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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: metafour on Mon, 30 April 2012, 19:06:03
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Has anyone been in contact with BiNiaRiS lately? I ordered some stuff from him a couple of weeks ago and it hasn't arrived and he has not responded to my PMs. When I check his profile page it usually says he's visited recently. Plus he's listed as a mod for one of the subforums so I would imagine he has to have some real interaction with the site regularly.
Thanks
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i let him know
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PM'd broski
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Just got word from him. Thanks everyone!
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PM'd broski
How about me? :/
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I've still haven't received a package and PM responses are non-existent. I realize rollbacks and other things may come into play here but we need to verify what address you've sent the springs to because I haven't received either package. I've also sent another PM to you regarding this.
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Is this for the Phantom GB stuff? He has $100s of my $s too. I am glad to see he has reappeared! I would still like an update on the Phantom GB with any ETAs they can estimate. The last real update in the Phantom GB thread was from early April.
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Is this for the Phantom GB stuff? He has $100s of my $s too. Have we been robbed?! :-o
Keep that kind of **** up and you're phantom order will for sure be shipped last.
Pm'd you meta, sorry for the issues.
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everything captain opens his mouth...
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I had bought some stuff from Bin and is a super reliable seller/ trader. So I can only say good things about him.
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I never know what is going to push people's buttons around here. Sorry to hurt your feelings BiNiaRiS (http://geekhack.org/member.php?10507-BiNiaRiS). I am happy to mitigate my original post, now that you have appeared in forum.
Now, as a geekhack MODERATOR, and someone who is in a business relationship with many of us, do you really think that making threats toward one of your customers, simply for asking a legitimate question, based on another user's *repeated* posts saying that you have gone AWOL, and that he hasn't received items that you promised him, is really the best way to communicate here? I find that very childish and extremely unprofessional.
I had bought some stuff from Bin and is a super reliable seller/ trader. So I can only say good things about him.
I'm glad to hear that cactux. I hope that was just BiNiaRiS blowing off some steam, that he won't carry out his alarming threat, and once he sees that I was merely asking a question, not accusing him of anything, that he'll apologize and get back on track.
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You just don't think before posting.
Wild accusations when there is money and PayPal involved is fukced up
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Captain, you didn't merely ask a question. First thing that came out of your mouth, you immediate implied and accused someone else of something bad right off the bat. TBH you are one of the most annoying people I have every had to meet online. Seriously, you are that annoying. You really need to re-examine your interpersonal skills.
We will just refund your paymentS so we don't have to deal with you. No shirt, no shoes, no service.
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Keep that kind of **** up and you're phantom order will for sure be shipped last.
We will just refund your paymentS so we don't have to deal with you. No shirt, no shoes, no service.
Sorry guys, I can't help myself from saying this... I find this attitude far more concerning than captain's clumsy query. Rule #1 for any in-progress deal, be it group buy or not, is: stay in contact and keep the other party/parties informed.
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We have been keeping the group buy thread up to date. No one else has any problem except captain. We have had to deal with captain's crap in the last few months. You didn't see all the PMs we get from him, aside from his annoying and offensive posts here and all his self-serving, unrealistic requests in everyone's group buys. Our responses here might have surprised you because you see it here the first time. Captain has been doing this ever since he showed up here. When you have to deal with people like captain, you also would rather refund him than to have any contact with him.
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Regardless, threats such as above are NOT the way to deal with any issues you may have with him. I haven't seen all of captain's posts, but I haven't seen any that were truly offensive. Perhaps to some measure your annoyance has built up to the point where some comments are construed as offensive, that might otherwise have passed by without much notice. Clearly he has tested your patience. I don't know. I'm not about to pass judgement on anyone's character or conduct any relationship therapy here.
But, the last update in the GB thread was just after this thread appeared, so you could be more proactive.
And for the record, I would not kick someone off a group buy for being annoying.
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But, the last update in the GB thread was just after this thread appeared, so you could be more proactive.
You imply I wouldn't have updated the phantom thread if this thread wasn't started? You are saying I only updated that thread because of this thread or because captain accused BiNiaRiS robbed us here?
Is this for the Phantom GB stuff? He has $100s of my $s too. Have we been robbed?! :-o
I didn't see this thread until yesterday.
And for the record, I would not kick someone off a group buy for being annoying.
Good to know. I will for sure join your group buy, whatever or whenever it will be. What will it be? When will it be?
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Soarer is a voice of reason and maturity. I hope people will pay attention and emulate.
For the record, my "annoying" PMs to the guys running the Phantom GB were entirely of the nature, "I'm sorry to bug you again; I would like to add another 111 switches to my order. I'm a bit confused: should I get 111 of each color, or just red, blue, and clear, and then a handful of all of the others?" My ignorance of these things a few months ago was patently clear, and it may very well have become annoying to answer so many newb questions.
On the other hand, when I PMed litster directly today, after he publicly disrespected me several times in several threads, to ask him what his problem was with me, he retorted in a stream of vulgarity that, best I can decipher from the non-vulgar words, simply says "You **** are **** **** **** annoying **** ****me!!!!!" Slightly dramatized, but not much to go on toward modifying my communication with him. I'd post the PM, but I have ethics and will not violate a confidence, not even of a rude bully.
I had hoped that people would have had some time to process whatever... and calm down, but apparently not. That is sad. Despite having "annoyed" pretty much every faction at geekhack.org at one point or another, that has rarely, if ever, been my intent--and most everyone recognizes that and extends respect, forgiveness, and even kindness. Sometimes the jovial banter gets out of hand, but rarely does it devolve into truly personal attacks--I believe those are against the rules... It's a shame that the big noise makers here seem to enjoy exercising their egos with belligerence and nastiness toward one person--and it is dismaying that they would tarnish the reputation of all GB runners, not to mention moderators (and indeed iMav's baby here) by abusing their position in both cases--perhaps they forget that there is a person behind the icon here, because I poke fun at myself too. Do they truly believe that I am an alien and have fish swimming inside of my skull??
I really thought that geekhack.org was here to bring newbs out of ignorance, and to welcome them into the fold; not to pummel them to the point they leave in disgust, just as ignorant, and with a newfound distaste for the mechanical keyboard community.
I will leave y'all with one little tip: when someone asks a question that you find offensive, note first that it was a question, and then address it calmly, rationally, and politely with all the respect you would extend to a friend. You may well find that you see eye to eye.
Let me give you an example of how rational calm adults might behave:
captain: Is this for the Phantom GB stuff? He has $100s of my $s too. Have we been robbed?! :-o
litster: Hey, man, I read that as an accusation that we are crooks, please re-word that question ASAP! I've contacted BiNiaRiS and he'll be along in a moment to answer all concerns.
captain: Oh, no! I'm sorry! I didn't mean to imply anything of the sort; just joking around, but a little concerned at the thread here, indicating a failure to communicate. I'll edit my post immediately, and look forward to hearing from BiNiaRiS.
BiNiaRiS: No, of course we aren't crooks! Sorry to be incommunicado for so long . Here is what's happening...."
Taking offense where there was none intended, expressed, or implied, but merely inferred by the reader, and then escalating that emotion with attacks, is immature and antisocial. I will not engage with that kind of behavior.
I expect apologies, and a sea change in attitude at geekhack.org.
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Soarer is a voice of reason. I hope people will pay attention and emulate.
For the record, my "annoying" PMs to the guys running the Phantom GB were entirely of the nature, "I'm sorry to bug you again; I would like to add another 111 switches to my order. I'm a bit confused: should I get 111 of each color, or just red, blue, and clear, and then a handful of all of the others?" My ignorance of these things a few months ago was patently clear, and it may very well have become annoying to answer so many newb questions.
On the other hand, when I PMed litster directly today, after he publicly disrespected me several times in several threads, to ask him what his problem was with me, he retorted in a stream of vulgarity that, best I can decipher from the non-vulgar words, simply says "You **** are **** **** **** annoying **** ****me!!!!!" Slightly dramatized, but not much to go on toward modifying my communication with him. I'd post the PM, but I have ethics and will not violate a confidence, not even of a rude bully.
I had hoped that people would have had some time to process whatever... and calm down, but apparently not. That is sad. Despite having "annoyed" pretty much every faction at geekhack.org at one point or another, that has rarely, if ever, been my intent--and most everyone recognizes that and extends respect, forgiveness, and even kindness. Sometimes the jovial banter gets out of hand, but rarely does it devolve into truly personal attacks--I believe those are against the rules... It's a shame that the big noise makers here seem to enjoy exercising their egos with belligerence and nastiness toward one person--and it is dismaying that they would tarnish the reputation of all GB runners, not to mention moderators (and indeed iMav's baby here) by abusing their position in both cases--perhaps they forget that there is a person behind the icon here, because I poke fun at myself too. Do they truly believe that I am an alien and have fish swimming inside of my skull??
I really thought that geekhack.org was here to bring newbs out of ignorance, and to welcome them into the fold; not to pummel them to the point they leave in disgust, just as ignorant, and with a newfound distaste for the mechanical keyboard community.
I will leave y'all with one little tip: when someone asks a question that you find offensive, note first that it was a question, and then address it calmly, rationally, and politely with all the respect you would extend to a friend. You may well find that you see eye to eye. Taking offense where there was none, and escalating, is immature and antisocial. I will not engage with that kind of behavior.
I expect apologies, and a sea change in attitude at geekhack.org.
Another great example of captain's annoyance.
On the other hand, when I PMed litster directly today, after he publicly disrespected me several times in several threads, to ask him what his problem was with me, he retorted in a stream of vulgarity that, best I can decipher from the non-vulgar words, simply says "You **** are **** **** **** annoying **** ****me!!!!!" Slightly dramatized, but not much to go on toward modifying my communication with him. I'd post the PM, but I have ethics and will not violate a confidence, not even of a rude bully.
Nice try captain.
This is exactly how I replied to him:
Because every ****ing time you open your damn mouth, you offend people. A lot of people do not like you. You don't know you are very annoying, do you?
And you made this up?
You **** are **** **** **** annoying **** ****me!!!!!"
Something wrong with your * key?
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This is not the place to air dirty laundry and grievances. Take it off line guys.
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You imply I wouldn't have updated the phantom thread if this thread wasn't started? You are saying I only updated that thread because of this thread ...
I'm just saying what I see. If it's coincidence, then so be it. But it would appear that it's not just captain who would like to see a bit more communication.
... or because captain accused BiNiaRiS robbed us here?
Now look, it's clear to me and probably most people who read that, that he did not seriously accuse anyone of robbing.
Good to know. I will for sure join your group buy, whatever or whenever it will be. What will it be? When will it be?
No comment, just QFT.
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This is exactly how I replied to him:
Because every ****ing time you open your damn mouth, you offend people. A lot of people do not like you. You don't know you are very annoying, do you?
Now that's offensive. I'm not saying captain is a sweetheart, but really, the way you're reacting to him is not how you'd ever like to be treated. So please, all I'm asking is that you admit, even if only to yourself, that you could've handled this better.
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He asked me why in private message, and I told him straight in private message. I have been around here long enough that most people know I am easy to deal with. It takes someone like captain to piss me off. And he has. I would have the same answer for him if he asks again.
Isn't it nice that he made up his own version?
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He asked me why in private message, and I told him straight in private message. I have been around here long enough that most people know I am easy to deal with. It takes someone like captain to piss me off. And he has. I would have the same answer for him if he asks again.
Isn't it nice that he made up his own version?
Well he clearly has pissed you off. And some time ago, since all the results from searching your posts that mention or quote him are filled with exactly the same sarcasm as you demonstrate here. Why bother hunting him down? It's obviously not good for your blood pressure.
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way to go OT.
if you guys have problems with each other, deal with it over PM.
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way to go OT.
if you guys have problems with each other, deal with it over PM.
Exactly. Remember, OT is not for making personal issues public, nor is it ok for personal attacks.
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And we're done here...