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Title: Re: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: HaaTa on Sun, 14 February 2010, 22:12:57
Awesome post, I learned something today. :)
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: vils on Sun, 14 February 2010, 22:38:54
Quote from: HaaTa;158371
Awesome post, I learned something today. :)


+1
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: D-EJ915 on Sun, 14 February 2010, 23:07:42
IBM's logo is timeless IMO, Apple's rainbow logo really was good as well.  I'm partial to DIGITAL's as well lol.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: bigpook on Mon, 15 February 2010, 04:46:49
good work ripster. I had no idea.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: trievalot on Mon, 15 February 2010, 05:37:19
now i want more IBM stuff!
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: Rajagra on Mon, 15 February 2010, 08:28:33
The striated effect of the IBM logo reflects how characters looked on early (low resolution) computer screens. Not sure if that was deliberate, but I bet it was an influence.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 15 February 2010, 12:01:26
I have to wait and take the test at home.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 15 February 2010, 16:24:35
Your logo makes me want to go break out my Atari 2600.  I like it, though, especially the colors.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: InSanCen on Mon, 15 February 2010, 16:42:21
Your design is mostly win webwit. Me likey.

The only thing that throws me is the "WW" logo's at the bottom. I think the second W is a bit... disjointed? It doesn't look like a W unless you think about it. I think it needs to be "bolder" (I'm not a designer as such, but I do some stuff for Family and Friends). Not sure I have the design vocabularly to express what I think.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: jaybee on Sat, 13 March 2010, 22:12:49
I spent an afternoon with Rand about 20 years ago, in his studio at his home in Connecticut, interviewing him about his IBM work, logos, graphic design and corporate identity. It was an interesting few hours, and as I recall, he showed me the presentation book he'd made for the Next logo (among other things).

Here's a little detail you might not realize about the IBM logo, although it won't surprise anyone who works in graphic design: there are two slightly different versions -- one for black or blue print on a white or light background, and another for 'reverse' use (white-on-black). The size and spacing of the bars is slightly different, and the fourth bar down in the M is one solid piece in the first version, but two separate pieces (breaking in the middle) in the reverse version.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 29 March 2010, 14:05:52
Quote from: jaybee;163841
...at his home in Connecticut...


That's where I live!
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: hyperlinked on Mon, 29 March 2010, 15:00:28
Quote from: Rajagra;158410
The striated effect of the IBM logo reflects how characters looked on early (low resolution) computer screens. Not sure if that was deliberate, but I bet it was an influence.


According to the IBM site, the stripes were to reflect "speed and dynamism."

http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/logo/logo_8.html

I think the popular perception of monitor and TV screens having vertical resolution stripes came later on, but then again, if you're a legendary designer, you see ahead of the curve.
Title: Re: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 30 March 2010, 17:33:15
Quote from: ripster

Somewhere near Harwinton if my GPS kung fu skills are up to snuff.

How did you figure that out?  Oh right, why would I even ask such a question of Ripster.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: kishy on Sun, 30 May 2010, 14:28:31
I recently say the I/eye used in some other company's TV commercial.

3 letters, I something something, I forget what it was...but it was symbols like the eye/bee/M
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: pfink on Sun, 30 May 2010, 15:25:59
Quote from: kishy;188277
I recently say the I/eye used in some other company's TV commercial.

3 letters, I something something, I forget what it was...but it was symbols like the eye/bee/M


Probably Lenscrafters:

(http://breezycreativedesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Eye-love-LC-Lenscrafters-logo.jpg)
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: kishy on Sun, 30 May 2010, 16:22:54
Quote from: pfink;188293
Probably Lenscrafters:

Show Image
(http://breezycreativedesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Eye-love-LC-Lenscrafters-logo.jpg)


Bingo.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: type_dancer on Sun, 30 May 2010, 22:13:41
Gah. I feel lame. Ripster commented on my Avatar in another thread and I was all like "Yah it was designed by the same guy who did the official IBM logo blah blah blah"

...... now I see this thread and I'm like doh. Should have known he knew!!! At least it was one of the few things I did already know before I found geekhack. Le sigh.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: type_dancer on Sun, 30 May 2010, 22:16:26
Oiy. Ripster commented on my avatar in another thread and I was all telling him how the guy who designed the official IBM logo did that one as well.

....... now I see this thread and it is like DOH I Should have known he knew that already. Heh, at least it is something I already knew before finding geekhack. Go me. :P
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: type_dancer on Sun, 30 May 2010, 22:30:24
Of course, now I want to find that mug. :D
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: EverythingIBM on Mon, 31 May 2010, 23:37:30
Quote from: ripster;188416
Send a PM with your address but no name so my wife doesn't get jealous and think I'm hitting on you.


Which translates from ripsterian to: "Give me your name and phone number" lol.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 01 June 2010, 12:52:38
Quote from: ripster;188656
She gave me her husbands name.

It's Mongo.


Any relation to Mingo?
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: ricercar on Fri, 04 June 2010, 14:21:34
Quote from: ripster;188714
But Jaco is who I really like

And he's dead.



> type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385">[/youtube]

Word of Mouth had no musician credits because the labels were arguing for primacy of guest artists on Jaco's label. But all the greats were there.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: chimera15 on Mon, 07 June 2010, 12:40:34
filco sounds like a gas station?  Philco is an old radio....

Couldn't he come up with a funny looking graphic for m? lol  Maybe that lady from James bond. lol
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: chimera15 on Mon, 07 June 2010, 16:41:36
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1268/4679650169_04ea44149c.jpg)


That's better.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 09 June 2010, 12:40:59
Don't call me "Honey," Babe.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 09 June 2010, 14:30:57
And, apparently, the best don't-link-to-our-image image.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: Pylon on Mon, 05 July 2010, 19:01:44
(http://www.goodlogo.com/images/logos/2557.gif)
My favorite logo of all time.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: kishy on Mon, 05 July 2010, 19:22:29
Heh, I always liked the Northwest logo as well.

But I only just now noticed the W is there too...

If you look at the Toyota logo you can see that every letter of the word 'TOYOTA' is in fact present in the logo. Can't believe I noticed that before NWA though.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: armenws on Fri, 09 July 2010, 23:22:03
5 star post dude.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: EverythingIBM on Fri, 09 July 2010, 23:54:17
Something is telling me that this thread isn't talking about Paul Rand anymore lol.

(http://definium.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/412c7fabd1206a57.jpg)

Look at that funny drawing behind Rand. Reminds me of Julius Fucik:
(http://www.eclassical.com/i/pictures/Composers/JuliusFucik.jpg)

Fucik has some of the most melodic music I've heard.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: Oqsy on Sat, 10 July 2010, 03:45:31
Careful with that name, sir.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: EverythingIBM on Sat, 10 July 2010, 14:47:19
Quote from: Oqsy;201248
Careful with that name, sir.


Well it actually sounds like "foo-chick" (фучик), but the idiot who transliterated it, didn't do a good job.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: kip69 on Sat, 23 October 2010, 11:03:33
I am assuming you all have got this movie playing right now eh :)

Logorama (http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/02/09/watch-the-oscar-nominated-short-film-logorama/)
Sorry, can't find one to embed.

And this is a great thread Rip.  But no digs at OCN?  ;)
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: instantkamera on Sat, 23 October 2010, 12:53:14
15/20 ... if I had thought harder Im sure Edison and Chavez would have come to me, but I've never seen Ted Turner that young and have no idea who Maria Callas is tbh.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: muchadoaboutnothing on Sat, 23 October 2010, 13:38:55
Quote from: ripster;237705
Uh oh.

I Reddited this and it's now 2 Geekhack members and 315 guests viewing the thread.

Sorry for the slowdown Geekhackers.


Lot of lurkers on /r/todayilearned, it seems.

Quote from: Geekhack forums
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 347 (2 members and 345 guests)  


Trying to crash Geekhack?

ಠ_ಠ
 
EDIT
Quote from: geekhack forums
Most users ever online was 545, 1 Minute Ago at 18:43.


Confirmed.

EDIT 2: While reddit is swamping us, I'll share another interesting IBM story: the uphill battle to get the trackpoint tip red (http://www.petergolden.com/Articles/ThinkPad-1(EB-PAG).htm).

Quote
Red badge of novelty

One final change made to the TrackPoint was suggested by Sapper. The tip of Selker's and Rutledge's pointing stick had been black, a color that got lost in the black ThinkPad keyboard. Sapper said, "Let it sing," and the tip was changed to red, which brought about a closing act of corporate silliness rivaled only by Abbott and Costello trying to decide who's on first.

Hardy explains: "IBM had a cherished standard which said that the only thing that could be red on a product was an emergency power switch, those enormous switches on the mainframes. To have the little TrackPoint tip subjected to this same standard was absurd, but, given the situation at IBM then, we knew the red dot wouldn't get through the system. So we toned it down a shade and called it magenta."

Soon afterward, Designer Yamazaki received a call from an IBM standards watchdog, who wanted to know why manufacturing had produced these tiny red parts.

Yamazaki said, "They're not red. They're magenta."

"No," replied the watchdog. "They're red."

The two men battled back and forth, then phoned Hardy to adjudicate the argument.

"They aren't red, they're magenta," Hardy assured the standards overseer, which led to a rambling, philosophical debate on the ontology of redness. Still, the watchdog held his position--no red allowed, not even if you called it magenta.

Hardy suggested that they take the argument to a higher level, confident that the watchdog would shrink from continuing such a trivial discussion with senior management. That was how it played out. The tip kept its magenta classification, and in the coming years, with the introduction of each new ThinkPad, the color of the rubber tip was increased a shade until it finally became a bright red symbol of the brand.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: kps on Tue, 26 October 2010, 21:08:04
“The evolution of the logo”

(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13174&stc=1&d=1288145165) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mwichary/3250012320/in/set-72157603768627712/)

Photo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mwichary/3250012320/in/set-72157603768627712/) © Marcin Wichary; reproduced under Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: didjamatic on Mon, 01 November 2010, 10:33:10
Woah!  He rocked a belt in 2009!  I never noticed.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: zefrer on Mon, 01 November 2010, 11:06:26
Not to **** on your legos or anything but the phrase "Now before IBM became a boring Service and Software company they were the hipster Google of the day" is completely incorrect.

IBM for most of the 20th century was the Microsoft of the 90s-present. Loathed and despised, the corporate devil. Men with impeccable hair in dark grey suits, white shirts and tie knocking on people's doors singing a song about how IBM is awesome (http://www.etypewriters.com/ibmsongs.htm) while trying to sell them stuff.

If anything the IBM of today is the hipster one.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: zefrer on Mon, 01 November 2010, 11:41:32
Mumble mumble mumble blah blah legos blah.

Random pic
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13261&stc=1&d=1288629537)

Thanks for the animated GIF induced seizure btw, much appreciated.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: kps on Mon, 01 November 2010, 11:53:40
Quote from: ripster;241100
Sorry, no mug, mousemats, or THINK signs.  Check  Ebay for those.


You have steel rebus mugs. And you have THINK notepads; we don't get those, or the rebus T-shirts, in Canada.

But our boogie bots are blue, while yours are just grey. How can you be Big Blue if you're grey?

(http://logostore-globalid.ca/EN/images/products_large/IB01900.jpg)
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: zefrer on Mon, 01 November 2010, 12:05:42
Quote from: zefrer;241120
Mumble mumble mumble blah blah legos blah.

Random pic
Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13261&stc=1&d=1288629537)



Right, that's what I said.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: itlnstln on Mon, 01 November 2010, 12:53:01
Damn.  His/her smile is as wide as the logo.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: Lanx on Mon, 01 November 2010, 16:06:44
I keep seeing this thread and think it's a political one
(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2010/11/01/image6992494x_370x278.jpg)
Rand Paul protester girl being head stomped.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: zefrer on Tue, 02 November 2010, 06:19:46
You'd think that people that want to see what's on reddit would, like, go on reddit?
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: instantkamera on Tue, 02 November 2010, 06:28:50
Quote from: zefrer;241473
You'd think that people that want to see what's on reddit would, like, go on reddit?


there's a rip(ster) in your logic.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 02 November 2010, 07:02:17
Republicans (around here) are selfish, ignorant *******s.  They make us the laughing stock of the world.  There, I said it.  I really need to move out of Texas.  It's too bad that all the other states with no snow are also red.  Friggin' old people.

With all the election stuff going on, I really needed to get that off my chest.  You would think Obama, personally, mugged these people in streets and raped their grandma, or something.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: zefrer on Tue, 02 November 2010, 13:16:37
When next you troll ask yourself this - Who trolls the trollers?

I do.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: itlnstln on Tue, 02 November 2010, 13:22:16
The Shadow knows.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: zefrer on Tue, 02 November 2010, 13:24:40
The Shadow knows all.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: zefrer on Tue, 02 November 2010, 13:29:19
Quote from: zefrer;241120
Mumble mumble mumble blah blah legos blah.

Random pic
Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13261&stc=1&d=1288629537)


Look familiar?
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 03 November 2010, 02:41:22
looks like head stomper is gonna win.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: itlnstln on Wed, 03 November 2010, 07:25:22
They took the house but not the Senate.  I'm looking forward to 4 years of absolute jack **** happening.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: keyboardlover on Wed, 03 November 2010, 07:56:28
Quote from: itlnstln
They took the house but not the Senate.  I'm looking forward to 4 years of absolute jack **** happening.


That pretty much describes the last 2 years..and don't you mean the next 2 years?
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: EverythingIBM on Tue, 07 December 2010, 22:36:50
Don't forget about the 15 striped logo from france:
(http://ibmcollectables.com/strf_lngc_ibm.gif)
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: mr_a500 on Sun, 03 April 2011, 14:53:27
Quote from: zefrer;241120
Mumble mumble mumble blah blah legos blah.

Random pic
Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13261&stc=1&d=1288629537)



Holy crap! I've never seen another post that so remarkably captures ripster's posting style.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: kill will on Sun, 03 April 2011, 16:51:39
Ibm
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: quadibloc on Fri, 22 April 2011, 16:04:11
Quote from: ripster;242057
Rand Paul the evil mirror universe version of Paul Rand WINS!
And in 2012, the Republicans are going to take the Presidency... despite having Nehemiah Scudder as their candidate.

I liked G. W. Bush. I liked John McCain even better, before he started doing Herbert Hoover impressions. But Obama has proven in office to be a moderate and sensible Democrat, while it looks like the Republicans are going to go with their lunatic fringe in 2012. Obama isn't going to have the perfect storm that got him elected working for him this time... and so I fear for your Republic and the world.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: woody on Thu, 28 April 2011, 08:03:35
Acronyms 101:

IBM = Italian Branch of Mafia
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: The Solutor on Fri, 29 April 2011, 09:26:08
Quote from: woody;338592
Acronyms 101:

IBM = Italian Branch of Mafia

 

Not "Indians Believed in Mayflower" ? :rolleyes:
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: Pretendo on Tue, 11 October 2011, 20:35:59
Too bad IBM didn't go with Rand for their PRofessional OFfice System logo
[ATTACH=CONFIG]28434[/ATTACH]

...yes, I just realized that this thread was dead for awhile and only recently got resurrected.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: Ekaros on Wed, 09 November 2011, 16:09:06
Now I have a fabric bag with IBM logo, blue on black...
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: jkercado on Sat, 24 December 2011, 01:24:05
As an amateur graphic designer and a fan of design, I can say that Paul Rand is one of my heroes. His work is so clean, uncluttered, and focused. Bold graphics, simple flat colors schemes, lots of personality.
Title: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: clickclack on Sat, 24 December 2011, 04:23:06
Thanks for the link ripster, that was an interesting and enjoyable read.
So sad that they have both passed on.

=)
Title: Re: Re: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: vils on Tue, 25 September 2012, 07:12:02
Just bought a framed IBM-poster from 1990.
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x221/vilsjin/DSC00648.jpg)
Title: Re: Paul Rand - The Designer of the IBM Logo
Post by: peachesenregalia on Sat, 29 September 2012, 09:14:38
Paul Rand box from a 1960's IBM dictaphone:

(http://i.imgur.com/qm4I1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/sC8YX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Y7lF7.jpg)