The layout above needs a tilde key IMO. ;)i believe that all keyboards should be 100% programmable. only the key layout is set in stone, and even that can be converted to ANSI/ISO enter and left shift. i know a lot of people like the Ctrl in the caps lock position and they will be able to have that. want a Fn on both sides of the board? you can have that too.
to be clear, is the last picture measuring the flat bit of the individual barrel plate? and the other dimension of the ind. barrel plate has the same curve as the underside of the metal barrel insert plate?the last picture is a side view of an individual barrel. i am still not sure if it was born curved. i think there is a .0005 gap at center curve now, but that might just be from being pressed into a curve for 30 years. when my XTant test plate comes in i will check fit with 84 barrels while the plate is still flat.
Will they be 2-kro?unless my completely insane idea with embedding the diodes in the backplate works (which i highly doubt it will), yes, it will use the unicomp membranes and controller and hence be 2kro.
Better go license resistive multitouch...Will they be 2-kro?unless my completely insane idea with embedding the diodes in the backplate works (which i highly doubt it will), yes, it will use the unicomp membranes and controller and hence be 2kro.
fyi, we're going to start by getting a precise model of an SSK backplate, and then seeing if there's some easy to integrate a casing into something that's equally compatible with SSK frames
that didn't make any sense. bottom line: one piece backplate and casing. possible? only autocad knows
what do you think of this layout? the keys left of the left arrow and up arrow are stepped "caps lock" keys. this should help isolate the arrow block.Show Image(http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33430.0;attach=849;image)
This would be infinitely cooler IMO if we could do it with capacitive buckling spring mechanisms, they feel SO much better than standard. I realize Unicomp probably doesn't stock the hardware but I continue to pipe dream myself to sleep nonetheless...if anyone wants to tackle the controller, i have already done much of the work for a capacitive matrix.
I thought DFJ already had a custom controller built?eh?
it would be super cool but also a much much bigger design and production project. i'm staying attainable here.Does that "attainable" include model F springs/hammers/board/controller or are you talking about a straight up SSK copy still?
yesterday i built the first bolt-secured brand-new-components SSK in possibly ever.
happy thanksgiving everyone
In what kind of case?the original case
1) new case project is mostly stalled. i ave a number of ideas but need more CAD help
If by that you mean the soldering work, I'm capable/willing as long as all parts are leaded. I have no reflow tools.the diodes i would like to use would require reflow (5 or 6 connections in a 1.6mm square package - one on bottom). i would like to use that diode because i would only need to use 17 for an SSK. going with non-array diodes would require 85ish.
Yea, how does Unicomp feel about this? It seemed like they were interested in doing a mini-run of these before. They did a big interest check for it where we were supposed to send them tickets.
Also, will these have at least 6kro? I apologized if that was posted before but didn't see it in the OP.
Is this something that Unicomp will license from you to put in mass production?i don't think that what i am doing here is anything new. using a diode to isolate a switch is fair use. but it does make it possible to give membrane keyboards full NKRO with the right controller. i think the reason this has not been done before is strictly cost. in volume, a silk screened membrane probably costs < $2; what i am doing will likely cost > $20 per keyboard.
here's one thing we're using as our inspiration right now :D http://steampunkworkshop.com/keyboard.shtml
Thinking about the SSK and the GH60 made me want to build this:i thought the same thing too, but where is Esc and the fn key? i counter with ... (see post #12 of this thread).
Artist rendering.
- Ron | samwisekoi
Thinking about the SSK and the GH60 made me want to build this:
(Attachment Link)
Artist rendering.
- Ron | samwisekoi
Thinking about the SSK and the GH60 made me want to build this:i thought the same thing too, but where is Esc and the fn key? i counter with ... (see post #12 of this thread).
Artist rendering.
- Ron | samwisekoi
and i can confirm that Unicomp does make SSK specific keycaps - even in iso!
Including prints on the embedded numpad?yup. i ordered some about a month or two ago for my (currently stalled) XTant project.
and i can confirm that Unicomp does make SSK specific keycaps - even in iso!
Including prints on the embedded numpad?
proto 2 in progress...
proto 2 in progress...
O_O who has the first proto?
Make a How-to on that box fan.
Shame they discontinued the 360mm (http://www.xoxide.com/360mm-case-fan.html) case fan...Mother of God...
Shame they discontinued the 360mm (http://www.xoxide.com/360mm-case-fan.html) case fan...
I have two more testers lined up and about about 3.5 assemblies constructed. anyone else interested in beating the crap out of an ssk?
heads up: three beta boards will go up in the classifieds this week. i'll pick the testers via some kind of lottery (ie, i have no idea how i'm going to pick the testers).
NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
boost just discovered an issue with his beta board #1. we're investigating. if i can't convince myself that it's an obvious construction error, i'm going to wait until i have his board back and torn down before i let anymore betas into the wild.
ps, *SOB*
Freakin boost ....
any chance a beta can be ready for: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40116.0will do my best. regardless, it sounds like boost's board is going to head back to me for a tear down.
it's official: the assemblies aren't boost-proof. INVESTIGATION COMMENCES
boost, did you roll a tank over your ssk? O_o
these new builds feel so nice. BOOST Y U HAVE TO BREAK EVERYTHING!!
i've sent a prototype off to jwaz as a control in case boot just has hulk hands (HIGHLY POSSIBLE). depending on what i see when boost's package gets in, i'll try to get another sample board to tri-state meetup participant in time for the festivities :)
eta: and to reiterate a couple things. this will almost certainly never be more than 2kro. the goal of this project is simply to make a buckling spring tenkeyless available to the general public with new parts at a reasonable price (it will not be as low as unicomp's current tenkeyed lineup, but my goal is to offer a medium quantity extremely solid boards for less than a realforce 87u ;)
it's a good thing you have so many KDM boards to keep you company :P
so what did boost do to the board? :D
boost's case? i think it shows up tomorrow
any updates on this? :)
pretty sure i just built boost's board wrong
oops :X
fixed it and testing it today
pretty sure i just built boost's board wrong
oops :X
fixed it and testing it today
to see boost's board, just imagine in your mind's eye an SSK covered with kpop stickers.
things i discovered today: when boost's assembly is correctly torqued, a number of hammers are out of alignment (SIGH^10^n)
oh, i think i was supposed to show you guys this picture a while ago:Show Image(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24794081/DSCN0217%20concept.JPG)
something we've been playing around with
someone even dropped one!For science or on accident?
is there a difference? :)The match end compound burns too slowly in large quantities to make an effective bomb. So, yes, there is a difference, to an extent.
sorry, that was in answer to "for science of by accident?"is there a difference? :)The match end compound burns too slowly in large quantities to make an effective bomb. So, yes, there is a difference, to an extent.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/62HGoYo.jpg)
MY HOUSE
no seriously, i'm going to print the complex plastic stuff at home and probably do final assembly of everything. i'm currently the only one with the tools to do the assembly of the internals anyway (and even then only with an assist from rknize)
acetrak is responsible for this newest iteration of the case btw.
MY HOUSE
no seriously, i'm going to print the complex plastic stuff at home and probably do final assembly of everything. i'm currently the only one with the tools to do the assembly of the internals anyway (and even then only with an assist from rknize)
do you know how to operate a manual mill without cutting your fingers off?
do you know how to operate a manual mill without cutting your fingers off?
do you know how to operate a manual mill without cutting your fingers off?
I can operate a mill and not lose fingers. And I can make it to Chicago land if rknize and dante would like some help.
What kind of mill are you folks talking about? I have a manual mill but it's for grinding coffee and there's no way it could cut your fingers :-)
the milling they're talking about is really simple, more of a drill press job. the plastic barrel carrying frames come in with plastic rivets sticking out of the back instead of holes for bolts. the challenge is drilling those rivets out quickly and efficiently so you can do batches of like 20 at a time. rknize has a manual mill and a jig that he uses to do it but is short on time (lead time in the half dozens of months ;)). he currently has about 10 or 20 frames that he's working his way through. people were volunteering to go over to his workshop and drill the rest out with his jig for the greater good ;)
i totally did. it was more fun that way :Dthe milling they're talking about is really simple, more of a drill press job. the plastic barrel carrying frames come in with plastic rivets sticking out of the back instead of holes for bolts. the challenge is drilling those rivets out quickly and efficiently so you can do batches of like 20 at a time. rknize has a manual mill and a jig that he uses to do it but is short on time (lead time in the half dozens of months ;)). he currently has about 10 or 20 frames that he's working his way through. people were volunteering to go over to his workshop and drill the rest out with his jig for the greater good ;)
The current batch is done. I'll send them off to you soon. Might I remind you that you sort of sprung them on me! :-*
I started getting cross-eyed after a while, so hopefully most the holes are in the barrel frames and not my hand. I do seem to have a few extra holes, but they might have come from the weed whacker. :'(
the milling they're talking about is really simple, more of a drill press job. the plastic barrel carrying frames come in with plastic rivets sticking out of the back instead of holes for bolts. the challenge is drilling those rivets out quickly and efficiently so you can do batches of like 20 at a time. rknize has a manual mill and a jig that he uses to do it but is short on time (lead time in the half dozens of months ;)). he currently has about 10 or 20 frames that he's working his way through. people were volunteering to go over to his workshop and drill the rest out with his jig for the greater good ;)
i can order any time.sounds good
i have IBM membranes on hand that might be the same as yours. i'll convert these to CAD file then PDF and JPG. you can print out the PDF at 100% and lay your membrane on top to check that everything lines up. if anything does not match, mark up the JPG with Snagit, Greenshot, MS Paint, or other graphics mark-up tool and send it back to me.
Guys whats the general idea behind this mod? DIY and they have a GB for some sort of casing or give the SSK mod to Unicomp and hope they take one the bait copy/paste the design and roll out new SSK model production based on this mod?i'm going to build small batches and then sell them, with funds going into a geekhack trust fund.
i don't want loctite at all, as it ruins torque measurements on the bolts. i may or may not have mentioned that earlier. i will be transitioning to either jamb nuts or lock washers or both.
you're still very confused, unfortunately. the barrel plates are molded ABS and pretty precisely uniform, actually. a small 2-axis mill could make short work of the matter, but i don't have the money for that tooling at the moment, as i'm currently debugging our very expensive FFM printer.
and yes, it's me smashing a 5mm awl through
3-5 pixels at what resolution? the border line in the original is 5mil (3 pixels at 600 dpi). the new border is 10 mil (3 pixels at 300 dpi). if you would like that changed to any value, that is a 2 minute fix. just give me a value.10 mil at 600 dpi would be perfect.
flap is removed in this version, but my understanding was that this project would be using vintage 101key controllers. some of those controllers will have 3 FFC connectors (16-8-4) but some might only have 2 connectors (16-12). the extra bit is "padding" so that the membrane would fit proper in a 12 position FFC or could be cut back to the dotted line to fit an 8 position FFC.
also, 3mil top sheet fits too loose in those FFC connectors (connector spec calls for 5-15mil). older membranes fold a flap to bring the contact area up to 6mil. newer membranes use stickers to bring it to about 9mil.
i can make more boards than i believe there is demand for.
Is the info for the plates available, in case people want to do that part on their own? I know doing en mass is cheaper, but if doing things piecemeal can help get things going faster...i'd prefer to make the first run of cases because they're a bit complicated. there's a plastic and metal component, and our plan is to lasercut stainless, which requires an amount of power that would be unattainable if it weren't for the_beast's laser cutting contact.
Is the info for the plates available, in case people want to do that part on their own? I know doing en mass is cheaper, but if doing things piecemeal can help get things going faster...i'd prefer to make the first run of cases because they're a bit complicated. there's a plastic and metal component, and our plan is to lasercut stainless, which requires an amount of power that would be unattainable if it weren't for the_beast's laser cutting contact.
if everyone involved agrees, after the first run the board design will be made available under some variant of the ggppll. also, trading up to a revival board, if they come out like i want them to, won't be unheard of. the plates are going to be thicker than the thickest plates i've ever pulled out of an ssk, and the bottom case will be stainless instead of the break-prone plastic that the OEM units use.
Or wcass Binge?
Or fohat.digs
I'm still ready to trade my SSK in for this revival version in a heart beat!
I like the older model SSK's but the idea of a bolt modded newer version with a thicker plate sound awesome to me.
I'm still ready to trade my SSK in for this revival version in a heart beat!
I like the older model SSK's but the idea of a bolt modded newer version with a thicker plate sound awesome to me.
Plus brand new plastic that hasn't weathered a decade or more!
when i have time, i will probably GB a small production run, similarly to how i am running the other two geekhackers GBs -- quick, pay-at-order, short lead times, a dozen or two units max.
Oh sweet jesus, thank you for an AB reference!!!Show Image(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/3/33357/1310858-rise_from_your_grave.png)
total necro, but i was actually prodded hard enough to build a set of rev2 internals and put them in a case.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3x52i8foohgxuoe/2014-06-26%2018.04.47.jpg
weight is 4lbs, which i think is the heaviest i've yet recorded for an ssk
total necro, but i was actually prodded hard enough to build a set of rev2 internals and put them in a case.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3x52i8foohgxuoe/2014-06-26%2018.04.47.jpg (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3x52i8foohgxuoe/2014-06-26%2018.04.47.jpg)
weight is 4lbs, which i think is the heaviest i've yet recorded for an ssk