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Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: o2dazone on Sat, 13 June 2009, 14:14:24

While I don't like to figuratively BLOW any vendor, Elitekeyboards.com does good work. I've gotten free upgraded shipping from them, Red ESC key with another purchase, and continually great prices and extremely fast shipping. Honestly, if I was interested in a product that Elitekeyboards didn't stock, but intended to in the future, I would probably just wait it out until I could buy it from them, as I did with the HHK. And good thing too, because I saved $30 doing so lol

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: Hamps on Sat, 13 June 2009, 15:16:20

Yes, thank you Majestouch! It was great timing too since I was almost about to settle for Brown Cherries. I reaaaally wanted a Blue Cherry board though, and then I saw the newsletter! Plus, they had the blank keycaps for it. I can't wait for it to arrive. I'm so impatient though... this is gonna be terrible until it gets here.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: Viett on Sat, 13 June 2009, 15:18:16

I ordered a Blue Cherry Filco yesterday. I've been looking forward to it for quite some time.

Majestouch has definitely done a terrific job.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: Manyak on Sat, 13 June 2009, 21:59:47

Yes, Majestouch is great :D

I was honestly expecting to see a hefty markup on the blue cherry boards, partly because he knows that a bunch of us are waiting in anticipation, partly because he's the only one that sells them in the US, and partly to try and make up for any people that said they wanted one but aren't going through with the purchase. But nope, they're priced exactly the same as the brown cherry models! Can't beat that.

Thank you for being one of the few businesses around that still cares about what the customer wants, and for putting in the effort and taking the risk to get these boards for us.


You know Majestouch, you should try and get the Filco boards onto newegg.com. There are a ton of computer geeks that don't know about any product that isn't listed on that site, and you're very likely to get a ton of sales just from them.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: rdjack21 on Sat, 13 June 2009, 22:07:07

Quote from: ripster;96063

Yeah, rub it in.  I would have saved almost $60 on my 87U.  But I consider mine special because it is SN 90300207A.  Maybe it was #207 off the line.  Maybe.

LOL my 87U SN is 90300036A I guess that makes mine younger :) I wonder if that is why crescent-shop charged me so much for it.

Now on to the Blue cherry Filco's why OH Why did they have to come in when I can't order one! My wallet got emptied by my new Truck and now I can't get one of the keyboards I want most :( I really hope he rat holes a few so in a month or so I can still get one. But I really bet the GeekHackers will buy them all up before I can get one :(

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: poonsmjj on Sat, 13 June 2009, 22:32:14

Thank you for the blue cherry filcos majestouch!! One question though - do you have any idea if they will be releasing a full-sized keyboard with blue cherrys? I'd prefer one of those - however if it doesn't seem likely I'll pull the trigger for a tenkeyless. Thanks!

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Sat, 13 June 2009, 23:10:24

Thank you Majestouch!

I ordered my Blue Cherry Filco from them yesterday and I can't wait to receive it! I remember ripster and I had the same thought that the board was going to cost somewhere around $130-$140 + shipping, but Elitekeyboards decided to not charge us the hyped prices.

BTW, I'm hoping they will send me a red escape key because that will make my board look mighty sick =P

Also, I sent them a couple of questions last night at 12 a.m. about the LED colors and W,A,S,D kit and they RESPONDED! It felt like they had 24 hour service or something. That's a plus right there =)


EDIT:

Oh btw, which blue cherry did you guys order? I ordered the blank one =)

Also, has anyone tried out that 'zero' tenkeyless yet? How does that one compare to like a AT101W?

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: Viett on Sat, 13 June 2009, 23:26:18

Blank, of course. I know where all of the keys are already, but it will look neat aesthetically.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Sat, 13 June 2009, 23:30:45

Quote from: Viett;96144

Blank, of course. I know where all of the keys are already, but it will look neat aesthetically.

^^^^^^^cosign^^^^^^

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: Manyak on Sat, 13 June 2009, 23:33:11

I ordered printed keys. But now I'm starting to have second thoughts, the blank one really does look better.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Sun, 14 June 2009, 00:03:39

Quote from: ripster;96148

I ordered printed.  I plan on getting the blank keys later on to goof around with later.  Maximum flexibility that way in case I want to give one to my son (I was going to give him the Das but well...).

damn I wish I'm your son... being able to receive some awesome hand-me-down keyboards.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Sun, 14 June 2009, 00:24:25

Quote from: ripster;96152

I'll set a high barrier.  Maybe HS Valedictorian.   Intel Science Foundation Science Prize winner.  

Do they award the Nobel Prize to 18 yr olds??

Sad thing is I know it'll end up being a victim to beer in some dorm room.

huh?

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 14 June 2009, 06:01:49

Ordering mine now :)

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: kyamei on Sun, 14 June 2009, 06:12:09

Ordered a blue cherry with printed caps as soon as I got the newsletter the other day.  Of course majestouch is probably going to announce a 104 key version next week and I'll be shooting myself in the foot, but oh wells.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: ironcoder on Sun, 14 June 2009, 06:42:33

Yeah I kinda think I may go for a Realforce 87 rather than a 10kl filco. I only use one damn key on the 10k pad but man is it handy. So many kbs!

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 14 June 2009, 07:57:27

Quote from: ironcoder;96188

Yeah I kinda think I may go for a Realforce 87 rather than a 10kl filco. I only use one damn key on the 10k pad but man is it handy. So many kbs!

Which one is that?

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: ironcoder on Sun, 14 June 2009, 08:05:13

The End key. And for he life of me I can't find another key to replace it. I use the "other" end key for something else.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: Rajagra on Sun, 14 June 2009, 08:09:46

Quote from: ironcoder;96198

The End key. And for he life of me I can't find another key to replace it. I use the "other" end key for something else.

Now I'm really confused!

Anyhow, can you use KeyTweak to reprogram the Scroll Lock to do what you need?

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: ironcoder on Sun, 14 June 2009, 08:25:47

Thanks. I don't run Winbloze so that won't help. And on some of my systems (BSD notably) I actually need the scroll lock to be a scroll lock- but a software solution that only runs in X might be ok. The great thing about the End key is it's on the end. If I hit the key next to the scroll lock by mistake, I could lose a lot of work. Maybe I'll try using one of those stupid Windows keys if my systems will recognize it.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 14 June 2009, 08:34:17

Well, the filcos have an end key too... Does the software you use in BSD not give an "Are you sure?" warning if you hit Delete by mistake?

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: ironcoder on Sun, 14 June 2009, 08:52:08

There are two ends. I use both of them:

Insert Home PageUp
Delete End PageDown

and then on the 10K there is the End key on the #1.

In BSD you need scroll lock on the console. The possible data loss comes if I hit the Pause/Break key in an X session on any system, not just BSD.

I'll have to try the Winbloze keys and see if it works. Thanks again.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 14 June 2009, 09:33:01

What about a seperate numpad? One of those and a filco is still much cheaper than a Realforce.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: ironcoder on Sun, 14 June 2009, 11:55:46

No, I hate gadgets and having stuff all over the desk. I want everything right in front of me and in one piece.

Thanks for your help, you can just ignore me now ;)

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: o2dazone on Sun, 14 June 2009, 13:12:49

we're missing webwit in here to **** on this thread
"A bunch of Costar garbage aughhhhhhhhhh *Hollander rage*"

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: o2dazone on Sun, 14 June 2009, 14:27:13

Quote from: webwit;96270

Actually I'm in the process of buying a whole lot of stuff from elitekeyboards. Including the 4 different tenkey-less switch types. Awaiting that shipping quote..

you're losing your edge :(

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Sun, 14 June 2009, 16:51:29

where is majestouch? I haven't seen him post lately =P

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 14 June 2009, 17:13:36

Probably dealing with orders for those blue cherries? I was emailing him earlier when I was ordering mine. Very helpful guy.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: IBI on Sun, 14 June 2009, 18:27:02

Quote from: webwit;96299

Europe is not afraid of Chuck Norris. The Techno Viking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1nzEFMjkI4) will kick his ass.

Or he may wander into Banksy and end up wrestling an internet meme.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: majestouch on Sun, 14 June 2009, 21:50:12

Quote from: Manyak;96130

Yes, Majestouch is great :D

Thank you for being one of the few businesses around that still cares about what the customer wants, and for putting in the effort and taking the risk to get these boards for us.

You know Majestouch, you should try and get the Filco boards onto newegg.com. There are a ton of computer geeks that don't know about any product that isn't listed on that site, and you're very likely to get a ton of sales just from them.

Thank you Manyak, I spent some time working in Japan, and I learned that the word "service" is a word and idea they learned from America a long time ago. Since then, this word has come to mean nothing in America; heck I think waiters want 18% gratuity these days, then give chase out to the parking lot if you don't pony up. Newegg shipped me a HDD a couple months back that was sitting BARE on the bottom of the box; some packing peanuts and a torn tunnel of bubble wrap with half the bubbles popped rested gently on top of my precious HDD. GRRrrr...packing peanuts...Also, their pricing structure for shipping is a profit scheme I liken to shady ebayers that live in a van down by the river (http://www.hulu.com/watch/4183/saturday-night-live-down-by-the-river). The only thing they got going for them is that they the took a hint at the oh-so-obvious void in the web retail electronics business about 7 years back and hired some reasonably astute programmers to maintain their website. While I'd welcome selling more keyboards, I, fortunately or unfortunately, have too much perspective to sit back and watch other people continue "business as usual." In fact, Diatec products wouldn't have distributorship outside of Asian countries at all if they thought I was your typical used-car dealer; so I'm finding the place in the market for Diatec products  with quite a bit of conservativism.

BTW, great writeup over on overclock.net!

Quote from: poonsmjj;96137

Thank you for the blue cherry filcos majestouch!! One question though - do you have any idea if they will be releasing a full-sized keyboard with blue cherrys? I'd prefer one of those - however if it doesn't seem likely I'll pull the trigger for a tenkeyless. Thanks!

A full size NKRO board with blue Cherries does look to be a good stand in for Das Problem in the market! I won't announce these next week, but stay tuned.

Quote from: watduzhkstand4;96141

Thank you Majestouch!

I ordered my Blue Cherry Filco from them yesterday and I can't wait to receive it! I remember ripster and I had the same thought that the board was going to cost somewhere around $130-$140 + shipping, but Elitekeyboards decided to not charge us the hyped prices.

You're welcome, a higher price lowers my sales and my reputation for service and transparency; making me look like an ass, and making you feel like one should you decide to go along for the ride. It's not my style.

Quote from: Manyak;96147

I ordered printed keys. But now I'm starting to have second thoughts, the blank one really does look better.

You can still change your order, please send an email to sales@elitekeyboards.com.

Quote from: watduzhkstand4;96300

where is majestouch? I haven't seen him post lately =P

I'm back, and it's not a tumor (see avatar) Actually, I'm entering all these blue Cherry sales! Thanks everyone!

Quote from: ripster;96307

And Majestouch, well he better be busy stuffing boxes with Japanese newspapers and Filcos because Paypal says he has my money.

Japanese newspaper cost extra. Did you add that to your order?

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Sun, 14 June 2009, 22:50:42

Again Majestouch, thanks for making the effort to reach out to our needs. I will definitely shop from elitekeyboards again =)

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: Mercen_505 on Mon, 15 June 2009, 11:54:01

Quote

Speaking of packaging I got a 1 TB Hitachi Hard drive from Newegg two days ago ($75, free shipping, storage is so cheap these days).

Small world. I ordered the same, and got mine in on Friday. The drive works well :)

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: ch_123 on Mon, 15 June 2009, 12:14:05

Quote from: ripster;96478

Double LOL - THIS ONE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrMURochE6Y) is for Webwit (insert Nederlands instead of DeutschLand).

I can somehow picture that scene happening at Unicomp HQ with Jim Owens et al xD

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: SUPER432 on Mon, 15 June 2009, 12:44:46

Ordered my tenkeyless blue cherry BLANK keyboard and got tracking for it.  Should be arriving in a couple of days.  Couldn't be happier!

On a side not, I was pleasantly surprised that the blank version did not have a price premium over the normal one, or any of the tenkeyless boards for that matter.  Don't really see this behavior from vendors anymore!

Thanks!

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Mon, 15 June 2009, 15:16:14

Quote from: SUPER432;96488

Ordered my tenkeyless blue cherry BLANK keyboard and got tracking for it.  Should be arriving in a couple of days.  Couldn't be happier!

On a side not, I was pleasantly surprised that the blank version did not have a price premium over the normal one, or any of the tenkeyless boards for that matter.  Don't really see this behavior from vendors anymore!

Thanks!

Majestouch is the man!

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: Viett on Mon, 15 June 2009, 18:15:16

Still no word from EliteKeyboards.. and I placed an order on Friday. I've only received a PayPal transaction receipt. Hopefully I was not forgotten.

Update: Majestouch has contacted me and the issue was worked out. There was some sort of PayPal error.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: Manyak on Mon, 15 June 2009, 20:19:06

Quote from: majestouch;96355

Thank you Manyak, I spent some time working in Japan, and I learned that the word "service" is a word and idea they learned from America a long time ago. Since then, this word has come to mean nothing in America; heck I think waiters want 18% gratuity these days, then give chase out to the parking lot if you don't pony up. Newegg shipped me a HDD a couple months back that was sitting BARE on the bottom of the box; some packing peanuts and a torn tunnel of bubble wrap with half the bubbles popped rested gently on top of my precious HDD. GRRrrr...packing peanuts...Also, their pricing structure for shipping is a profit scheme I liken to shady ebayers that live in a van down by the river (http://www.hulu.com/watch/4183/saturday-night-live-down-by-the-river). The only thing they got going for them is that they the took a hint at the oh-so-obvious void in the web retail electronics business about 7 years back and hired some reasonably astute programmers to maintain their website. While I'd welcome selling more keyboards, I, fortunately or unfortunately, have too much perspective to sit back and watch other people continue "business as usual." In fact, Diatec products wouldn't have distributorship outside of Asian countries at all if they thought I was your typical used-car dealer; so I'm finding the place in the market for Diatec products  with quite a bit of conservativism.

BTW, great writeup over on overclock.net!

I can definitely respect that. You can be sure I'm recommending your store to everyone :)

And thanks, I'm hoping to get as many people interested in mechanicals as possible - every time someone buys a G15 because it has 'anti-ghosting' it makes me want to kill baby kittens.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: jkkhop on Tue, 16 June 2009, 07:03:21

Just ordered a Filco 87-key with Brown Cherries. How fast do they usually ship to Europe?

It's going to be very interesting.. to type on a mechanical keyboard for the 1st time :)

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: Rajagra on Tue, 16 June 2009, 15:01:37

Quote from: ripster;96485

Yeah, Americans have got their Digital TV but the metric thing will take us a while.  

It's not that hard, but it's not cheap either.

This is USPS for a 5 lb package. (http://ircalc.usps.gov/IntlMailServices.aspx?Country=10142&M=2&P=5&O=0&sd=1)

I just ordered something from London.  We'll see how long the Royal Mail takes.

Good news! UPS have their drivers working out so they can deliver over longer distances...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgAq_KnDIPc

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: majestouch on Wed, 17 June 2009, 03:08:45

Quote from: jkkhop;96672

Just ordered a Filco 87-key with Brown Cherries. How fast do they usually ship to Europe?

It's going to be very interesting.. to type on a mechanical keyboard for the 1st time :)

The Brown Cherry MX switches are really great for transition into mechanical keyboards for your first time. I hope you like it!

Quote from: Rajagra;96838

Good news! UPS have their drivers working out so they can deliver over longer distances...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgAq_KnDIPc

While an extreme example, I've actually seen UPS pull package tossing tricks before. This is one of the reasons I use Fedex.

Quote from: ripster;96842

LOL.  At least he didn't throw the dog.

All I know if I don't get my Blue Cherry Keyboard Thursday Majestouch is doomed.  DOOMED! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmZRDUO1wGQ)

Careful, I know where you live ripster. I always liked this FedEx commercial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Set-r53xvBI&NR=1

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 17 June 2009, 10:33:51

I have seen that ad, but I can't remember if I saw it when it actually ran as a kid, or if I saw it later in one of those "funniest-commercials-ever" shows.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: lam47 on Wed, 17 June 2009, 11:29:11

Come on Ripster where is the board?
I want to see it!

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: lam47 on Wed, 17 June 2009, 12:06:11

I was not a Das fan by a long shot. It was just very poorly put together.
I would like to see some nice photos of the box and the board and everything :)
You like pictures don't you :)

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: Stevie Wonder on Wed, 17 June 2009, 12:08:21

This forum allows pictures?

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 17 June 2009, 12:24:43

Quote from: Stevie Wonder;97107

This forum allows pictures?

Don't worry, Stevie, I can't see most of them, either.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: Rajagra on Wed, 17 June 2009, 13:09:45

Quote from: Stevie Wonder;97107

This forum allows pictures?

No Sir, no pictures here.

(http://www.kinkerbelle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/porn-for-the-blind.jpg)

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 17 June 2009, 13:13:06

Quote from: Rajagra;97137

No Sir, no pictures here.
 

Show Image

(http://www.kinkerbelle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/porn-for-the-blind.jpg)

Yeah, pretty much. :(

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: wellington1869 on Wed, 17 June 2009, 13:43:25

Quote from: lam47;97104

You like pictures don't you :)

if ripster had a choice, he would act out all his sentences in mime. ;)

Title: got it!
Post by: kencheeto on Thu, 18 June 2009, 02:10:01

Got mine in this morning, and have been typing all day on it.
Coming from the mushy world of membrane keyboards, I've been lurking this forum for a few weeks now and was seriously considering a Scorpius M10.

Glad I threw that out the window and jumped on the blue cherry tenkeyless.
Looks just like the pictures; LED indicators are a good brightness, and the build quality is superb. Had an Enermax Aurora Micro laptop-style and thought I'd been spoiling myself.. but this, this is a new level of awesome.

I could take pics if you all would like, but all you'd see is the keyboard from the website sitting on my desk :). I'm sure Ripster's review will be much more valuable to you all.

btw- second day shipping is $20 vs the standard $11. Worth it for me. Clicky, tactile, and my fingers thank me.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 03:31:49

Quote from: kencheeto;97297

Got mine in this morning, and have been typing all day on it.
Coming from the mushy world of membrane keyboards, I've been lurking this forum for a few weeks now and was seriously considering a Scorpius M10.

Glad I threw that out the window and jumped on the blue cherry tenkeyless.
Looks just like the pictures; LED indicators are a good brightness, and the build quality is superb. Had an Enermax Aurora Micro laptop-style and thought I'd been spoiling myself.. but this, this is a new level of awesome.

I could take pics if you all would like, but all you'd see is the keyboard from the website sitting on my desk :). I'm sure Ripster's review will be much more valuable to you all.

btw- second day shipping is $20 vs the standard $11. Worth it for me. Clicky, tactile, and my fingers thank me.

So instead of doing the $20 I did the $11 and bought myself the WASD keys

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 06:24:29

Mine is still on the "Electronic shipping info received" status on the USPS tracking page...

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: lam47 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 07:22:45

Quote from: ch_123;97301

Mine is still on the "Electronic shipping info received" status on the USPS tracking page...

I have a graphics card that has had the same status as that for 4 days now :(

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: OverSky on Thu, 18 June 2009, 07:50:13

If anyone is thinking of ordering anything from the site but hesitant for any reason check this out:

>>Note from Merchant:      
>>You received a full or partial refund of $10.00 USD from EliteKeyboards.
>>
>>We switched to FedEx for Canadian shipments, so here is a refund of the difference.

So, awesome.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 18 June 2009, 08:09:22

Elitekeyboards (majestouch) is one of the best online retailers I have purchased from.  I think it's the personal attention to each order that make the buying experience as great as it is.  This is just another example of the "extra mile" majestouch goes to ensure customer satisfaction.  A real, old-school customer servant.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: lam47 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 08:21:28

I'ts true. He did in fact offer me a way to get a Filco over here which would have cost him personally!
However the very kind itlnstln offered to help and it worked out cheaper and less risky over all.
You are both great :)

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: jkkhop on Thu, 18 June 2009, 09:12:20

Waiting for my Filco too! USPS tracking system says it's in "Acceptance". I wish  it was next week already.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: jkkhop on Thu, 18 June 2009, 09:34:54

By the way.. I ordered the one with blank keys (the regular one was out of stock). By looking at the pictures in elitekeyboards.com, the regular FKBN87M/EB looks shiny and blacker than the FKBN87M/NPEK, which looks like it had a black matte finish on the whole kb, not just the keys.

Do you know if the two really look just the same except for the letters on the FKBN87M/EB?

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 09:54:11

I couldnt see much of a difference (aside from the lack of lettering) but the lettering on the lettered ones supposedly has a problem with fading off and becoming shiny, so if the blank ones are of a different finish, perhaps they might be more durable?

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: jkkhop on Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:06:03

All right.. Thanks ch_123 and ripster for the input.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:10:12

Quote from: ch_123;97333

I couldnt see much of a difference (aside from the lack of lettering) but the lettering on the lettered ones supposedly has a problem with fading off and becoming shiny, so if the blank ones are of a different finish, perhaps they might be more durable?

The lettering doesn't come off, just the coating.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: jkkhop on Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:14:30

Quote from: ripster;97339

NP - odd that you said the Blue Cherry Lettered keyboard was out of stock.  I just checked it and it seems to be in stock  (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=fkbn87mceb)(added it to cart).

No it's the Brown Cherry Filco I was talking about! The guy told me in an email that the lettered one was out of stock, so I picked the Otaku one :)

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: lam47 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:17:27

So this coating. Does it wear away that quickly? I do not like the sound of that at all.

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: jkkhop on Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:21:53

Filco's naming scheme is unnecessarily complicated tbh :)

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:26:04

Quote from: lam47;97342

So this coating. Does it wear away that quickly? I do not like the sound of that at all.

 
Give it about 3-4 weeks.  You will start to notice the wear on oft-used keys like R, S, T, L, N, and E.  You can wash your hands all you want.  It's coming off.  It happened on my ABSs and the Filco.

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Post by: jkkhop on Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:31:06

Quote from: itlnstln

Give it about 3-4 weeks.  You will start to notice the wear on oft-used keys like R, S, T, L, N, and E.  You can wash your hands all you want.  It's coming off.  It happened on my ABSs and the Filco.

Fudge.. So IBM/Topre don't have this coating and don't wear in? I'm might be starting to get interested in the HHKB Pro 2 :P

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Post by: lam47 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:35:33

I wont be using it if it makes shiny spots. I hate how that looks.
No need to worry about the letters as I ordered the blank one.
I guess any key does become shiny after a while no matter how it is made.
My HH has a spot just starting on the space bar.

Seems silly to make this coating that only lasts a few weeks? Whats the point of it?

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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:36:45

Quote from: jkkhop;97347

Fudge.. So IBM/Topre don't have this coating and don't wear in? I'm might be starting to get interested in the HHKB Pro 2 :P

No.  Those keys have textured plastic.  They won't go shiny for quite some time (they will, eventually, with enough use).  Costar used smooth plastic keys with a matte and sort of textured coating (think of a clear coat on a car).  Since you are touching the keys with your fingers (at least I hope you are), the oils from your skin break down the coating and, eventually, wear it away.  Since the coating is more ***ile than plastic, it doesn't take near as long for it to wear away.  You can wash you hands all you want, but you will always have some sort of oils on your skin, so wearing off the coating is inevitable.

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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:45:21

When majestouch gets the blank keycaps in, those won't be coated, so they will be shiny from the start (I assume). I am going to replace my caps with those, and then they will all be equally shiny. When the caps go shiny, it's not like a mirror finish, it's still pretty matte. It's just not quite as matte as the keys with the coating intact. It's not something you really see unless you are studying the keys.

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Post by: lam47 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 10:58:53

Right so will the blank Filco I have ordered have the coating or not?
I don't suppose anyone has photos of this?
Thanks for the info itlnstln.

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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 18 June 2009, 11:07:54

Quote from: lam47;97363

Right so will the blank Filco I have ordered have the coating or not?
I don't suppose anyone has photos of this?
Thanks for the info itlnstln.

Yes, the blank Filco will have the coating. According to majestouch, they spray the coating on the keycaps after the caps have been mounted to the switches. Since the blank caps majestouch will be getting are straight off the production line and haven't been mounted, they will not have the coating. To me, that's an odd process (mount caps, then spray), but they are the manufacturing experts. I would have thought it would have been easier to spray them off the switches.
 
If you look in the original "Filcos in the USA" thread (I think that's the title), majestouch shows a pic of his personal keyboard. In that pic, you can see a little of the shinyness, but it's kinda hard to see. I only noticed it, because I saw the same thing on my ABSs.

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Post by: lam47 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 11:25:35

Good to know mate :) I will go and have a look at the thread.
Do you know when these key caps are supposed to be available. I could do with a set for my HH too actually.
Looking forward to it. I just realized I don't have any Cherry boards! Now that is just wrong.

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Post by: ssb on Thu, 18 June 2009, 11:47:00

Even Topre keys are getting shining marks after a while. :rolleyes:

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=2689&stc=1&d=1245343542)

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Post by: lam47 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 11:54:04

Nooooooooooooooooooooo I don't like the shine.
I can't see the reasoning behind Filco using a coating that wears away so fast and yet still use it as an advertised feature of the board.
Good job I dont have oily hands.

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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 18 June 2009, 11:57:23

Quote from: lam47;97386

Good job I dont have oily hands.

I don't, either.  In fact, mine are probably too dry.  It doesn't seem to matter, though.

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Post by: itlnstln on Thu, 18 June 2009, 12:04:52

Quote from: ripster;97391

What's funny about this discussion is that we are talking about plastics here. When I talk "well made" to my Dad he says METAL baby!

I would love to have a keyboard made from anodized aluminum.  The keys would never go shiny then.  They would have a nice grippy feel, too.

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Post by: ssb on Thu, 18 June 2009, 12:12:30

Quote from: itlnstln;97394

I would love to have a keyboard made from anodized aluminum.  The keys would never go shiny then.

Don't bet on it. The only keycaps then never go shiny are ...glossy ones. :biggrin:

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Post by: majestouch on Thu, 18 June 2009, 13:44:03

I often wonder if the type and thickness of the keycap plastic chosen dictate what other process can be applied to the plastic; i.e. how much physical texture can be created. If you look closely at the surface of a Realforce key, you'll see they have a physical texture to them, but it differs slightly not only from key to key but from board to board, so I think this is not a simple process. However, even physical texture will wear down over time. I think the coated texture on my 3+ year old FILCO has worn gracefully; slower than some others report, but everyone has differing amounts of oil/dirt/roughness/fingernails at their fingertips. And unless you shine a bright light on my 3 year old keys, then the wear isn't obvious, it blends well.

As for blank Topre keys, blank Realforce keys don't look to be available, but HHKB will be.

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Post by: lam47 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 15:04:17

Well that is more reassuring!
Good news on the HH keys too. Do you know what the price will be yet?

Oh and sorry to just keep asking what you will be stocking but ;) How about the red escape keys for the filco boards?
I will be sure to order some more smaller items from you that I know customs will not stop and charge an arm and a leg for :)

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Post by: ssb on Thu, 18 June 2009, 16:17:30

Quote from: majestouch;97440

As for blank Topre keys, blank Realforce keys don't look to be available, but HHKB will be.

What about labeled ones; are they available as spare parts?

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Post by: lam47 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 17:14:33

Hey ripster. Do the Windows keys on your Das fit in with the Filco keys? I have some spare Das ones and will replace the ones on the Filco with the blob on if they look the same.

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Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 17:17:01

Most important question of them all - how is the wrist-rest? :p

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Post by: Hamps on Thu, 18 June 2009, 17:17:59

I'm still stuck on

Quote

Next scheduled tracking update: Jun 18, 2009

How's it sound and feel in comparison to the Das? I suppose I could wait to find out myself but... URGH C'MON FEDEX

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Post by: lam47 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 17:56:23

I like the look of these :)
http://www.leopold.co.kr/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1244426282
(http://www.leopold.co.kr/data/cheditor/0906/orange.jpg)

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Post by: o2dazone on Thu, 18 June 2009, 18:04:30

Leopold products :(

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Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 18:13:26

I'd prefer the blue/purple. That said, I'd probably get both - use purple for WASD and orange for arrows :)

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Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 18:27:16

Quote from: ch_123;97517

I'd prefer the blue/purple. That said, I'd probably get both - use purple for WASD and orange for arrows :)

yes I love that idea! Now where are we gonna get it? the purple WASD are coming with the Filco board but I still want the purple ones without the WASD. I like it either only with the arrows on the front of the key or nothing at all =)

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Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 19:08:49

Quote from: ripster;97521

By the way, not to sound ungrateful or anything, but the Topre Red ESC key PWNs the Filco Red ESC key.  When I have time I'll take pics and show you why.

how are they different?

Also, what happened to the blank keys thread? Are we still going to do it?

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Post by: majestouch on Thu, 18 June 2009, 19:11:17

Quote from: ripster;97521

I don't speak Korean but if you look at the bottom of the page it looks to me like they are doing a poll of what color keys people want next.  Better get some Korean buddies if you want custom color keys.

By the way, not to sound ungrateful or anything, but the Topre Red ESC key PWNs the Filco Red ESC key.  When I have time I'll take pics and show you why.

When you look at the keys side by side, the Topre key has thicker more opaque plastic and a nice texture, but then again it comes with a keyboard that has a NASA price tag :)

I think the lightweight plastic used for FILCO keys compliment Cherry MX switches. Anything heavier would probably dull the tactility and fast action, but then I'm biased as always... :llama:

Title: Thanks To Majestouch For Bringing Us Blue Cherry Filcos!!
Post by: loofa on Thu, 18 June 2009, 19:15:41

I'm really enjoying my cherry-blue Filco that arrived this afternoon.   I prefer it to the brown version that I've only had for a week.  :)

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Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 20:26:21

Quote from: loofa;97531

I'm really enjoying my cherry-blue Filco that arrived this afternoon.   I prefer it to the brown version that I've only had for a week.  :)

I'm still waiting for mine to be delivered tomorrow!

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Post by: DrunkenDonut on Thu, 18 June 2009, 22:28:17

4 more (business?) days until I can play.. apparently it's leaving Toledo now.

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Post by: o2dazone on Thu, 18 June 2009, 22:51:37

how much you want for that red topre esc key :o

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Post by: o2dazone on Thu, 18 June 2009, 23:18:31

deal

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Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Thu, 18 June 2009, 23:47:24

I wish there was a red esc key for the Filco. I asked majestouch he said he's still tryna get some more, so instead I will be getting the red Filco key. =(

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Post by: majestouch on Thu, 18 June 2009, 23:57:17

Quote from: ripster;97546

Geez, Majestouch.  All I was going to say was that I like the Blood Red color of the Topre key better than the Candy Red of the Filco.  It was FREE after all.  You better have a color calibrated monitor or you won't see the true color difference.

Show Image

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=2709&stc=1&d=1245381705)

But since you mention it.....

The Filco is pretty thin compared to the other keycaps of mine.  The Topre for example is 1.37mm.

Show Image

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=2710&stc=1&d=1245381935)

I'll take Majestouch's word that it helps give it that lively bouncy feel.

Good pic, looks accurate on my Eizo :) Thank you for using the metric system!

Yes, lively and bouncey...:llama:

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Post by: ironcoder on Fri, 19 June 2009, 03:14:31

Quote from: ripster;97546

But since you mention it.....

The Filco is pretty thin compared to the other keycaps of mine.  The Topre for example is 1.37mm.

I'll take Majestouch's word that it helps give it that lively bouncy feel.

Nah, that's what gives it the "NASA" price. Have you seen the price for a ton of alloy powder these days? To hell with orange futures...

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Post by: lam47 on Fri, 19 June 2009, 03:23:08

What do you use the vernier for on a day to day basis ripster?

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Post by: ironcoder on Fri, 19 June 2009, 03:32:45

That's kind of a personal question, ain't it?

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Post by: lam47 on Fri, 19 June 2009, 08:18:29

Do the purple keys have the coating? I have some of them here and think they do.
Its pretty subtle if they do.

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Post by: o2dazone on Fri, 19 June 2009, 08:38:21

Quote from: ironcoder;97573

That's kind of a personal question, ain't it?

(http://o2dazone.com/y/viewImage.php?id=86b01361ed8448acedee1a3fc36af781)

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Post by: watduzhkstand4 on Fri, 19 June 2009, 11:48:46

For sure this is my favorite keyboard =]
- Built quality is just superb.
- Weight is just perfect so that when I'm typing, the keyboard makes no movement.

Thanks to geekhack for this amazing forum and thanks again to Majestouch for bringing us all the pleasure. =)

(http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp129/watduzhkstand4/Keyboard%20and%20Mouse/IMG_0112.jpg)
(http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp129/watduzhkstand4/Keyboard%20and%20Mouse/IMG_0113.jpg)
(http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp129/watduzhkstand4/Keyboard%20and%20Mouse/IMG_0115.jpg)

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Post by: Special K on Fri, 19 June 2009, 13:56:58

Quote from: ripster;97541

Kencheeto and Loofa, it would be immature of us to gloat but....

Show Image

(http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/750/750316/haw-hawked-couple-20061211113650412.jpg)

Yeah, this keyboard is a blast.

Are you going to post a full review of it?

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Post by: alpslover on Fri, 19 June 2009, 15:01:18

to me the filco doesn't sound or feel substantially different than the das, but then again, i no longer have the das to do a back to back comparison.

the filco definitely types better.  no problems with input lag or character inversion, usb or ps/2.  n-key rollover is also fine (limited to 6 via usb).

nitpicks: the printing on the keycaps can be felt, like on the das.  and also like on the das, the longer keys (space bar, shift keys) could be stabilized a bit better.  i find that on both the filco and the das, the right shift can bind slightly if it's hit off center.  not enough to cause the key to stick, but just enough to add a little bit more resistance to the keystroke.  it's noticeable if you jump on it after using a keyboard that has very stable larger keys, like a realforce.

build quality is very good, considering it's made in taiwan.

and of course majestouch's service was excellent.

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Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 19 June 2009, 15:19:56

Does the spacebar use Green switches or blues?

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Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 19 June 2009, 15:27:00

Quote from: ch_123;97716

Does the spacebar use Green switches or blues?

In the brown 'boards, they use a brown switch.  The only 'board I, personally, have seen a green in was the MX-11800.  Even my Cherry G80-3000 has a brown in the spacebar.

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Post by: alpslover on Fri, 19 June 2009, 23:40:43

Quote from: ripster;97709

Someone was having that problem with the spacebar and I'm having a hard time replicating it.  Even Majestouch felt it.  Is it with a light keystroke - edge of key - right or left offcenter on the spacebar???

the spacebar isn't much of an issue for me.  the right shift key binds slightly sometimes if it's hit towards the left edge.  the key still goes down, but it feels different.  not really a big deal.

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Post by: Hamps on Sat, 20 June 2009, 01:36:53

My Filco Clicky "Otaku" finally arrived today! I've been typing on it non-stop ever since I took it out of the box. I absolutely love everything about this keyboard! I'm so happy with the purchase. Thank you Majestouch!

I'm probably a noob by you guys' standards. I've seen some of the collections y'all are sporting lol. Sadly, I'm somewhat new to this scene in comparison. The only other mechanical keyswitch I've used regularly before getting this was a Cherry black linear. I've used Model Ms when I was a kid, but I can't remember them too much so I still consider myself a noob in this territory. However, my lack of experience may be useful for those visiting this forum in search of more information and perhaps a perspective from someone who didn't know what to expect.

First and foremost, the absolute best part about this keyboard is that I can totally trust my hands. I don't know if I can explain it properly, but I love being able to feel each keystroke and have it subconsciously register whether I pressed it accurately or not. My average typing speed is 120 WPM and at that speed I can't think about each and every keystroke. I have to rely on the feel of the 'board to let me know which key it was I messed up or if I'm typing just fine. I don't like to second guess myself when typing. It slows me down way too much.

I guess I should say that I technically have used Cherry blues before. I used a Das III for a day. I have felt them, but I don't consider myself to have actually "used" blues before this board because with the Das I had to actually think about my typing and make sure to be entirely purposeful with every keystroke since its infamous transposition problems were very evident at 120 WPM. Thankfully, the Filco 'board works exactly how it should and registers every keystroke properly so I'm finally able to just unleash the beast on the blues and feel the power. If I typo it's my typo, not the board's typo. I swear using the blues makes me type more accurately though since I can feel it better.

I know I haven't used browns, alps, etc. but I don't see how they could top these blues. They're just the right amount of force needed to actuate the key and I'm addicted to the sound. I've always loved the way certain keyboards sound and finally I have one that doesn't just thud thud thud away so boringly. Maybe I'm lucky and found my dream keyboard already. I hope I don't ever have to room with someone who can't stand the noise. I'd have to get browns I suppose, but I'm afraid of those being too light.

The Cherry blue clickies in comparison to my old Cherry black linears are like night and day for me. The blacks had a pretty tough spring in them and made my fingers tire out much quicker than any regular 'board. The linear feel of each stroke was also a bit confusing when first using it as well. It was almost impossible to trust my fingers because I didn't feel anything really. I didn't have the bump that the blues give to let me know I've actuated the key. I started bottoming out to get the feedback I needed which hurt my fingers. It sounds like I hate Cherry blacks now, but I don't. I do like them-- they're way better than rubber domes-- but going from black to blue is almost like going from rubber dome to blacks for me. Oh and now the tips of my fingers aren't black and blue... do ho ho

Oh and this board looks amazing. Even the Filco logo looks great! Thanks again Majestouch.

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Post by: kyamei on Sat, 20 June 2009, 05:00:54

Quote from: Hamps;97849

I know I haven't used browns, alps, etc. but I don't see how they could top these blues.

Keep on thinking this, it'll save your wallet.

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Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 20 June 2009, 05:22:46

Don't worry. Six months from now, he'll want a Topre :p

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Post by: jkkhop on Sat, 20 June 2009, 05:48:05

USPS tracker says mines still in "International dispatch" and has been for a couple of days..  going to take to Wednesday before it arrives, I guess.

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Post by: djones on Sun, 21 June 2009, 03:55:28

Number of quality keyboards sold to me by
God: 0
Obama: 0
Elite Keyboards: 2 (tenkeyless blues and blacks... not sure how I feel about the blacks yet, definitely liking the blues)

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Post by: ch_123 on Sun, 21 June 2009, 05:24:36

Blacks are meant to be great for gaming, but an old DEC board I used once put me off linear switches for life...