koreans were getting custom springs made in any material, much less gold. it seems like cherry ships a compatible spring at every reasonable point between 40g and 70g or so, so it seems unnecessary, but despite the physics 101 description of spring behavior, there are probably many subtleties to coil spring design, even at this scale, soooo

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 29 March 2012, 15:56:01

no, i refuse this request.

-SENT FROM MY "SMART" PHONE (lol it is really bright really)

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 29 March 2012, 16:06:03

Quote from: ripster;560763

Well, if you don't actually READ my posts and CLICK the links how bright does that make you?

PHONE HAS REACHED SELF-AWARENESS

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Thu, 29 March 2012, 16:10:20

Quote from: ripster;560748

Reaper, where did your 50g number come from?  RipOmeter (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:6189) or the Koreans?

Sorry but it's 55g springs from my source.  I corrected the review already.  Sorry for the typo everyone.  Didn't mean to cause such a commotion. lol

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: limmy on Thu, 29 March 2012, 16:11:48

Quote from: ripster;560725

These.

Show Image

(http://i.imgur.com/JhvjE.jpg)

 Or do you mean Hooke's Law?  Here:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?22025-TIL-%28Today-I-Learned%29-Ripster-Trivia-Of-The-Day&p=451816&viewfull=1#post451816

When you use photos that do not belong to you, you should cite sources.

That spring is from recent group buy by KBDMania syryan. It is gold plated for cool factor only and it stands out from other springs(helps distinguishing). That is what syryan said.

However, when he plated gold on to those spring, he did it in a way that doesn't affect uniformness as some plating process can cause randomness in the forces, hence there had to be price increase.

If you don't know what it is and how it is, please don't fool yourself by saying something irrelevant.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 29 March 2012, 16:14:40

Quote from: reaper;560773

Sorry but it's 55g springs from my source.  I corrected the review already.  Sorry for the typo everyone.  Didn't mean to cause such a commotion. lol

no worries. we're just screwing around. so freaking jealous of the keyboard. going to see if i can find a korean proxy for one of the "defective" kits..

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: demik on Thu, 29 March 2012, 16:28:26

Quote from: ripster;560748

I'm actually trying to figure out THIS post.

You mean activation force right?

Reaper, where did your 50g number come from?  RipOmeter (http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:6189) or the Koreans?

yeah, activation force. sorry.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Thu, 29 March 2012, 16:53:11

Quote from: mkawa;560776

no worries. we're just screwing around. so freaking jealous of the keyboard. going to see if i can find a korean proxy for one of the "defective" kits..

You know, for that price...  I'd get another one. lol

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 29 March 2012, 17:35:06

i'll let you know if i manage to find a hookup...

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: keyboardlover on Thu, 29 March 2012, 17:37:43

Wow sick board Reaper! Congrats!

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Thu, 29 March 2012, 17:40:38

Quote from: limmy;560775

When you use photos that do not belong to you, you should cite sources.

That spring is from recent group buy by KBDMania syryan. It is gold plated for cool factor only and it stands out from other springs(helps distinguishing). That is what syryan said.

However, when he plated gold on to those spring, he did it in a way that doesn't affect uniformness as some plating process can cause randomness in the forces, hence there had to be price increase.

Thanks for the clarification, limmy.   I think I may have seen you posting over at KBDMania a lot.  It's good to know that we have some members from there posting here as well. =)

Quote from: mkawa;560853

i'll let you know if i manage to find a hookup...

I hope you find one.  Good luck! =)

Quote from: keyboardlover;560856

Wow sick board Reaper! Congrats!

Thanks KL! =)

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: jonnybastard on Thu, 29 March 2012, 20:50:57

Sheeeeet that's the best keyboard I've seen since I've been here  :hail:

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Thu, 29 March 2012, 21:18:55

Heh, thanks.  I'm sure you've seen better. =P  Anyway, right now I'm using that red acrylic keyboard since I just got the spacebar. lol

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: kaiserreich on Thu, 29 March 2012, 22:24:39

What spacebar is it?

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Thu, 29 March 2012, 22:27:01

A 7unit spacebar. You can get it from  Cherry black on white DS set.  Now where's yours? ;)

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: kaiserreich on Fri, 30 March 2012, 01:03:06

At the customs.
Should be here by Sunday =)

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Fri, 30 March 2012, 01:29:30

Please make sure to post some pics.  Can't wait to see it. =P

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 30 March 2012, 14:48:11

Congrats reaper, your KMAC looks awesome.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Fri, 30 March 2012, 16:06:06

Thanks RiGs.  Wait till you guys see kaissereich's. =P

Edit: Red Alert set came in...  Pics in OP. =P

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: litster on Sat, 31 March 2012, 17:44:36

I am so jelly!  How come I haven't received my red alert set yet?  Reaper, you are in LA, right?

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sat, 31 March 2012, 17:51:09

Yup, same as demik, kick, sherryton, etc. =P  I'm sure you'll get yours soon.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: litster on Sat, 31 March 2012, 17:55:46

Anyone else in the USA who haven't received your red alert set yet, if you ordered a red alert set from sixty?

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: Kisakuku on Sat, 31 March 2012, 17:59:29

Me, because sixty demanded I pay with unspeakable favors.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: tsangan on Sat, 31 March 2012, 18:03:46

Quote from: litster;562831

Anyone else in the USA who haven't received your red alert set yet, if you ordered a red alert set from sixty?

I don't know where my set is, but I do know its not in my hands yet

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sat, 31 March 2012, 18:23:34

Did you guys get the tracking numbers from sixty?


Sent from iPhone

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: litster on Sat, 31 March 2012, 18:25:15

No.  No tracking number.  No PM that said it is on the way :-(

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sat, 31 March 2012, 18:29:27

I got the tracking numbers from sixty and it came in through NY.  Custom there released it way faster than their west coast counterpart (my KMAC came in at LAX and the custom took their sweet time before they release it lol).

Might wanna pm sixty again to see if he has any tracking numbers for your set.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sat, 31 March 2012, 20:40:21

Quote from: demik;560635

did you see the 456?

150 sets sold in minutes O.O

11 minutes to be exact and you have to take quizzes before you can place an order. ><

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: Ovoxo on Sat, 31 March 2012, 20:47:55

god that looks amazing with the red alert set!

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sat, 31 March 2012, 22:41:38

Thanks and yup, I'm pretty happy with it.  Guess you could say it was worth waiting 7 - 8 months for it. lol

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: hashbaz on Sat, 31 March 2012, 22:58:14

I've never understood the fuss over the red alerts... but that number row really ties the set together.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 31 March 2012, 23:02:44

456? do tell

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sat, 31 March 2012, 23:25:39

Quote from: hashbaz;563076

I've never understood the fuss over the red alerts... but that number row really ties the set together.

There are just some many keys and options available when you include the add-on kit and to me, that's what makes it worth the price and the wait. =)

Quote from: mkawa;563081

456? do tell

You need a history lesson (http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=255) first. =P

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 01 April 2012, 00:32:44

ok now i need to know how to buy one ;) (a 456...)

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sun, 01 April 2012, 01:52:40

Well then let me quote what was posted in this thread again..

Quote

They just started selling the ones with mismatched color frames here (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/3850267#1).  Find a proxy in Korea to see whether you can get one or not.  If not, I've read that us and DT "might be" included in the next group buy...  keep your fingers crossed.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: jwaz on Sun, 01 April 2012, 02:31:20

the 356CL dark grey with Dolch and RGB has to be my favorite keyboard of all time.

that being said the ti Kmac is totally on that level. Put a dolch set and the new RGBs on it! I need a new background :p

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sun, 01 April 2012, 02:45:18

Unfortunately I don't have any Dolch set lying around but if you have one, please let me know.  I'll buy it from you. =P


Sent from iPhone

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: kaiserreich on Sun, 01 April 2012, 03:47:04

Quote from: reaper;563181

Well then let me quote what was posted in this thread again..

Sold out within minutes (I think it was 2 minutes)
The organizer then re-run the group buy with the remaining 6 winkeyless titanium. Gone within 1 minute.

Tell me more about the 456?

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: Input Nirvana on Sun, 01 April 2012, 05:09:26

The Red Alert looks absolutely awesome! So does the entire keyboard. It's very impressive. Hats off to a great project! This is the type of keyboard you buy someone as a gift and they keep forever.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: demik on Sun, 01 April 2012, 05:23:02

Quote from: JesuswasaZombie;563208

the 356CL dark grey with Dolch and RGB has to be my favorite keyboard of all time.

that being said the ti Kmac is totally on that level. Put a dolch set and the new RGBs on it! I need a new background :p

going to have to disagree.

while the kmac is a nice keyboard.

the 356 series is on it's own level.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: limmy on Sun, 01 April 2012, 06:57:07

Quote from: demik;563278

going to have to disagree.

while the kmac is a nice keyboard.

the 356 series is on it's own level.

Did you try them both? You must be a member of OTD.

I heard the designer of 356 series had put in a lot of thoughts in them. But it seems they are not obtainable and not many people have tried them. I even heard the new series is advised not to be traded outside the community. I guess it is probably why the series is not circulated.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sun, 01 April 2012, 09:19:59

No wonder I've never seen pictures of it ouside OTD or someone's claim to have one.  The 456 is just as difficult to obtain, I suppose.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 01 April 2012, 09:53:03

;`(

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sun, 01 April 2012, 10:16:27

If you do get one, you'll probably have to agree on some strict NDA or something. =P  No photos outside the community! =o

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: kaiserreich on Sun, 01 April 2012, 10:18:57

(http://i.imgur.com/Wu5BS.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Kukgj.jpg)

Proof of membership

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: litster on Sun, 01 April 2012, 10:42:19

Anyone knows the relationship between OTD and KBDMania?  Are people generally members of both forums?  Or you can only be on one or the other?  KBDMania seems to be much more open than OTD, based on what you guys said about the 456 exclusivity and the fact that a few US folks have the KMAC.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sun, 01 April 2012, 10:54:02

Nah, I don't think they hate each other (but I could be wrong on this one lol) and you can be member on both communities although OTD is more strict since they require you to activate your account via cellphone or something.  I've heard stories of "keyboard whisperers" or people that actually talk to their keyboards. :shocked:  I guess that's how obsessed some of them have become.  rip, you should be the first resident keyboard whisperer here. lol

I'm gonna start talking to mine. :bolt:

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: litster on Sun, 01 April 2012, 11:11:19

Quote from: reaper;563464

rip, you should be the first keyboard whisperer here. lol

Don't get him started.  He is going to start telling us what his keyboards tell him.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 01 April 2012, 11:12:02

holy ****! DT and GH are a kiddy pool compared to that rant. must be all the alcohol over there.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: litster on Sun, 01 April 2012, 11:12:58

ripster, was that rant posted  here on geekhack?

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sun, 01 April 2012, 11:15:28

Quote from: litster;563493

Don't get him started.  He is going to start telling us what his keyboards tell him.

Haha that would be hilarious.  =D

Anyway, the KMAC continues to impress me.  it feels very quick and agile when I type. I'm used to the black switches and this one feels lighter (almost like reds but not quite). All in all, I really like it. There are a few quirks here and there. For example, the LED lights on the KMAC stay on all the time even when I turn off my computer!  I was told that there might be a firmware update to fix that.  I'll continue to post my impression of it here along with any other issue I may find. =)

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 01 April 2012, 11:16:45

Quote from: reaper;563501

Haha that would be hilarious.  =D

Anyway, the KMAC continues to impress me.  it feels very quick and agile when I type. I'm used to the black switches and this one feels lighter (almost like reds but not quite). All in all, I really like it. There are a few quirks here and there. For example, the LED lights on the KMAC stay on all the time even when I turn off my computer!  I was told that there might be a firmware update to fix that.  I'll continue to post my impression of it here along with any other issue I may find. =)

sounds like it's defective and unusable reaper; better sell it to me!

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: Awful on Sun, 01 April 2012, 11:18:08

Man those caps are nice, as is the board ofc. I wish I could buy one of the messed up cases :O

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sun, 01 April 2012, 11:21:04

Quote from: mkawa;563504

sounds like it's defective and unusable reaper; better sell it to me!

Nice try. :fish:  But like I said before, once we start to have more and more of these imported keyboards trickle in, there's more chance of you seeing one of them pop up in Classifieds (either here or on DT).  I wouldn't be surprised at all if that happens. =)

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 01 April 2012, 11:37:38

Quote from: reaper;563511

Nice try. :fish:  But like I said before, once we start to have more and more of these imported keyboards trickle in, there's more chance of you seeing one of them pop up in Classifieds (either here or on DT).  I wouldn't be surprised at all if that happens. =)

hah! well, hopefully i can find a proxy before then.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: whiskerBox on Sun, 01 April 2012, 11:43:48

I just love the OTD hand keys! Next time you get a chance to get some grab an extra send it over to me :juggle:

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sun, 01 April 2012, 11:45:17

^ Will do.  ;)

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: tsangan on Sun, 01 April 2012, 17:07:50

Quote from: reaper;563464

Nah, I don't think they hate each other (but I could be wrong on this one lol) and you can be member on both communities although OTD is more strict since they require you to activate your account via cellphone or something.

I wonder how I made a OTD account so easily before then :rofl:

I posted on there a few times, they didn't like my english :(

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Sun, 01 April 2012, 17:22:11

i believe my buddy made an account on OTD recently, and he doesn't have a korean cell#..

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: jwaz on Sun, 01 April 2012, 17:41:55

wait the PCB thickness is based on the switch type for 356... that's intense

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Sun, 01 April 2012, 22:49:21

Yeah, I'd give my right arm just to own one. :eek:   Oh but wait...  then I won't be able to type. lol

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 02 April 2012, 00:25:47

good news: i kind of have a korean proxy. bad news: everything is completely sold out

lolz!

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Mon, 02 April 2012, 00:40:31

Stay in touch with them until next round. ;)

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 02 April 2012, 00:45:53

yep, he's already asked about that for me ;)

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Mon, 02 April 2012, 09:49:23

Cool. Hope you get one on the next round...  we need more members in that KCK Club. :biggrin:

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: kaiserreich on Mon, 02 April 2012, 10:02:43

Quote from: tsangan;563785

I wonder how I made a OTD account so easily before then :rofl:

I posted on there a few times, they didn't like my english :(

When in Rome.....





use the google translator :rockon:

Quote from: mkawa;563801

i believe my buddy made an account on OTD recently, and he doesn't have a korean cell#..

Enlighten me please

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: tsangan on Mon, 02 April 2012, 10:08:46

Quote from: kaiserreich;564581

Enlighten me please

I have a OTD account :P

See! My post http://www.otd.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=album&wr_id=98233&sca=%EC%A0%9C%ED%92%88%2F%EC%A0%95%EB%AC%BC&sfl=wr_10&stx=&page=22

Webwit is on there too

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: litster on Mon, 02 April 2012, 10:40:28

I finally also created my OTD account.  There isn't an English forum there, is it?

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Mon, 02 April 2012, 11:10:10

Hmm.. I haven't seen it but I could be wrong.

Oh and thanks for the tips, litster. ;)

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: hashbaz on Mon, 02 April 2012, 13:50:29

Quote from: tsangan;564584

I have a OTD account :P

See! My post http://www.otd.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=album&wr_id=98233&sca=%EC%A0%9C%ED%92%88%2F%EC%A0%95%EB%AC%BC&sfl=wr_10&stx=&page=22

Webwit is on there too

The Koreans like my RGBYs. :D

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Mon, 02 April 2012, 15:43:32

Quote from: kaiserreich;564581

Enlighten me please

it's possible he does. i don't know. he said he would make me one. i guess i'll know more when that happens.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Wed, 04 April 2012, 00:48:01

Since this is KMAC related, thought you guys might enjoy some new pics of KMAC in different colors (borrowed from KBDMania, credit goes to 김재연):

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/k4.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/k5.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/k1.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/k2.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/k3.jpg)

My favorite is definitely the black/red one. =P

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: tsangan on Wed, 04 April 2012, 00:52:40

I want that purple one really badly ;(

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Wed, 04 April 2012, 00:54:41

Black/red > purple. :fish:

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: litster on Wed, 04 April 2012, 01:07:01

I want one of those carrying cases!!!

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Wed, 04 April 2012, 01:08:38

GROUP BUY!!!


=P

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: Ovoxo on Wed, 04 April 2012, 02:06:49

They all look amazing. But the purple and black/red one are my fav!

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: tobr1an on Tue, 22 May 2012, 20:14:24

Where did you guys even get those keyboard?!@@!@!

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: whiskerBox on Tue, 22 May 2012, 21:01:02

I like the blue one

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: keyboardlover on Tue, 22 May 2012, 21:04:20

Quote from: whiskerBox;598012

I like the blue one

^ I'm w/ this guy :)

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: jrockroll on Wed, 23 May 2012, 14:09:48

I heard that 456 is only exclusive to the members of OTD only.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: reaper on Wed, 23 May 2012, 17:14:40

Yeah, I'm also a member there but doubt if I'll ever find one. lol

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 25 May 2012, 09:44:44

i think the only way we're going to get access to the OTD stuff is if we make things that are even cooler than theirs and barter

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: Djuzuh on Fri, 25 May 2012, 09:45:37

me too !

When will phantom finish so we can launch another project? :D

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: HolidaySHRIMP on Fri, 25 May 2012, 09:57:11

Ok my friends gf lives in Korea and is coming next month. I need links to where I can buy this. My best friend is going again in September for his brother in laws wedding also. Wish I had known about keyboards when I went last June! My gf is korean and can translate for me.

Tldr give me links on where to buy.

I'll try to buy a few extras first time around. I'll buy a lot next time around.

Edit: looks like its not going to be easy lol

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: Djuzuh on Fri, 25 May 2012, 10:01:33

Even if you are korean those boards are hard to get. Compare them to click clack keys on this forum.

You'll find more info in this thread:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?31628-Proxy-for-purchasing-Korean-keyboards-from-KBDMania-OTD-etc

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: inlikeflynn on Tue, 29 May 2012, 06:07:58

does anyone know what kind of stabilizers the winkey KMAC uses?

I've seen pictures of the winkeyless boards which have Cherry stabilizers, but nothing of the winkey boards.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: litster on Tue, 29 May 2012, 10:05:30

Same as winkey KMAC - Cherry PCB mount stabilizers.  The only different is the spacebar one.  Winkey spacebar is 6.25x wide.  Winkeyless spacebar is 7x wide.

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: inlikeflynn on Tue, 29 May 2012, 13:46:19

Quote from: litster;602782

Same as winkey KMAC - Cherry PCB mount stabilizers.  The only different is the spacebar one.  Winkey spacebar is 6.25x wide.  Winkeyless spacebar is 7x wide.

Thanks lister! I just wanted to confirm to see if I needed the universal spacebar then as well from the Wyse GB

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: litster on Tue, 29 May 2012, 15:02:04

I don't have a picture of the KMAC mounting plate and I don't have access to one now.  But on the KMAC winkey PCB, there are two positions for the spacebar switch.  

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=49421&d=1335671649)

BTW, who is lister?  Does he know demilk?

Title: KMAC with Red Alert set from sixty
Post by: inlikeflynn on Tue, 29 May 2012, 15:06:36

Quote from: litster;603112

BTW, who is lister?  Does he know demilk?

dammit :tape:
I have dyslexia today sorry about that litster

I am confused now though. Will a standard FILCO like 6.25 sparebar fit the winkey KMAC? Or does it need the newer style universal 6.25 sparebar to fit the winkey KMAC?