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Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: inlikeflynn on Wed, 23 May 2012, 10:59:56
yes you read that title right

:jaw: The impossible is now possible for one lucky person

Without a doubt these are the cleanest and nicest looking full key set that SP has ever managed to make.
I've decided though that I personally don't like the look of so much red on my keyboards, so my Ragnarock and Red Alert sets are all going bye bye

So this is the full Red Alert base set which is 170keys and a full list is here as items 1-4 (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/rebel-red-alert-ended-prepare-for-left-over-sets-april-1-t860.html)
This does NOT include the little experimental set though as I didn't purchase that to begin with.

Here are 2 pictures of all the keys. I tried to split them out so that keys which had both a white and gray option are side-by-side for the most part.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]51122[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]51123[/ATTACH]

As you can see from the pictures, these are in mint condition, maybe used 3 days at work so no shine/scuffs/whatever. Quite a few keys were never used at all as I had them on a 10keyless board. The MN guys who saw them at our meetup earlier this month can confirm they look brand new


These will be FOR TRADE ONLY at this time. Cash only offers will not be accepted at this time so don't even send them to me. I may accept a trade+cash option though if that is my best option. If no acceptable trades are found, then these will go up on ebay and you can go crazy there. I really don't want to put them on ebay though after seeing the silly amount just a partial set went for over on deskthority.net

I'm only interested in Cherry MX keycaps or keyboard trades for other rare and unique stuff. Either PM me or post in this thread your trade offer, it doesn't matter.

Thanks,
-inlikeflynn
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: inlikeflynn on Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:00:08
reserved
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: boost on Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:04:24
Pmed
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: G.C.W. on Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:04:35
My offers:

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ibm-model-m-ssk-t2690.html

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/all-must-go-massive-price-drops-t1952.html

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/topre-realforce-103u-uw-for-something-t2612.html
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: i3oilermaker on Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:04:56
PMd
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: metafour on Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:05:36
Longshot here but I've got a blue f2 skull and a set of like new white on black Cherry doubleshots that I'd trade both for the red alert set.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: metafour on Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:13:46
Quote from: t!ng;598419
My offers:

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ibm-model-m-ssk-t2690.html

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/all-must-go-massive-price-drops-t1952.html

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/topre-realforce-103u-uw-for-something-t2612.html

Don't you already have a set?
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: G.C.W. on Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:14:39
I had it. I traded it away ^^
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: reaper on Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:20:19
Good luck Flynn.  Hope you get something interesting and btw, this should go fast.  I already have a set so I'm just gonna pass so someone else can have a shot at it. =P
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: nntnam on Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:23:17
I have a brandnew  Dolch Style/Round 1 sets. Willing to pay more to get your red alert :-).
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: DanGWanG on Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:25:21
PM'd
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: inlikeflynn on Wed, 23 May 2012, 11:34:46
Quote from: reaper;598433
Good luck Flynn.  Hope you get something interesting and btw, this should go fast.  I already have a set so I'm just gonna pass so someone else can have a shot at it. =P

Thanks! yea u guys reaper/tsangan/demik seem to have the majority of the other most interesting stuff, but 2 of 3 already have this set

I should have mentioned in the first post, but I am at work so i'll be slowly responding to people as I can....
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 23 May 2012, 12:00:26
i threw in my offer but imo you should shoot for something otd; keep it in the family :)

oh, i also probably have a built phantom (IN THE FUTURE) to offer if you're into that..
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: MMB on Wed, 23 May 2012, 12:17:46
Where is the red number key row? Or was that not part of the original set?
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: AKIMbO on Wed, 23 May 2012, 12:22:55
I have a feeling if I offered my entire Kb collection it still wouldn't be enough for this set.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: inlikeflynn on Wed, 23 May 2012, 12:35:16
Quote from: MagicMeatball;598482
Where is the red number key row? Or was that not part of the original set?
its not part of the base kit. Those were in the experimental set
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: MMB on Wed, 23 May 2012, 14:07:49
Quote from: inlikeflynn;598492
its not part of the base kit. Those were in the experimental set

They made it look so much better, imo.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: G.C.W. on Wed, 23 May 2012, 15:09:15
Oh , and I can offer a cherry Dye Sub Set, ISO though.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: DanGWanG on Wed, 23 May 2012, 16:22:55
Quote from: t!ng;598604
Oh , and I can offer a cherry Dye Sub Set, ISO though.

You traded away your set and now you want this one? =)  C'mon, let others have a chance at this!
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: G.C.W. on Wed, 23 May 2012, 16:28:12
Sure : )

But if inlikeflynn is interested in my stuff, why not? I am looking for a nice keycap set for my future poker : )
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: shawn o on Wed, 23 May 2012, 16:28:52
I passed up on these. :-|

Just don't get the whole hoarding thing I guess. Either I use it, or I don't and it taking up space in my life!

Better to pass something along to someone else rather than let it sit in a box somewhere slowly deteriorating.

This set has to be worth at least $300-400.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: G.C.W. on Wed, 23 May 2012, 16:36:48
They may be worth this much, but I dont care. It could be a little hype either. I traded them for 2 Topre keysets. I even added $100. It's all about karma...
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: Reptile on Wed, 23 May 2012, 16:48:37
Quote from: shawn o;598647
I passed up on these. :-|

Just don't get the whole hoarding thing I guess. Either I use it, or I don't and it taking up space in my life!

Better to pass something along to someone else rather than let it sit in a box somewhere slowly deteriorating.

This set has to be worth at least $300-400.

Lol idiots would pay that
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: thegunner100 on Wed, 23 May 2012, 16:57:59
They're nice... but honestly, who's gonna pay THAT much for plastic? imsto's thick dyesubs ALL THE WAY!
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: MMB on Wed, 23 May 2012, 17:00:52
Quote from: thegunner100;598661
They're nice... but honestly, who's gonna pay THAT much for plastic? imsto's thick dyesubs ALL THE WAY!

Agreed.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: shawn o on Wed, 23 May 2012, 17:07:47
I guess you could shop around, but where? LOL.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: inlikeflynn on Wed, 23 May 2012, 17:26:07
Quote from: shawn o;598647
This set has to be worth at least $300-400.


Shawn and I were joking last week about these selling for this much on ebay just based on how much the partial set sold for on DT.
I completely agree no one should pay that much cash for them, which is why i'm trying to only do trades. I'm not expecting the trades to be worth that much either. FYI shawn's proposed trade was for quite a bit less than that number, as its the proposed items themselves i'm interested in, not what value they may or may not have on the classifieds...

I have a couple interesting offers out there already, I need to respond to some PM's yet, and I haven't seen some people here which I thought would be.
So nothing decided yet =)
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: demik on Wed, 23 May 2012, 19:02:22
ill trade you my first child's naming rights!

i'd say good luck with trades but.. im sure your inbox is crazy right now that you wont need luck
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 23 May 2012, 19:07:34
i was going to say this morning, after you decide, you should post the rarest/coolest/craziest stuff you were offered lol
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: inlikeflynn on Wed, 23 May 2012, 19:46:04
Quote from: demik;598741
i'd say good luck with trades but.. im sure your inbox is crazy right now that you wont need luck
Surprisingly its not at all like I guessed it would be. You should send me one though =)

Quote from: mkawa;598744
i was going to say this morning, after you decide, you should post the rarest/coolest/craziest stuff you were offered lol
Yea i'll do that, but so far there isn't really that rare being offered :-/
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 23 May 2012, 19:48:20
eh, hold out then. you have the golden ticket, after all...
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: whiskerBox on Wed, 23 May 2012, 21:03:23
Huh nothing to your liking? PM'd earlier today but never heard anything back. Oh well the sets worthless the hand key in my opinion anyways lol
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: inlikeflynn on Wed, 23 May 2012, 21:50:01
Quote from: whiskerBox;598835
Huh nothing to your liking? PM'd earlier today but never heard anything back. Oh well the sets worthless the hand key in my opinion anyways lol

no just had a much busier afternoon at work and evening at home than I was expecting :-/
Responding to all PM's here now....
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: bavman on Wed, 23 May 2012, 22:23:05
Why don't we just run a gb for these here at gh? Theres a crap ton of demand I'm sure without a doubt at least 100 sets would be ordered.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: mkawa on Wed, 23 May 2012, 22:25:42
we can't use their custom legends
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: MMB on Wed, 23 May 2012, 22:26:06
Quote from: bavman;598879
Why don't we just run a gb for these here at gh? Theres a crap ton of demand I'm sure without a doubt at least 100 sets would be ordered.

This has been covered before, and I do believe you were there for that conversation, too. It wouldn't be cool to exactly copy someone else work.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: bavman on Wed, 23 May 2012, 22:28:17
Why not our own version lol? Most of the keys look the same except the red numrow and some of the mod legends

Apparently i missed this conversation
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: nntnam on Thu, 24 May 2012, 00:11:32
Yeah, we can build our own sets with the same color scheme. I think its color scheme, red on pure white, is the most beautiful part.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: fstop on Thu, 24 May 2012, 00:46:59
Quote from: bavman;598884
Why not our own version lol? Most of the keys look the same except the red numrow and some of the mod legends

Apparently i missed this conversation

Custom legends are expensive.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 24 May 2012, 01:09:17
Quote from: fstop;598962
Custom legends are expensive.


It's not a ton of extra legends.  Most of them are SP's standard WYSE font.  The bigger concern is copying the other forums.  It's kind of a **** move.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: longweight on Thu, 24 May 2012, 02:18:20
Quote from: hashbaz;598973
It's not a ton of extra legends.  Most of them are SP's standard WYSE font.  The bigger concern is copying the other forums.  It's kind of a **** move.

I can understand that but they would be different and everyone would know if you had an original set, it's not like this will affect the price or status of the original sets.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: skeaono on Thu, 24 May 2012, 10:49:22
Quote from: hashbaz;598973
It's not a ton of extra legends.  Most of them are SP's standard WYSE font.  The bigger concern is copying the other forums.  It's kind of a **** move.

I don't get it. The Cream Cheese and Green set is sort of "copying the other forums", what's all the fuzz about red and white, which is an even more common colour scheme.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: reaper on Thu, 24 May 2012, 11:01:13
I can see many things wrong with copying the other forums stuff but mainly it's the relationship that we want to keep.  Right now, as you probably may have seen, KBD community is starting to let some of their custom keyboards (namely KMAC) trickle into the US market.  This is a good sign of trust and friendship and if we were to ruin that, by let say copy the Red Alert set, then you can just forget about any future collaborations (not to mention that the new KMAC mini, KMAC pad and the second revision of the KMAC is coming out soon).

Also that Diablo keycaps set (now called Sanctuary) is also another joint venture between members of Geekhack and KBD.  If we were to ruin the relationship by copying one of their keycap set just once, then I'm pretty sure they won't include us in any future designs or group buys.  Think long term instead of just short term. =)
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: hashbaz on Thu, 24 May 2012, 11:38:32
Quote from: longweight;598996
I can understand that but they would be different and everyone would know if you had an original set, it's not like this will affect the price or status of the original sets.

It would definitely affect the price of the original sets, even if we made ours slightly different.  If we want to do a red-on-white/beige set I think that's fine.  But we should not copy their custom legends.  And if we want to do a red number row I think it would be polite to check with whoever ran the original RA buy and make sure they're cool with it.

Quote from: skeaono;599142
I don't get it. The Cream Cheese and Green set is sort of "copying the other forums", what's all the fuzz about red and white, which is an even more common colour scheme.

This is a good point.  I'm not sure how old and how available the original is.  Tsangan does know people in the Korean keyboard community and frequents their forums, so my guess is he has a sense of what is cool and what sacrosanct.  Also he is just using SP's default legends.  The original looked significantly different.

Quote from: reaper;599150
I can see many things wrong with copying the other forums stuff but mainly it's the relationship that we want to keep.  Right now, as you probably may have seen, KBD community is starting to let some of their custom keyboards (namely KMAC) trickle into the US market.  This is a good sign of trust and friendship and if we were to ruin that, by let say copy the Red Alert set, then you can just forget about any future collaborations (not to mention that the new KMAC mini, KMAC pad and the second revision of the KMAC is coming out soon).

Also that Diablo keycaps set (now called Sanctuary) is also another joint venture between members of Geekhack and KBD.  If we were to ruin the relationship by copying one of their keycap set just once, then I'm pretty sure they won't include us in any future designs or group buys.  Think long term instead of just short term. =)

This. ^^

It's not about sucking up to the Koreans, it's about demonstrating that we're not jerks.  The RA sets are a huge deal right now.  Everyone wants them.  Doing a knock-off set would be bad form IMO, without checking with them first at the very least.  And to be frank, they do a lot more cool stuff than us.  We want them to like us and include us and collaborate with us.  So maybe it is a little bit about sucking up. :P
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: inlikeflynn on Thu, 24 May 2012, 11:55:04
I'm pretty sure it has been said before that the Cream&Green creator said yes and the Red Alert creator said no about a re-creation happening.  If GH had already done a RA clone which copied the custom legends, i'm sure what reaper said would already be true and that would be the end for GH getting access to any future cool things. I know personally if I had to choose between the opportunity to get a KMAC or a single set of any replica keycaps from SP, I know what I would choose...

Yes it does suck if you want a RA clone and it cannot happen, but in the long term respecting the creator's request will be better for the community.

Only a few people know this, but I was going to run a GB for those awesome and ultra rare bright green GHSS 4 keys. I had prices from SP, tentative color choices, and the order thread written up while waiting for permission from the creator to-do this. Ultimately the creator (didjamatic) asked me not to-do it, so I didn't and the idea quitely went away. Sure I could have gone through with it and made them anyways, but that would have been a ****head thing to-do considering all the good things didjamatic has done for the community in the past.

So as much as I want it, i'll never get a bright green GHSS keyset. But life goes on and thanks to the efforts of others within the community we are now getting access to all kinds of cooler things from Korea and elsewhere. Now if only the boat would hurry up and get those KMAC's over here to the US:)

Ok back on topic. I'm still taking offers and going to put this over on DT as well I think. Someone should offer a like new dolch set + CC Jack I think ;-)
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: bavman on Thu, 24 May 2012, 12:03:08
What if we just do a red on white set? We don't have to copy and custom legends that KBD made or used, or we could have our own little GH thing...like replace the GH keys with white on red. While I think it's fair that we shouldn't copy their idea with the custom legends and some of the stuff they did (ideas/fonts), I do think it would be a little unfair if we just did a simple red on white kit and they got mad at us for it.
Also, sorry to inlikleflynn if I derailed your thread a little you get more attention now though (not like you need it :tongue: )
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: Reptile on Thu, 24 May 2012, 13:06:59
Quote from: bavman;599199
What if we just do a red on white set? We don't have to copy and custom legends that KBD made or used, or we could have our own little GH thing...like replace the GH keys with white on red. While I think it's fair that we shouldn't copy their idea with the custom legends and some of the stuff they did (ideas/fonts), I do think it would be a little unfair if we just did a simple red on white kit and they got mad at us for it.
Also, sorry to inlikleflynn if I derailed your thread a little you get more attention now though (not like you need it :tongue: )

Agreed. We should do a full set with Cherry replica legends. Exactly like the black on white/beige but red legends.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: longweight on Thu, 24 May 2012, 13:14:51
White on red modifiers would look amazing. Could all of the letters be Russian? That would really give it the Nod feel :D
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: inlikeflynn on Thu, 24 May 2012, 15:48:10
Quote from: Reptile;599252
Agreed. We should do a full set with Cherry replica legends. Exactly like the black on white/beige but red legends.

I would think that sort of set would be just fine seeing as its no different than the imsto dyesub's of the same sort of color with standard legends.


anyways also just cross posted this over at DT http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/red-alert-base-set-170keys-t2697.html
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: Glissant on Thu, 24 May 2012, 16:16:07
Any set with Cherry replica legends would be a go in my opinion.

Good luck to anyone that wants to trade for this set.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: snowboarder3 on Thu, 24 May 2012, 18:05:30
Next question: isn't ragnarok planning on running a red alert set after the portal set?
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: Djuzuh on Thu, 24 May 2012, 18:06:18
yes he is (was?)

EDIT: also, he planned to run both at the same time I believe.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: inlikeflynn on Fri, 25 May 2012, 14:46:49
well if no new offers come in tonight, i'm going to pick one of my existing offers sometime on Saturday

FYI these are the offers I will be picking from, in no particular order:
-blue switch poker in treble's gunmetal aluminum case + some stuff from imsto
-my choice of switch poker in oneproduct's brushed aluminum case
-white-on-black Cherry DS, Wyse DS, & a dark blue CC

Note that i'm not asking or wanting any of these guys to bump up their offers further as all are interesting to me and all are around same sort of value to me.

Thanks,
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: inlikeflynn on Sat, 26 May 2012, 09:38:14
Quote from: ripster;600451
Wow, did this thread go off topic a lot.

:-/ that seems to happen in most of my classifieds adds for some reason.

I have made my decision and sent the good & bad news out to everyone.

The winner has chosen to remain anonymous for now, until he reveals himself via photo's after they arrive.

Thanks for all the interest
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: bavman on Sat, 26 May 2012, 11:20:46
Ha so what did you get for it?
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: imersa on Sun, 27 May 2012, 04:53:19
Quote from: bavman;600642
Ha so what did you get for it?

maybe thats why he's anonymous :D (its not me)..
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: DanGWanG on Sun, 27 May 2012, 11:23:07
We'll all find out soon enough =/
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: dsjbirch on Fri, 01 June 2012, 10:28:33
aaah, the suspense...
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: AKIMbO on Fri, 01 June 2012, 10:54:01
Quote from: dsjbirch;605594
aaah, the suspense...
...it's killing me.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: DanGWanG on Fri, 01 June 2012, 10:57:41
Oh you guys don't know yet? :P

[ATTACH=CONFIG]52019[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]52020[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]52021[/ATTACH]

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?31949-It-s-been-a-while
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: inlikeflynn on Fri, 01 June 2012, 11:00:12
ninja'd now worthless post =)
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: AKIMbO on Fri, 01 June 2012, 11:44:08
Quote from: DanGWanG;605616
Oh you guys don't know yet? :P

(Attachment) 52019[/ATTACH] (Attachment) 52020[/ATTACH] (Attachment) 52021[/ATTACH]

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?31949-It-s-been-a-while

Son of a.......congrats bro...epic key cap set.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: DanGWanG on Fri, 01 June 2012, 11:45:15
tyty...cost me an arm and a leg, but it was well worth it =)
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: tjweir on Fri, 01 June 2012, 17:21:04
Quote from: reaper;599150
I can see many things wrong with copying the other forums stuff but mainly it's the relationship that we want to keep.  Right now, as you probably may have seen, KBD community is starting to let some of their custom keyboards (namely KMAC) trickle into the US market.  This is a good sign of trust and friendship and if we were to ruin that, by let say copy the Red Alert set, then you can just forget about any future collaborations (not to mention that the new KMAC mini, KMAC pad and the second revision of the KMAC is coming out soon).

Also that Diablo keycaps set (now called Sanctuary) is also another joint venture between members of Geekhack and KBD.  If we were to ruin the relationship by copying one of their keycap set just once, then I'm pretty sure they won't include us in any future designs or group buys.  Think long term instead of just short term. =)

Reaper, I can't find any details on the KMAC mini or KMAC pad.  Do you have a link or info?

Ok, that's embarrassing, this was the first result... http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?29588-KMAC-Mini-amp-KMAC-Pad

Nevermind.
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: lightsout714 on Fri, 01 June 2012, 20:34:01
Quote from: DanGWanG;605616
Oh you guys don't know yet? :P

(Attachment) 52019[/ATTACH] (Attachment) 52020[/ATTACH] (Attachment) 52021[/ATTACH]

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?31949-It-s-been-a-while
Man Dan you got a serious collection gathering over there. ;)
Title: Red Alert base set 170keys
Post by: thegunner100 on Fri, 01 June 2012, 20:39:59
Quote from: DanGWanG;605616
Oh you guys don't know yet? :P

(Attachment) 52019[/ATTACH] (Attachment) 52020[/ATTACH] (Attachment) 52021[/ATTACH]

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?31949-It-s-been-a-while


Sick, now we just need a group buy for a PBT set.