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Title: reliable, cheap dome keyboard for gaming
Post by: tehoreoz on Wed, 01 August 2012, 02:55:19
need a usb keyboard that doesn't have any issues with multiple key presses. i bought a generic qsenn starcraft keyboard and realized it has to be usb for the lan im likely to end up going to(no idea if the usb version is as good as the ps2 one)

just looking for a standard keyboard, no ultra flatkeys etc. I've used generic dell ones that work fine but I don't recall model numbers.. currently using a keytronics and the a key randomly doesnt work which is IRRITATING AS ****

thanks for any help
Title: Re: reliable, cheap dome keyboard for gaming
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 01 August 2012, 19:43:53
I don't have any experience with it, but this keyboard claims to have more than 2KRO.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201048

What I'd do is get a used mechanical (like a cherry g80-11900 or some Access-IS) on ebay that has NKRO diodes. I don't know which cherry models have the diodes, but both my access-IS keyboards have them.
Title: Re: reliable, cheap dome keyboard for gaming
Post by: Lethal Squirrel on Wed, 01 August 2012, 22:57:40
Yeah I agree. get yourself a decent mechanical keyboard, and you'll be wondering why you even considered a rubber dome. Even something like this would be much better. and its more than 2KRO I believe.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-PS2-Black-POS-Keyboard-ML4100-G84-4110PPAUS-/360433269104?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item53eb7f3970#ht_2277wt_1400
Title: Re: reliable, cheap dome keyboard for gaming
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Wed, 01 August 2012, 23:42:39
Interesting, they used to have a rosewill gaming one for about $15 that ripster said was good. Nothing I see currently for sale looks like it.

Have you actually had problems with KRO related issues? That a key might just be broken, or you got "lucky" on the matrix layout.

You could also always just get a ps2 -> usb adapter and use the one you got. You'd just have to make sure to get one that doesn't suck.
Title: Re: reliable, cheap dome keyboard for gaming
Post by: sth on Wed, 01 August 2012, 23:43:44
Interesting, they used to have a rosewill gaming one for about $15 that ripster said was good. Nothing I see currently for sale looks like it.

Have you actually had problems with KRO related issues? That a key might just be broken, or you got "lucky" on the matrix layout.

You could also always just get a ps2 -> usb adapter and use the one you got. You'd just have to make sure to get one that doesn't suck.
That won't help rollover issues.
Title: Re: reliable, cheap dome keyboard for gaming
Post by: tehoreoz on Wed, 01 August 2012, 23:56:46
i have a das keyboard, one of the keys went out long ago. trust me when I say that I experienced the mechanical keyboard feeling long before it became popular(~2008) and sincerely don't think it's worth the money. I've CONSIDERED a usb unicomp customizer at times but I think the price got hiked due to all the mechanical keyboard hype as of late.. on top of not knowing if its going to have **** input like the one im using now
Title: Re: reliable, cheap dome keyboard for gaming
Post by: False_Dmitry_II on Thu, 02 August 2012, 00:20:20
Well he said he got a different one, but is assuming he can't use it because it is PS2. Ergo, adapter.

I'll add that mechanical keyboards aren't all that much if you stick with vintage stuff. If you haven't used buckling springs before though, I'd get at least a model m on ebay and an adapter.

I'm not sure I'd call it popular quite yet.
Title: Re: reliable, cheap dome keyboard for gaming
Post by: tehoreoz on Thu, 02 August 2012, 01:24:07
is there any evidence of whether or not theres disadvantages via input lag added, etc using a ps2 -> usb adapter?
Title: Re: reliable, cheap dome keyboard for gaming
Post by: therecorder on Thu, 02 August 2012, 01:49:26
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-JQD-00001-SideWinder-X4-Keyboard/dp/B002ZV51DI
Title: Re: reliable, cheap dome keyboard for gaming
Post by: tehoreoz on Thu, 02 August 2012, 02:36:03
sidewinder is pretty expensive considering I won't use any of its features really. I did look into their antighost tech, which is cool though.
Title: Re: reliable, cheap dome keyboard for gaming
Post by: xyril on Thu, 02 August 2012, 02:39:40
Logitech G15 - G11 etc... or Qsenn DT-35
Title: Re: reliable, cheap dome keyboard for gaming
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 02 August 2012, 10:05:43
Logitech G15 - G11 etc... or Qsenn DT-35
Aren't those all 2KRO?

Interesting, they used to have a rosewill gaming one for about $15 that ripster said was good. Nothing I see currently for sale looks like it.

Have you actually had problems with KRO related issues? That a key might just be broken, or you got "lucky" on the matrix layout.

You could also always just get a ps2 -> usb adapter and use the one you got. You'd just have to make sure to get one that doesn't suck.
That won't help rollover issues.
It will if you get/make a soarer ps2 to USB.
Yeah I agree. get yourself a decent mechanical keyboard, and you'll be wondering why you even considered a rubber dome. Even something like this would be much better. and its more than 2KRO I believe.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-PS2-Black-POS-Keyboard-ML4100-G84-4110PPAUS-/360433269104?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item53eb7f3970#ht_2277wt_1400
My cherry G84-4101 is 2KRO, and it has more rollover issues than any keyboard I've ever seen, unfortunately.
Title: Re: reliable, cheap dome keyboard for gaming
Post by: jellowiggler on Thu, 02 August 2012, 13:28:25
I ended up getting a MS Sidewinder X4 for my full keyboard,backlit gaming needs.  My Filco tenkeyless is what I normally use.  There are some sims that need keypad keys that registers the presses as num pad keys, not just the same codes is the normal location keys.  I got it NIB for $30.  You just have to watch ebay and kijiji in your area.