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Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: MMB on Wed, 02 May 2012, 10:11:22
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130689778560&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AMOTORS%3A1123#ht_1693wt_1396

Wish I had the funds for this. Sadly.. I have to let it pass :(
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: tsangan on Wed, 02 May 2012, 10:14:27
I want it for the box :lol:
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: G.C.W. on Wed, 02 May 2012, 10:19:01
I want it for having it for meeeeeeeeee :D
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 02 May 2012, 10:52:04
Quote from: tsangan;588117
I want it for the box :lol:
i'll give you the box if you don't outbid me lol
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: Mugen on Wed, 02 May 2012, 12:47:03
How much do these usually come to?
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: MMB on Wed, 02 May 2012, 13:44:46
There was an Model F a few days back , new in the box that went for $371. So I imagine this would go for a bit more, possibly.
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 02 May 2012, 13:51:14
whaaaa? wasn't comptekw2k selling these nib for around 230 not too long ago?
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: tsangan on Wed, 02 May 2012, 13:52:43
it should be over $400 i think
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: ricercar on Wed, 02 May 2012, 13:54:29
It'll reach $200 undoubtedly.
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 02 May 2012, 14:49:16
woah
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: Heisenberg on Wed, 02 May 2012, 19:26:19
It's a Lexmark right? I assume it's basically the same as a full size blue label but tenkeyless?
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: MMB on Wed, 02 May 2012, 19:56:51
Quote from: Heisenberg;588591
It's a Lexmark right? I assume it's basically the same as a full size blue label but tenkeyless?

No, it's not a Lexmark. Yes, it's the same as a full-sized Model M, minus the tenkey.
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: Heisenberg on Wed, 02 May 2012, 20:19:29
Quote from: MagicMeatball;588618
No, it's not a Lexmark. Yes, it's the same as a full-sized Model M, minus the tenkey.

Thanks for clarifying.
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: Heisenberg on Wed, 02 May 2012, 21:21:17
Quote from: kishy;588658
Er, yes, it IS a Lexmark.

Made in USA in or after 1991 = Lexmark.
The changeover date was in 1991.

Oh hamburgers. I thought all blue labels were Lexmarks, wasn't sure this also applied to SSKs, so that's affirmative? Are all grays post-'91 inclusive Lexmarks as well?

Sorry if it's repetitive, I've read conflicting info so better safe than sorry.
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: bootstrap on Wed, 02 May 2012, 21:54:11
Quote from: kishy;588658
Er, yes, it IS a Lexmark.

Made in USA in or after 1991 = Lexmark.
The changeover date was in 1991.


I've got an SSK made in 1991. But I don't think it was made by Lexmark.

(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j475/epiguru/th_CIMG2699.jpg) (http://s1087.photobucket.com/albums/j475/epiguru/?action=view¤t=CIMG2699.jpg)

(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j475/epiguru/th_CIMG2688.jpg) (http://s1087.photobucket.com/albums/j475/epiguru/?action=view¤t=CIMG2688.jpg)
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: MMB on Wed, 02 May 2012, 22:03:43
IBM Box and case labels made my Lexmark clearly indicate: "Manufactured for IBM by Lexmark"

Case in point:

1993 SSK Made by IBM: http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/9242/subcatid/0/id/175803

1993 SSK Made by Lexmark: http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/9242/subcatid/0/id/155790
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: MMB on Wed, 02 May 2012, 22:14:41
Quote from: kishy;588704
No worries; if you search for this you'll find me making the same mistake about 2 years ago :)

Lexmark acquired IBM's US-based keyboard manufacturing business overall; that doesn't mean they actually changed anything immediately, but it was under their control as early as 1991, which does include some of the gray labels for sure.

1993 is the year when visible changes started appearing, along with new models.
Either way, I don't think it should matter. It's the same manufacturing process, plants, etc. Not sure why people get hung up about the manufacturer.
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: bootstrap on Wed, 02 May 2012, 22:51:03
Quote from: MagicMeatball;588709
Either way, I don't think it should matter. It's the same manufacturing process, plants, etc. Not sure why people get hung up about the manufacturer.


The products may be identical or almost identical. The manufacturer shouldn't be an issue if you intend to use the keyboard and are not worried about its re-sale value. However, if there was a high likelihood of selling the keyboard in the future, I'd take into account general perception of some apparently cosmetic things, e.g. IBM vs Lexmark; Grey label vs Blue label. These factors are important to people to whom I've sold Model Ms and, therefore, to me.
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: Heisenberg on Wed, 02 May 2012, 23:57:04
Ok this one is confusing me, it's blue label but the date is '90. Did he swap cases or something?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/110873243444?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1413
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: HolidaySHRIMP on Thu, 03 May 2012, 08:03:49
How wide are ssk compared to leo tkl? I want one that will fit in my laptop bag

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: bootstrap on Thu, 03 May 2012, 09:01:14
Quote from: HolidaySHRIMP;588939
How wide are ssk compared to leo tkl? I want one that will fit in my laptop bag

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

I just measured the SSK in front of me.

Width of SSK: 15 3/4 inches or 40.0 cm

Sorry I don't have a Leopold TKL.
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 May 2012, 09:18:19
Then, in 1996, IBM bought the division back from Lexmark. My Model M blue label was manufactured in Oct-96 by IBM, not Lexmark, in Greenock.
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: Heisenberg on Thu, 03 May 2012, 17:03:16
So if Lexmark took over in '91 and this board is '92, there's a good chance they haven't made any changes to it (ie. is this Lexmark made or Lexmark designed as well)?
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: Heisenberg on Thu, 03 May 2012, 19:13:47
Is a NIB SSK really that awesome? =D
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: sth on Thu, 03 May 2012, 19:18:30
Unless you're a collector, a germaphobe, or too lazy to clean it yourself, then no.
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 03 May 2012, 19:25:54
Quote from: Heisenberg;589490
Is a NIB SSK really that awesome? =D

I dunno. Is finding something you like, which is no longer produced, that has been sitting unused in new condition in a box for the past 20 years, awesome?!
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: Heisenberg on Thu, 03 May 2012, 20:23:01
Quote from: jdcarpe;589497
I dunno. Is finding something you like, which is no longer produced, that has been sitting unused in new condition in a box for the past 20 years, awesome?!

My concern with buying a non-NIB is that you're buying a 15-20yo used keyboard. Granted the M is built like an AK-47, it's still a used 20yo piece of hardware. With a NIB, chances are that I would be using it for the rest of my life.

Quote from: sth;589492
Unless you're a collector, a germaphobe, or too lazy to clean it yourself, then no.

I've got "the knack", so that's not an issue. Also, I type with latex gloves on, so the germs should be a non-factor.
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: bazemk1979 on Thu, 03 May 2012, 22:42:23
what puzzles me is why are people constantly bidding on the damn keyboard???  are they retarded or something?
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: Heisenberg on Thu, 03 May 2012, 22:47:31
Quote from: bazemk1979;589618
what puzzles me is why are people constantly bidding on the damn keyboard???  are they retarded or something?

Yes.
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: bootstrap on Fri, 04 May 2012, 00:27:08
Quote from: Heisenberg;589535
My concern with buying a non-NIB is that you're buying a 15-20yo used keyboard. Granted the M is built like an AK-47, it's still a used 20yo piece of hardware. With a NIB, chances are that I would be using it for the rest of my life.


Although the SSK is NIB, it may have broken plastic rivets inside, in which case you may have to do a bolt mod to make it last for eternity.
Title: Brand new in box IBM SSK
Post by: captain on Sat, 12 May 2012, 00:19:40
Nice icon Heisenberg!  Welcome to geekhack!  :-)