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Title: New apple's patent
Post by: czarek on Wed, 04 April 2012, 04:04:28
Seen this?
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/02/23/apple_wants_to_reinvent_keyboards_making_them_even_thinner.html
Looks like it's even crapier than the current ones!
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: aerial on Wed, 04 April 2012, 04:38:14
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...making them even thinner

this is their motto, with everything
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: Ekaros on Wed, 04 April 2012, 04:42:10
Is that pretty much same as those plastic membrane keyboards?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Membrane_keyboard Does the picture have any similarity?
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: czarek on Wed, 04 April 2012, 04:48:16
Yeah it indeed looks like the old 8 bit Atari, which was the worst keyboard I touched :D
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: oneproduct on Wed, 04 April 2012, 06:25:35
Aren't their single support arms just a copy of the arms used in typewriters and telegraphs?
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: Daniel Beaver on Wed, 04 April 2012, 09:08:57
I, for one, have always desired a keyboard that used the same sort of buttons that microwaves use!
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: mcgci5450 on Wed, 04 April 2012, 09:15:11
Thats very funny, the microwave comment. Hey maybe it could beep at you when you pressed buttons too!
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: Crake on Wed, 04 April 2012, 11:04:58
I do not understand the Apple craze.  They seem anti-computer and instead of being user friendly, they are anything but.
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: sth on Wed, 04 April 2012, 11:09:01
Quote from: Crake;566601
I do not understand the Apple craze.  They seem anti-computer and instead of being user friendly, they are anything but.
You must be a COBOL programmer.
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: jblack801 on Wed, 04 April 2012, 11:09:41
Apple is the heart of bad business. They've got it down to a science. Their goal is to put everyone out of business eventually. And in the meantime, they've built a strong following that will, literally, love whatever they release without question.
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: sth on Wed, 04 April 2012, 11:11:05
Quote from: jblack801;566607
Apple is the heart of bad business. They've got it down to a science. Their goal is to put everyone out of business eventually. And in the meantime, they've built a strong following that will, literally, love whatever they release without question.

That sounds like pretty damned good business to me.
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Post by: phormality on Wed, 04 April 2012, 11:43:35
Quote from: jblack801;566607
Apple is the heart of bad business. They've got it down to a science. Their goal is to put everyone out of business eventually. And in the meantime, they've built a strong following that will, literally, love whatever they release without question.

The goal of any public company is to increase value for the shareholders.  Apple has done this better than any company on Earth.  In that sense, it is very good business.

Jobs always said it was his goal to make great products, that's it.  It seems people actually wanted great products instead of cheaper and cheaper products... or just the same old thing over again.  Can you really blame people for wanting an iPhone over a Palm Treo in 2007?  Or a MacBook Air over a Netbook?

They've had a few misses over the years.  The AppleTV is still just a hobby project.  The Apple HiFi didn't last long.  The puck mouse with the G3 iMac was awful.  Jobs and Ive really were able to hit a lot of home runs though.  When you don't make a lot of different products, the ones you do make better be good.
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Post by: Ekaros on Wed, 04 April 2012, 14:25:17
Problem with Apple sometimes is form over functionality and the fact they aren't as free as others. I prefer to mess up with my stuff and pay bare minimum mark-up...
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: sordna on Wed, 04 April 2012, 15:28:55
Quote from: jblack801;566607
Apple is the heart of bad business. They've got it down to a science. Their goal is to put everyone out of business eventually. And in the meantime, they've built a strong following that will, literally, love whatever they release without question.

To me it sounds like you're describing Microsoft ! Actually Microsoft is even worse, taking open protocols and then twisting their implementation to introduce incompatibilities with other systems on purpose.
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: jblack801 on Wed, 04 April 2012, 15:31:12
Quote from: sordna;566857
To me it sounds like you're describing Microsoft ! Actually Microsoft is even worse, taking open protocols and then twisting their implementation to introduce incompatibilities with other systems on purpose.

Oh I dislike Microsoft as much as I do Apple. However, Microsoft has kind of already moved out of the realm of relevancy. They did this in their hayday, but they've since fallen from the superpower they once were.
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: Squelos on Wed, 04 April 2012, 15:56:20
Quote from: mcgci5450;566488
Thats very funny, the microwave comment. Hey maybe it could beep at you when you pressed buttons too!

yeah, it really looks like the "keys" you could have on a freezer or fridge or any other thing
Title: New apple's patent
Post by: 1395985 on Wed, 04 April 2012, 17:22:37
That's a really stupid amount of key travel, designed for people sucked into this current iDevice & touchscreen obsession. Nice for RSI though... many doctors paid Apple to design this, to up their bottom line.

This isn't "progress", this is fashion dictated crap.

I'll stick to my Model M, thanks all the same though.
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Post by: jwaz on Wed, 04 April 2012, 18:16:25
I understand that "haters gonna hate". But what's with all the conspiracy theories??
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Post by: captain on Wed, 04 April 2012, 18:24:10
Quote from: jblack801;566607
Apple is the heart of bad business. They've got it down to a science. Their goal is to put everyone out of business eventually. And in the meantime, they've built a strong following that will, literally, love whatever they release without question.

I am that choir, and I say ENOUGH!  I was an Apple fanboy LONG before it was "cool" and "hip".  Over the last decade, my patience has worn thin.  I have had it up to my ears with Apple's crapPLE.  I allowed myself to get sucked in to all things Apple a long time ago, but I am finally giving up on them ever getting their heads out of their asses, and allowing us to do with OUR toys what we want.  

That said, I sit here with a Gen1 iPad, and a new Camera Connector Kit (well, I had a store credit, so figured I'd better spend it while I still have crApple products), attached to my Wildcats BS keyboard, merrily typing away.  Brother ripster was right!  If you just ignore the "You cannot use that crap on your Apple iPad!" warning, it just works.

Now, to test it with the HHKB.  That will be a killer combo!  Which will be even better when it's Apple free!  I wonder if you can run Unix on an iPad.....