He was first thinking about doing the red on white after the portal set, but changed his mind and will run both at the same time.
But I believe he said he'd put them up last week. So well.
Grey modifiers like topre alert!!!
Could the enter key say something like "affirmative" as a nod to C&C? :D
Please no, but if yes please include a regular enter key
I'm not sure about dye-sub, although the pbt feels a little better than abs, but it'll drive prices to near $100 level if we do that
I'm not sure about dye-sub, although the pbt feels a little better than abs, but it'll drive prices to near $100 level if we do that
nope, its not that bad, 25%-30% more expensive yes, but the keys will last MUCH longer, and will have nice texture instead of shiny nastiness
I'd buy the dye-subs even if they're at that price level. SP's PBT is actually fairly decent, compared to their ABS quality. Just take a look at the nyancat keys!
Give us an idea of how this will look ;)
Even better then imsto!
Give us an idea of how this will look ;)Everything highlighted in bold I know we'll hit for sure, likely to be even more as GH has grown a lot in size lately
How about this vs red mods?(http://i.imgur.com/FmpJl.png)
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I guess it could be darker actually
OH and we can do ANY FONT in dyesubsComic Sans :bolt:
Where can that red alert topre set be found? :O
Edit: Helvetica or Futura!
Everything highlighted in bold I know we'll hit for sure, likely to be even more as GH has grown a lot in size lately
Prices is without shipping, handling and PP fee.
Pricing for the variations is below:
Standard 87 key layout:
25 sets $95.50 / set
50 sets $83.01 / set
75 sets $78.84 / set
100 sets $76.76 / set
150 sets $74.68 / set
200 sets $73.64 / set
250 sets $73.01 / set
** SUBLIMATION SETUP CHARGE OF $75
NumPad Addon Kit:
25 sets $40.89 / set
50 sets $35.36 / set
75 sets $33.52 / set
100 sets $32.60 / set
150 sets $31.68 / set
200 sets $31.22 / set
250 sets $30.94 / set
** SUBLIMATION SETUP CHARGE OF $40
11 Key 'Modifier' Addonkit:
25 sets $28.80 / set
50 sets $23.25 / set
75 sets $21.39 / set
100 sets $20.47 / set
150 sets $19.54 / set
200 sets $19.08 / set
250 sets $18.80 / set
**SUBLIMATION SETUP CHARGE OF $40
Comic Sans :bolt:
Heres one with slightly darker mods then:
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I still like the pure white keys...they look sooooo nice :bounce:
The thing i dont like about SP's dye-sub is that not all the keys look exactly the same. Some of the legends shift due to the process. Like in the picture ripster just posted it can completely ruin a setDepends on the GB organizer. If it was me I wouldn't have accepted it, knowing first hand I know SP will replace any keys are are done improper
The thing i dont like about SP's dye-sub is that not all the keys look exactly the same. Some of the legends shift due to the process. Like in the picture ripster just posted it can completely ruin a set
The thing i dont like about SP's dye-sub is that not all the keys look exactly the same. Some of the legends shift due to the process. Like in the picture ripster just posted it can completely ruin a set
We can take our time and get perfect prototypes with the kind of interest in this set. Really, SP's dyesubs >>>> DS.
I know there is a off-chance this GB won't happen...
But nonetheless I'm already kinda hyped for this :D
I propose we send a sacrifice of my head to KBDmania in exchange for them letting us use their labels.
It'll be like the movie Seven.
We should definitely get a poll going then
I propose we send my head as a sacrifice to KBDmania in exchange for them letting us use their labels.Fixed that for you.
Can there be an options for an inverted "Red Alert" set? I think white on red would be a lot nicer and would cater to the white case crowd.
I don't suggest all white as RA was done in that fashion the first time, and simply copying it is very blah
Bad for the communities in the end
so you want a completely new set?
this.
Grey modifiers like the topre set, and then optional white modifers for those who want it perhaps?
It's really not a bad font, that Isotherm white on red....
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?29078-IC-New-Signature-Plastic-Fonts!!!!
What are SP’s prices on low quantity sets? 5, 10 and 15. Just being curious here. :PThey do but I doubt anyone will pay those prices
(They SHOULD have lower prices here or at least lower them when negotiating since China’s doing this without MOQ, lol)
What are SP’s prices on low quantity sets? 5, 10 and 15. Just being curious here. :P
(They SHOULD have lower prices here or at least lower them when negotiating since China’s doing this without MOQ, lol)
They do but I doubt anyone will pay those prices
Also my prices has no ISO because Jret doesn't exist in PBT
What are SP’s prices on low quantity sets? 5, 10 and 15. Just being curious here. :P
(They SHOULD have lower prices here or at least lower them when negotiating since China’s doing this without MOQ, lol)
Also my prices has no ISO because Jret doesn't exist in PBT
Yeah, double shots are a lot, that’s nothing new. Dye subs are available without MOQ on the other hand, they’ve got competition there…Until they can make 87 sets + all other size modifiers with custom legends/images on ALL of them SP is still the only one available
LOL! SP has no JRET?
Hahaha
ha
lol. :DD
SP - 0, China ∞
Yeah, double shots are a lot, that’s nothing new. Dye subs are available without MOQ on the other hand, they’ve got competition there…
LOL! SP has no JRET?
Hahaha
ha
lol. :DD
SP - 0, China ∞
They can. Seen enough offers on Taobao.
Can SP put legends on the space bar, by the way?
Will their customer service be on par as SP? Mistake happen and they replace it?
Show Image(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/eddie84/OCN/Mech%20keyboard%20club/KMAC/Red%20Alert/DSC07457.jpg)
pics? never seen it.
Look at the GB Changdrew is running its like $2.06 for a 1x key and backspace is $7.50 will there be a price drop?
Will their customer service be on par as SP? Mistake happen and they replace it?
We need a big pole!
oh, nice.Show Image(http://s7.directupload.net/images/120529/dr2og3ux.jpg)
Complete sets should be cheaper, yes. I don’t know anything specific, but asking can’t hurt, before you’re going to throw your money at SP, no? Imsto clearly said he can do “any layout”.
That’s the only problem, yeah.
Wouldn't it be cheaper if there were just two sets as part of the same order to SP? Since the layout proposed in the OP has alternating red on white and white on red function key sub-sets, the same could be done for the white on red set but reversed.
Just an idea. Not sure if it would save money or not, but that way this GB (if it was to happen) benefits more of the community.
now to wait for to come out in 2014 with the rest of their products.
Isotherm would be great, even an inverted version of this color set.
Wouldn't it be cheaper if there were just two sets as part of the same order to SP? Since the layout proposed in the OP has alternating red on white and white on red function key sub-sets, the same could be done for the white on red set but reversed.i dont understand what you're asking o.O
Just an idea. Not sure if it would save money or not, but that way this GB (if it was to happen) benefits more of the community.
Since the world is ending in December, I wouldn't worry about that.
:happy:
Vortex doesn't do custom orders
You save no money, regardless of layout once the colour is different it has it's own separate MOQ
Show Image(http://s7.directupload.net/images/120529/dr2og3ux.jpg)
Right...so wouldn't it be cheaper to just coordinate a full set of red on white caps and a full set of white on red? The GB organizer can offer certain adjustment like alternating colors of function row groupings, modifiers, etc. Just trying to think of cost-effective strategies!
Right...so wouldn't it be cheaper to just coordinate a full set of red on white caps and a full set of white on red? The GB organizer can offer certain adjustment like alternating colors of function row groupings, modifiers, etc. Just trying to think of cost-effective strategies!Except that people don't want white on red for alpha numeric unless I'm wrong, and even then it's a separate GB why would you combine it when both don't benefit from each other, there won't be any cost saving in anyway.
I'm working on this set right now. Order thread goes up tomorrow if Melissa replies to my emails.
Font choice?
But most likely on PBT and structured just like the Ragnarok GB in terms of base set + add ons.
Is the contrast of SP's dyesubs the same as their doubleshot?
Heres one with slightly darker mods then:
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I still like the pure white keys...they look sooooo nice :bounce:
Yes, a flat PBT spacebar is a must. Or at least matching ABS.
This set should be close perfection (at least that's the dream)
Seriously, no more sharp spacebars please...
Red modifiers.
Well until this thread I had no intention of doing red modifiers AND grey modifiers- I had only planned on doing red on grey. Depending on the counts, we may do more add ons than I originally intended (red num row and/or modifiers.)
Well until this thread I had no intention of doing red modifiers AND grey modifiers- I had only planned on doing red on grey. Depending on the counts, we may do more add ons than I originally intended (red num row and/or modifiers.)red on white and red on grey will work
I love the red modifiers. Though I think I would rather have PBT.
Also if you're looking for white/red that is coming out soon via keyboardstory/kbdmania for us to buy, so why make something that we KNOW is coming out
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30708-Updates-on-all-products
How about this vs red mods?Would buy
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I guess it could be darker actually
Here you go for all those wanting red legends on white PBT dyesubs, with grey modifiers:Umm, I don't see anywhere in that thread where it confirms that he is selling those. There is a huge demand for this set, so obviously he isn't delivering the goods people want.
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30405-round-2-dyesub-105-and-105-rainbow-jelly-keycaps-group
Why would we do a group buy for these? Just to get them for less than $86 plus shipping? Thegunner100 did a mini-GB for these to save on shipping to the US.
I know these would be similar to the Cream Cheese & Whatever color sets, but honestly, there are only so many ways you can change these layouts. Contrasting the alphanum keys with the modifiers is about the only way to do it. And red/white seems to be a popular choice right now.
We have had Dolch replicas, Space Cadet replicas, Miami Vice-inspired sets, etc. We could do a WYSE replica set, but that is for another IC. These would be similar to the RA set, but different enough to be unique. I have some other ideas, but I will wait to share them until some of these GB's calm down. My wallet can't take much more at this point.
images of dyesub 105keys could found here (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?25897-here-we-are-thick-dyesub-group)
the price is 86$ only blue and red available.
blank ones 59$
express shipping 25$ arrive in 7 days after shipping
post office shipping 15$ arrive at about 20 days later, maybe more.
For reference, imsto is referring to these keycaps: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=14125887532
So just for clarification, these keycaps are a full 104-set and we can get them in blue, red, green, purple and yellow text with the keycap color as classic beige, correct?
Here you go for all those wanting red legends on white PBT dyesubs, with grey modifiers:reasons to go with sp:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30405-round-2-dyesub-105-and-105-rainbow-jelly-keycaps-group (http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30405-round-2-dyesub-105-and-105-rainbow-jelly-keycaps-group)
Why would we do a group buy for these? Just to get them for less than $86 plus shipping? Thegunner100 did a mini-GB for these to save on shipping to the US.
I know these would be similar to the Cream Cheese & Whatever color sets, but honestly, there are only so many ways you can change these layouts. Contrasting the alphanum keys with the modifiers is about the only way to do it. And red/white seems to be a popular choice right now.
We have had Dolch replicas, Space Cadet replicas, Miami Vice-inspired sets, etc. We could do a WYSE replica set, but that is for another IC. These would be similar to the RA set, but different enough to be unique. I have some other ideas, but I will wait to share them until some of these GB's calm down. My wallet can't take much more at this point.
because
a) we can pick the font we want
b) most of us have SP keycaps that will fit the same profile
c) white capslock..really?
d) iso set, tsangan set etc etc
e) more whites to pick from
f) non crappy PBT spacebar.
i mean, you guys are welcomed to do white on red or w/e sets you want. but this is specifically for a similar to red alert set.
Umm, I don't see anywhere in that thread where it confirms that he is selling those. There is a huge demand for this set, so obviously he isn't delivering the goods people want.
Okay. Good points, all. And I agree with most of them. I'm just out if these are dyesubs, and in if doubleshot with red modifiers. My fingers just aren't that picky when it comes to PBT or ABS, especially when you can only get white on red (or any other color) with doubleshots, not dyesubs
I thought that's what this thread was: Thread: [IC] Red on white sp double-shots?
i was talking about the guy that wanted to do an inverse set.. which made no sense o.O
i was talking about the guy that wanted to do an inverse set.. which made no sense o.O
Once again keyboard story will have red and white done in August joint project with kbdmania, so i dont know why you guys are asking to do something that is getting done already
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30708-Updates-on-all-products
they 3 sets, red/white blue/white and green/white
Yeah, I don't think there's much interest in a complete white legend on red set. Maybe 1. :)
I would definitely be in for such a set.
That would be something unique. Something that's different from how a regular keyboard looks.
I also would like to voice my support for an all red on white set and the white on red modifiers.
We have the possibility to do almost any color combination we could dream about. Yet we keep making these bland sets.
Miami and Cream cheese being the exception and I'm part of both to show my support, even though I don't really like the colors of Miami.
How would a off white and grey whit red dysub letters be that different from the old rubber dome keyboard lying next to me?
The red letters on anything other than pure white would lose intensity as seen by the nyan cat prototypes. My guess is that the letters would look almost like regular black/grey letters to anything but a close inspection.
I hope I haven't offended anyone. If so I would like to apologize.
I'm really grateful for all the hard work that goes into these group buys. I try to take part in as many as I can afford and motivate. Just wish there were a few more inspirational color choices.
reasons to go with sp:
d) iso set, tsangan set etc etc
f) non crappy PBT spacebar.
This is exactly my point. But I think they basically just want a Red Alert copy, so we probably need to look elsewhere for something more original.
Just wait for Round 5, then.(http://i.imgur.com/aZrED.jpg)
Once again keyboard story will have red and white done in August joint project with kbdmania, so i dont know why you guys are asking to do something that is getting done already
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30708-Updates-on-all-products
they 3 sets, red/white blue/white and green/white
Because:1. They are making 3 DIFFERENT versions one is with red
1. Those are Cream Cheese & RGB, not White.
1a. Why would Keyboard Story and KBDmania do CC&G again? KBD did the first one, and then you yourself made a round of it available to us (I am looking forward to my sets).
2. Pricing. Maybe we can get these cheaper if we do them ourselves, and get SP tier pricing? I don't know about this one. What price will KS/KBD be charging for their sets? Anyone know? Will it be SP tier pricing, or a set price? I'm not saying they are trying to rip anyone off, we just don't have any idea at this point.
3. Availability. How easy is it to order a CC&G, CC&Blue, or Graphite set right now?
Edit: Almost forgot. 4. Options. We could do the red modifiers as standard but have an option for white modifiers, if people want those. And/or a red number row. Also, add-ons for tsangan kits, 10-key kits, ISO kits, etc.
I guess Bavman could run a GB for the doubleshot set with red modifiers, and Ragnorock could run the GB for the PBT dyesubs. Or we could take a poll?
No ISO if no JRET.
Crappy ABS spacebar.
:-)
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/aZrED.jpg)
Or we could just wait a month or so to free peoples pockets up lol
But its probably not a good idea. Its better to find a middle ground for everyone
Well ahead of Round 5 and some gap to Round 4, so pockets will be filled up again.
Just wait for Round 5, then.
once Round 4 is shipped.
count me out if it's anything but pbt dye sub with grey mods.
When is that? :P
count me out if it's anything but pbt dye sub with grey mods.
red mods look dumb, and it's about time we move away from doubleshot to dye sub pbt.
here's hoping the koreans get it right.
May you wanna use windows 8 logo instead of the current one?
In if the sets are grey modifiers.
Red modifiers looks too bright.
May you wanna use windows 8 logo instead of the current one?
=D
FINALLY somebody understands. red mods = TOO bright.
maybe if the red was a little darker it would look less ugly. but as it stands.. bleh.
Says a mod with a red frame and 2 white on red keys in his avatar!
^.^
i dont own that keyboard anymore tho!
Still counts!
We could always go for a darker red, I don't mind it as long as the idea is pretty much the same
We can always go with WFK and RBV or similar.This. In DS.
^.^
i dont own that keyboard anymore tho!
red mods look dumb
Is that the one which went to webwit?
Why do we need to copy the Koreans on everything?
Ripster? Is that you?
I am trying to prevent that
red numeric, wyse/isotherm font, double shot
Why do we need to copy the Koreans on everything?
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FmpJl.png)
i'll just leave this right here.
SP's PBT white can be even whiter than that. And that will give better contrast.
Because they rock. :-D
And it really is pretty dumb to do it while they do the same set, just better. And saying you can’t wait 2 months in pretty strange considering we’re doing group buys here.
Can someone with a color set post a pic of WCK/WFK/WA and RA/RBV/RCQ/RR please?
I have a PBT SP color chain, you need pics of that?
But that's what this DS set is trying to do, white with red wyse font looks 100% like Red Alert from OTD/DT not to mention the red numeric row and so on
Which is why I am trying to change that, dyesubs allow for any type of font which will be MUCH more unique.
If you don't mind. I am curious how different the Cream Cheese and Red set will be from a White and Red set.
I'm just going to say this once more that KBDmania/keyboard story is doing red/white set with the red mods people want, yes no red numeric row but in exchange you get kbdmania's special font ie CCnG and graphite font
Correct me if I'm wrong. But aren't those sets red/cream? Sure they are nice but not remotely close to the clean futuristic look provided by pure white.I was stating that for the people that are looking for red/white
As for all white with Wyse font, that is just 100% copy of OTD/DT's set which is very bad for the communities :(
I'm cool with Isotherm. Is it $25 legend fee per key to use those?!?!$40 x83 (no need to do alt, control, shift, win twice)
I was stating that for the people that are looking for red/white
As for all white with Wyse font, that is just 95% copy of OTD/DT's set which is very bad for the communities :(
I don't really see how producing a similar set would be a negative thing. I'm sure there are a lot of people both here and over at OTD/DT that would love the opportunity to buy such a set.
Having missed out on the OTD/DT set I sure would really like the chance to get something similar.
Doing something like red modifiers would both give the set an edge and further separate it from the previous set.
I don't really see how producing a similar set would be a negative thing. I'm sure there are a lot of people both here and over at OTD/DT that would love the opportunity to buy such a set.Unfortunately that is is not the case they were not happy with our Round 3 set (which was their dolch replica), retro set (which was their SoWaRe set) Geekhack is better then this
Having missed out on the OTD/DT set I sure would really like the chance to get something similar.
Doing something like red modifiers would both give the set an edge and further separate it from the previous set.
The owner/GB organiser of the first red alert set didn't want anybody to make this GB again.Exactly this, and we want to have further joint projects with everyone in different communities
So if we do the same, we are going against his will. Which means korean boards won't trust/like us.
The owner/GB organiser of the first red alert set didn't want anybody to make this GB again.
So if we do the same, we are going against his will. Which means korean boards won't trust/like us.
Man, that's like trying to patent a generic color scheme. I mean, come on, it's red and white. Really? No one can ever make a red and white set ever again or it will piss of the Koreans? That, my friend, is f'd up.Nono you mistaken the point, the point is we're trying to imitate the set far too much, red numeric, wyse/isotherm font
their dolch replica
Man, that's like trying to patent a generic color scheme. I mean, come on, it's red and white. Really? No one can ever make a red and white set ever again or it will piss of the Koreans? That, my friend, is f'd up.
So we made a copy of a set they copied? Hmm... I don't see any irony in that :PTheir Dolch replica looks nothing like dolch besides the colour, it used large centre font, which GH just copied key for key, it was just called Dolch replica for the colourway
Red modifiers and a new font they never used would settle this, and make the set more unique.
Their Dolch replica looks nothing like dolch besides the colour, it used large centre font, which GH just copied key for key, it was just called Dolch replica for the colourway
Red modifiers and a new font they never used would settle this, and make the set more unique.
Yes. We could use the Cherry replica font. Or Fugue2. Anything that will distinguish our set from their Red Alert set.
back to $40 x83 for the legend fees of the base set
$3320 is the total
I meant a legend SP already has, or one that has been paid for, like Cherry replica, or something like that.Refer to post above.
Man, that's like trying to patent a generic color scheme. I mean, come on, it's red and white. Really? No one can ever make a red and white set ever again or it will piss of the Koreans? That, my friend, is f'd up.
$40 x83 (no need to do alt, control, shift, win twice)
$3320 is your grand total for legends, that money is better well spent on the Cherry replica font which all the SVG is done and just need to move into the next step.
Unfortunately that is is not the case they were not happy with our Round 3 set (which was their dolch replica), retro set (which was their SoWaRe set) Geekhack is better then this
Exactly this, and we want to have further joint projects with everyone in different communities
I would like the Cherry font. It's more bold also.
RETRO is differs from SoWaRe (different colors) and also SoWaRe itself was a clone of the WYSE scheme and came out that way it is becuase SP messed it up!So we decide to follow suit because we like the mess up
RETRO is differs from SoWaRe (different colors) and also SoWaRe itself was a clone of the WYSE scheme and came out that way it is becuase SP messed it up!So we decide to follow suit because we like the mess up
Well this puts us in a predicament as it seems its about a half way split with what people want.dyesubs does not have to be grey mods
Double-shot red mods vs dye-sub grey mods
dyesubs does not have to be grey mods
plus sides to dye subs is better quality keys with any font we want while DS that is not possible
There will be legend fees if we choose a font they haven't done before though, yes?
dyesubs does not have to be grey mods
plus sides to dye subs is better quality keys with any font we want while DS that is not possible
Dye sub red mods? ;P The sides would have to stay white, but it still could look decent, I think. Could. I’m not sure. ^^
But dyesubs rule out white on red modsSadly can't dyesub white onto red, you can dyesub black onto red though
There will be legend fees if we choose a font they haven't done before though, yes?Just the setup fee I listed earlier in this thread i think it was $75 for base kit and like $30 for the addon kits
I feel like SP would still charge us $40 a key to dye-sub a new font unless someone has asked Melissa about this.I did ask and posted the prices already...
And like magicmeatball said, we can't have the red mods on pbt. If we could get it like that I would totally be in for pbt
Sadly can't dyesub white onto red, you can dyesub black onto red though
You can’t dyesub white on red, but you can dyesub a whole keytop red and leave the legends white. :P
Any input from Sherryton on what colors will be used for the KS/KBD set? What legends?
Tsangan would you happen to have the pricing on 87 set for double-shots and dye-sub on hand?DS I don't have new pricing but prices went up and I know this for a fact so PLEASE do NOT base it on recent sets (ie. Cream Cheese N Green)
Everything highlighted in bold I know we'll hit for sure, likely to be even more as GH has grown a lot in size lately
Prices is without shipping, handling and PP fee.
Pricing for the variations is below:
Standard 87 key layout:
25 sets $95.50 / set
50 sets $83.01 / set
75 sets $78.84 / set
100 sets $76.76 / set
150 sets $74.68 / set
200 sets $73.64 / set
250 sets $73.01 / set
** SUBLIMATION SETUP CHARGE OF $75
NumPad Addon Kit:
25 sets $40.89 / set
50 sets $35.36 / set
75 sets $33.52 / set
100 sets $32.60 / set
150 sets $31.68 / set
200 sets $31.22 / set
250 sets $30.94 / set
** SUBLIMATION SETUP CHARGE OF $40
11 Key 'Tsangan' Addonkit:
25 sets $28.80 / set
50 sets $23.25 / set
75 sets $21.39 / set
100 sets $20.47 / set
150 sets $19.54 / set
200 sets $19.08 / set
250 sets $18.80 / set
**SUBLIMATION SETUP CHARGE OF $40
Honestly I think this gb would hit 150 minimum probably around 200.
Original graphite/CCnG fontShow Image(http://cfile8.uf.tistory.com/image/112877474F3B1949071FF0)
Only reason red on black DS and CCnG got so much love was because OTD/KBDmania ordered please remember that.
red on black DS because it was new
CCnG because of the winkeyless option via tsangan kit which was NOT available in the original set
We could always invite them in on the gb
But I don't think it would have gone up more than a couple dollars a set though?It has, I saw first hand, it was nasty almost double in price for this one set
We could always invite them in on the gbWhy would they partake in something we're just doing the same thing of for most parts (font/colour) everything besides the modifiers, which does not justify buying a whole set for that
I honestly don’t get why you would pay 3000$ for that. Doubleshot fonts need to be thick for maximum contrast. :-/
Only reason red on black DS and CCnG got so much love was because OTD/KBDmania ordered please remember that.Taeyoung bought 26 Tsangan kits, not full sets. Not sure if that's what you were saying or not.
red on black DS because it was new
CCnG because of the winkeyless option via tsangan kit which was NOT available in the original set
More then half of my orders was from Korea, if it wasn't for them my GB would hover around 100 at best. Red on black DS Taeyoung got 26 sets IIRC and there was others too, so if it wasn't for them it would over around 80~
Taeyoung bought 26 Tsangan kits, not full sets. Not sure if that's what you were saying or not.
I'm not sure why everyone from the other groups (OTD etc) would be so unhappy with us doing a 2nd run of their set. They get the same keys, without having to do the work of running the group buy. Several people on GH would love to see reruns of the same set so they can get a 2nd chance at keys they missed out on, regardless of where they had to go to get them.
The owner/GB organiser of the first red alert set didn't want anybody to make this GB again.
So if we do the same, we are going against his will. Which means korean boards won't trust/like us.
I really want to believe that GH is capable of producing some unique and attractive sets. Red on off white and grey is neither. Red on pure white with or without red modifiers is at least really aesthetically pleasing and to some degre unique amongst keyboards in general.
Oh, here's my reworking of the original post's mockup. Everything that is white on red will also be offered in red on grey.
Yeah normal arrows look better imo. Idk why that template has weird ones
because you like barcelona.
Here is my thought ... First off, we all have different tastes and preferences. I am a noob and don't understand some of the "tradition" or completely understand the Red Alert set, although I agree with not stepping on toes and making waves. It would be nice if all the groups got along. There certainly is power (and better prices) in numbers. All of that said, the attractive thing here to me was the red modifiers. Now with the voting in the other thread it appears that option, and look, may be gone.
Thanks,
John
If we're doing DS, what does everybody think about a white on red GEEK HACK key? What about white on red G and H keys as an addon?
How did we get from voting for the set to deciding on DS? Bummer... SP's PBT quality is so much better than their ABS's :(
Edit: just read through the polls thread... so what I got out of it was that Rag decided to do DS because the community wanted the red modifers?
I also like the bigger font size idea. Not just WYSE font, but WYSE legend size, as well. That may make it more expensive. Not sure how SP structures their pricing.
Any legend besides theirs will cost you $40 per legend, and none of them look good beside Wyse, kind of in a pickle
How did we get from voting for the set to deciding on DS? Bummer... SP's PBT quality is so much better than their ABS's :(
Edit: just read through the polls thread... so what I got out of it was that Rag decided to do DS because the community wanted the red modifers?
By community you mean the 16 people vs the 27 people that voted for PBT :thumb:
More of a decision from Rag then a decision from the community
rag decided to do DS because he got the go ahead to copy red alert.
we had something better. on better plastic.. but it wont happen now.
Just cause rag won't run it doesn't mean it doesn't have to happen. If theres still a strong demand for pbt we could always run it in the future.
I will gladly run it after Rag's gb is done if the interest still remains. It would be a douche move to run my own right now along side with his because most people wouldn't have the money to pay for 2 full sets and it would hurt both group buys
I would love to have a set of pbt's that are like the red alert including the red modifiers. If you are doing that count me in.
For the 30th time, you can't dye sub white onto a red PBT key. That won't ever happen...We're still on that? :rofl:
Also I had an idea this morning for a different than RA red on white set that, while in the early stages of planning, should be enough to make everyone who wasn't satisfied with doubleshot Red Alert, happy as hell when it shows up later this year. It will be PBT dyesubs, which means no white on red mods, and probably no red on grey mods either (though I might toss them in for fun since you guys love them so much) but it will have something else I can't say yet that should have everyone wiggling with excitement for.
/mysterious post
Dave out