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Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: AndrewZorn on Thu, 19 November 2009, 20:10:11
i dont want one
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 19 November 2009, 20:20:48
I dont want one.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: msiegel on Thu, 19 November 2009, 20:22:43
i wanted one, but ended up with brown.

blue was out of stock :-/

so... model f mod ftw ;D
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Thu, 19 November 2009, 20:36:14
I like the look of the Filco, but I will not get one because I already have two keyboards with blue Cherries.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: patrickgeekhack on Thu, 19 November 2009, 20:37:08
Quote from: msiegel;134343
i wanted one, but ended up with brown.

blue was out of stock :-/

so... model f mod ftw ;D


Although completely different from the blue Cherries, the brown Cherries are nice to type on as well, aren't they?
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: AndrewZorn on Thu, 19 November 2009, 20:37:11
glad i had a powerful impact with my FIRST! post
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: ocdonkb on Thu, 19 November 2009, 20:40:15
So tempting, but I can't afford it.

What's the cheapest Blue cherry option? Is it still the ione scorpius m10?
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: didjamatic on Thu, 19 November 2009, 20:50:10
I just got mine this morning and am typing on it now.  It's louder than I expected, but I really like it.  The build quality is very good, the board is very heavy and solid.  I'm very impressed.  Will see if it's quiet enough to use when kids are sleeping.

I also ordered a Cherry Brown Otaku and really like that board as well.

I've been typing on a Compaq Brown Cherry board for a couple of weeks and though it does give you some idea of what the Filco will be like, the Fillco is a much better typing experience.  The base/board/case feels very solid and substantial where the Compaq is much more lightweight.  I think you could pound away on the Filco all day long and it wouldn't budge with it's heavy innards and rubber feet.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: rdjack21 on Thu, 19 November 2009, 22:03:24
Had one and sold it thank you very much...
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: AndrewZorn on Thu, 19 November 2009, 22:06:37
13 posts
one keyboard
hahahahahahha

man, i love my topre switches on my hhkb™

there, now this thread is as much topre as it is brown cherry as it is blue cherry
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: AndrewZorn on Thu, 19 November 2009, 22:31:28
hey, ill have my g80-3000 china edition as soon as those guys ship them next year
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: AndrewZorn on Thu, 19 November 2009, 22:36:02
thats okay, the longer it takes to ship them, the more worn your cheap filco keycaps are when mine arrives

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/294168009_b25decaddf.jpg)
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: AndrewZorn on Thu, 19 November 2009, 22:49:53
its impossible for the letters to even start wearing now, as by the time i use my m13, ill have the g80-3000!

topre spacebar isnt as shiny as your filco spacebar
so there
not that its shiny
but if it was
not that it is
i mean
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: rdjack21 on Thu, 19 November 2009, 23:03:02
Hey cool a Topre and Brown Cherry thread oh wait a minute I thought this thread was supposed to be about those high pitched Blue Cherry switches.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: AndrewZorn on Thu, 19 November 2009, 23:08:55
at least us topre owners (users) have the opportunity to use rubbers
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: AndrewZorn on Thu, 19 November 2009, 23:19:48
yeah i should instead visit the lego club
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: didjamatic on Thu, 19 November 2009, 23:51:11
Quote from: ripster;134383
OOoooo... getting a bit irritated are we.

Anyway.  I did receive a nice bag of goodies today in anticipation of the Blue Cherry Filco.
Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=5824&stc=1&d=1258692417)



Nice!  What caps are those?  Source?
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: rdjack21 on Fri, 20 November 2009, 12:50:43
He has been getting them off older cherry boards. Not sure where he got this set from though.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 20 November 2009, 13:07:18
I like those ivory keys.  That reminds me. I need to call Datacal.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 20 November 2009, 13:07:53
internet generation?  i use punctuation all the time.  how about, i REJECT your olde english and substitute my own better rules of grammar?  just like end punctuation inside quotes, it's such a joke.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 20 November 2009, 13:09:25
Quote from: AndrewZorn;134609
just like end punctuation inside quotes, it's such a joke.

To this, I say, "Ha ha."
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 20 November 2009, 13:11:07
have you ever considered how improper it is to change the original speaker's words when you say something like "Ha ha."?
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 20 November 2009, 13:12:36
"Huh?"
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 20 November 2009, 13:17:50
can be perfectly acceptable, but i quote you by going "Huh?".
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: mp29k on Fri, 20 November 2009, 13:52:22
I just want to reiterate the question: "Where is Yode?".

It is almost as if there was a terrible shipping accident between the fedex guy and an elephant loose from the zoo (being driven by a drunken monkey).
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 20 November 2009, 14:02:24
He was probably so overcome with joy that he had a heart attack.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: wellington1869 on Fri, 20 November 2009, 14:54:33
Quote from: ripster;134383


In other words, if I were you I'd start worrying about the letters rubbing off your M13.

And is your Topre spacebar shiny yet?


This part I dont get. For a while now (ever since the topic of filco key wear came up, actually) ripster has been pretending that all printed keys are the same.   When of course he was the one who first pointed out to us that in fact, keys and key printing and key construction are very different based on manufacturing method used.

So for instance, above, where he equates Filco keys to M13 keys. I dont get it. Let me be clear:

Ripster, are you stating here that M13 keys get shiny within 2 weeks like Filco keys? That they have a clearcoat which comes off in a month or two like Filco keys? Or that the actual printing has the same durability as m13 keys?

Heck, even Webwit (your BFF) said that he'd "never" seen an M13 with worn keys -- and keep in mind, these are boards that are 15 years old now. Yea, he said "never" - so if you want to quibble, dont quote me, quote him. Its one of my great disappointments that you two, at that point, didnt "go at it". I would have liked to have seen that, instead, the BFF's politely moved on to other topics ;-D )

So just wondering if you could clarify. Because the way you "equate" other keys to filco keys, one gets the impression that you think the key experience with all of them is the same.  Its not the same, of course. And I dont know why you would want to repeatedly imply that they're the same. Except to try to "exonerate" Filco keys at any expense. Which means fanboyism if you ask me.

Rippy, I have nothing against you personally, please understand that. I've always said your contributions here are top notch (and unlike your BFF Webwit, you dont descend into vulgarity at the first opportunity).  But I have to protest when you "spin" your Filco advocacy a bit too much.  Thats all.

Nor do I have anything against Filco boards -- I merely want people to be able to speak candidly about them, not feel like we have to immediately start making excuses when we find something we dont like. I mean, thats like something you'd see from, say, apple fanboys or windows fanboys or fanboys in general. Thats the issue I have here.  

[Oh yea, Ripster also used to praise laser etched keys -- until he found out the inexpensive scorpius M10 had them and the expensive Filcos did not have them - and then "suddenly" he started poo-pooing laser etched keys.  Is it any wonder I accuse him of Filco fanboyism?]

I dont mean to start anything up here again, I'll just point out these discrepencies from time to time if they add up over time.  I mean if you get to freely spin the advocacy, you have to expect pushback from time to time, am I right?
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: maxlugar on Fri, 20 November 2009, 14:58:28
You know BFF can stand for Best Friend Forever, but it can also easily respresent a vulgar term that would actually be more appropriate in the context in which it's geing used  :)

ripster doesn't descend into vulgarity at the first opportunity, he let's someone else do that for him.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 20 November 2009, 15:02:16
Quote from: maxlugar;134667
ripster doesn't descend into vulgarity at the first opportunity, he let's someone else do that for him.

Me.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 20 November 2009, 15:03:20
Quote from: ripster;134664
I'm not even going to even read your post Welly.   My doctor says it's bad for my blood pressure.

Now where is the FedX truck?
its not bad like you think, it's really nice, he basically says that we all have individual concerns and feelings towards keyboards, but that in the end, we all have a favorite.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 20 November 2009, 15:05:45
Quote from: AndrewZorn;134673
its not bad like you think, it's really nice, he basically says that we all have individual concerns and feelings towards keyboards, but that in the end, we all have a favorite.

The Reader's Digest condensed version.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: maxlugar on Fri, 20 November 2009, 15:07:12
Quote from: wellington1869;134661
This part I dont get. For a while now (ever since the topic of filco key wear came up, actually) ripster has been pretending that all printed keys are the same.   When of course he was the one who first pointed out to us that in fact, keys and key printing and key construction are very different based on manufacturing method used.

So for instance, above, where he equates Filco keys to M13 keys. I dont get it. Let me be clear:

Ripster, are you stating here that M13 keys get shiny within 2 weeks like Filco keys? That they have a clearcoat which comes off in a month or two like Filco keys? Or that the actual printing has the same durability as m13 keys?

Heck, even Webwit (your BFF) said that he'd "never" seen an M13 with worn keys -- and keep in mind, these are boards that are 15 years old now. Yea, he said "never" - so if you want to quibble, dont quote me, quote him. Its one of my great disappointments that you two, at that point, didnt "go at it". I would have liked to have seen that, instead, the BFF's politely moved on to other topics ;-D )

So just wondering if you could clarify. Because the way you "equate" other keys to filco keys, one gets the impression that you think the key experience with all of them is the same.  Its not the same, of course. And I dont know why you would want to repeatedly imply that they're the same. Except to try to "exonerate" Filco keys at any expense. Which means fanboyism if you ask me.

Rippy, I have nothing against you personally, please understand that. I've always said your contributions here are top notch (and unlike your BFF Webwit, you dont descend into vulgarity at the first opportunity).  But I have to protest when you "spin" your Filco advocacy a bit too much.  Thats all.

Nor do I have anything against Filco boards -- I merely want people to be able to speak candidly about them, not feel like we have to immediately start making excuses when we find something we dont like. I mean, thats like something you'd see from, say, apple fanboys or windows fanboys or fanboys in general. Thats the issue I have here.  

[Oh yea, Ripster also used to praise laser etched keys -- until he found out the inexpensive scorpius M10 had them and the expensive Filcos did not have them - and then "suddenly" he started poo-pooing laser etched keys.  Is it any wonder I accuse him of Filco fanboyism?]

I dont mean to start anything up here again, I'll just point out these discrepencies from time to time if they add up over time.  I mean if you get to freely spin the advocacy, you have to expect pushback from time to time, am I right?


Here, I'll raise Welly's BP for you:
Go Majestouch! Go Filco!
Two months and no wear issues on the FKBN104MC/EBs
No trasposition problems with the Zero (haven't done CC test)
And of course, not a single issue with the HHKB Pro 2 or Realforce 87U
Love the 23UBs, red HH Esc keys and multiple keyboard roofs, (even though they are open at the sides) and leather wrist rests
The only item I'm not enamored with is the Filco touchpad, but that was a stretch anyway.

Maybe Majestouch should consider distributing the TVS Gold to the US market.  Then he could cater to both the high and low end.  On the other hand, the TVS Gold might cannabilize a portion of the Filco sales.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: maxlugar on Fri, 20 November 2009, 15:09:45
Quote from: AndrewZorn;134673
its not bad like you think, it's really nice, he basically says that we all have individual concerns and feelings towards keyboards, but that in the end, we all have a favorite.


What are you , Welly;s official interpreter or are you just running interference for Welly ?  :)

Actually, the Cliff Notes version of some of Welly's posts would be helpful.
(as long as his BFF webwit doesn't mind)
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 20 November 2009, 15:11:14
Quote from: maxlugar;134678
What are you , Welly;s official interpreter or are you just running interference for Welly ?  :)

Actually, the Cliff Notes version of some of Welly's posts would be helpful.
(as long as his BFF webwit doesn't mind)

he gave me his unwanted fukka filco, as payment to summarize his posts and make them friendly
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: ch_123 on Fri, 20 November 2009, 15:15:10
I've had some terrible lettering wear on my Filco -

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9814/img3310l.jpg)

Oh wait, design feature =P
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 20 November 2009, 15:15:31
OK, I think Welly's had enough.  Let's not start getting mean-spirited here; it only adds fuel to the fire.  We already have enough gas cans around here.
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: maxlugar on Fri, 20 November 2009, 15:16:33
Quote from: AndrewZorn;134679
he gave me his unwanted fukka filco, as payment to summarize his posts and make them friendly


OK, at least you got something of (questionable) value for performing this civil service.

Actually the price went up by 5 or 6 bucks so you got a smokin' deal.

If Welly used it, please make sure you sanitize the keys with industrial grade Lysol cleaner.  He is known to have unnatural relationships with his keyboards.  (i.e. his former Topre)  Lysol has the added advantage of removing that annoying matte finish that is going to wear of anyway  :)
Title: The OFFICIAL "I Just Got My FILCO Blue Cherry Keyboard Thread".
Post by: Clickey on Tue, 13 September 2011, 23:16:00
Will you still tell me where you got those keycaps when I get my filco? I wasn't worried about key wear until I read this post. Oh yeah and finally I see some damn legos.