No, no. You don't get it. We make fun of the OTHER GUYS
On my Realforce 87U I only appear to get it on the 6th key pressed down. For example, pressing CTRL-zasxd is fine. As soon as I press something else I get that letter and 1 to 3 ghosted letters. CTRL-zasxdc gives me CTRL-zasxdcw.
At that point I kinda lost interest. I only have 5 fingers on my left hand you see......
Ouch. Does this happen with cherry blue filco with NKRO over USB?
Ghosting on the topre. While this has no relevance in real world usage, it sucks to see this exists.
Anyone notice how you can get ghosting over USB on NKRO boards? Try this:
(Left) Control, alt, and shift. Try some 4-6 key combos with Z, X, A, S, Q, W etc. You will notice some strange key behavior -- particularly ghosting. And I mean the correct use of the term. Keys you did not press will be pressed. Of course, the same keyboard using PS/2 behaves normally, with absolutely no ghosting.
I think I read about this issue a while ago, but I haven't actually been able to fully test the issue myself until recently.
But as Ripster said, this really is not that big of an issue.
I like that most of them are getting widely varying results. I suspect that many are not holding down both shift keys, don't know how to type, don't know how to spell, are drunk, are REALLY drunk, stoned, or are actually gaming the stupid test to appear leet.
Blah, this is why I really don't like mega sites... too low of a signal to noise ratio.
I mentioned the problem here (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=139649&postcount=12). I get the same problem on my Realforce 87u, HHKB Pro and DAS III.Maybe, just maybe, this is a driver issue in Microsoft's OS. Ever tried it on Linux?
It's as if USB has a "memory effect" problem. If you start playing with different keys the original problem clears itself, but if you repeat the test it happens again consistently.
Lol, Muchadoaboutnothing tries to stem the flow. (http://www.overclock.net/computer-peripherals/732429-see-how-good-your-keyboard-98.html)
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Model F through a Blue Cube.
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Hey, I would like to apologize on behalf of OCN for GTFOs behavior, but come on, calling us idiots because we don't really know much about keyboards is about as nice as us calling you guys and gals idiots simply because you (might) not have any idea of how IDE and SATA work.
Hey, if they use foul language on us, I will be rude to them. Respect is mutual.
Haha. Awesome. But I couldn't leave well alone...
Hey, I would like to apologize on behalf of OCN for GTFOs behavior, but come on, calling us idiots because we don't really know much about keyboards is about as nice as us calling you guys and gals idiots simply because you (might) not have any idea of how IDE and SATA work.
Good work! We know now that it isn't perfect!
Hey, I would like to apologize on behalf of OCN for GTFOs behavior
Ripster is now trolling an entire forum from Geekhack. What's next?
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Interesting modes of transport you have there in Wales Insancen.
You would think that thing would get great mileage on those downhills...all that weight!
That would break a rather elementary law of Physics. Everything falls at the same rate.
I think the real troll is the Logitech G11 Product Manager.
He has been planting this test ALL OVER THE INTERNET in an attempt to boost sales. If I followed that thread that's what I would buy.
I thought you knew OCN members can't read?
At least WE are more mature around here at Geekhack.Show Image(http://scootwan.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/the_hangover_chow.png)
Nah, I give up trying to stop the flow.Don't give up!
That would involve two wires running from each switch, and a controller that can handle 100+ seperate inputs... Many times more complicated and expensive than the established alternatives for NKRO.
Can't keyboards be made so each button is assigned its own signal?
Instead of the matrix overlap thing.
Or is that very expensive?
Can't keyboards be made so each button is assigned its own signal?Believe it or not, someone patented that idea. I believe he described that he'd use a couple of FPGAs to process the signals.
Instead of the matrix overlap thing.
Or is that very expensive?
On a side note, Geekhack = full of immature idiots? Look I can generalize too.Now I would prefer attention-deficit keyboard nutheads, but that would work too.
You've just acquired a $200 keyboard which consists of a $10 keyboard with a screen on it. Well done.
On a related note, I am the heir to the Nigerian throne. If you send me $10,000 I will be able to share my family's lost wealth with you.
EDIT: This thread? Wow. (http://www.overclock.net/computer-peripherals/741160-just-returned-my-g15-ordered-g19.html) I thought we got off base sometimes.
BTW, lmnop... you mechanical keyboard troll you...
I posted 2 meals and a fact which is good contribution.(http://images.nymag.com/images/2/daily/2009/05/20090522_jacques1_560x375.jpg)
mechanical keyboards use higher quality plastics, electronics and switches. you pay more for a better product which isn't the case for rubber dome keyboards.
The power that comes from HEAVILY moderated forums. He's just mad I insulted his bouncing fat girl Avatar.
Manyak gets the final word. (http://www.overclock.net/9500604-post4107.html)
Lol. I give up.
Manyak gets the final word. (http://www.overclock.net/9500604-post4107.html)
The power that comes from HEAVILY moderated forums. He's just mad I insulted his bouncing fat girl Avatar. :biggrin1:Show Image(http://knowyourmeme.com/i/30129/original/fat_kid_ipod.gif?1260402599)
Moderators suck, and that forum sucks, so I congratulate you for combining those qualities.
Moderators suck, and that forum sucks, so I congratulate you for combining those qualities.
Lol. I haven't logged in there in a while...Show Image(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=10521&stc=1&d=1275521455)
It starts again?
At Hardforum this time. (http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1523154)
I have faith in the Hardforum guys over OCN.
Well, since I've been banned there I obviously haven't been hanging around there much lately. ;-)
I'm in! (http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1035789381&postcount=47) Bhtooefr and nonmouse have been active I see.
Well, the mature place to hang out is here.Where's that quote from?QuoteAfter I bought...
Alright, I've updated the first post to include the CAPS lock as some people have requested.*Facepalm*
Confirming 100% accuracy for the Logitech G19! This seems to be a major increase from the G15 line. I'm glad to see my upgrade was worth it in yet another way! (http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1035793115&postcount=79)
Nonmouse n00bie, 2 DaysQuoteOriginally Posted by bhtooefr
This test is more accurate if you turn on scroll lock, and hold down the caps lock key while doing it.
Turning on scroll lock keeps transient voltages from scrolling through the keyboard, making a more accurate test.
I thought that it was more accurate if you alternated the right and left shift button with each keystroke, with the CAPSLOCK key on?
I like that one.
P.S. Yes, send your Lifebook back and get a real computer :P
this makes OCN Registered Users approximately TWELVE TIMES STUPIDER
Keep em occupied with these tests while we wait for Raj.
holding down the right Shift and/or Ctrl keys stops the inverted T direction keys from working well. E.g. Shift-Up-Right fails, Ctrl-Down-Left fails
They'll definitely appreciate my taste for technology even more than you guys do.
I like that most of them are getting widely varying results. I suspect that many are not holding down both shift keys, don't know how to type, don't know how to spell, are drunk, are REALLY drunk, stoned, or are actually gaming the stupid test to appear leet.
The sole purpose of this thread is to make fun of the Overclock.net guys (and lmnop) because that's just the kind of person I am.:evil:
Somebody go straighten them out. Wait until they hit 100 pages first.
With all due respect, I wouldn't say that judging an entire forum that is specifically overclocking/gaming orientated on their knowledge on keyboards is fair.
That'd be like me coming here and assessing you on the effect of the PCI-E frequency when trying to use a high BCLK on an i7 CPU, then calling you stupid if you didn't fully understand.
OCN Member here by the way, who knows very little about keyboards.
Again, the 'with all due respect' thing of course...
The problem isn't that they're "doing it wrong" or "failing to understand". Nobody should be made fun of for that.
The problem is that while doing it wrong and/or failing to understand, they are also claiming that they are doing it right and/or understanding completely.
In order for your example to fit, we'd need to be claiming without prompting that we already do fully understand such timings.
I can't view the thread any more (it's been deleted for whatever reason) so I have absolutely no idea if the majority of the OCN userbase claimed to fully understand the subject at hand :o
But I see what you're saying. It's just that your... descriptions were a bit strong. It's not necessarily their fault that they're ignorant on the matter - there's a lot of misinformation floating around the internet, and they may have been told by someone at some point that what they're doing incorrectly is in fact correct, or something like that.
Maybe I'm just overly-sensitive because OCN is my home forum, or maybe I just wouldn't particularly like to see a huge group of people being generalised/branded for their ignorance on a specific topic.
The problems with the so-called NKRO test were pointed out numerous times in the thread. OCNers kept printing TEH QUIK BRN FX HUMPED TEH LUSTY RED DG- again and again and again...
Perhaps they didn't read the posts?
I mean, it was a fairly large thread; I doubt many people read even 10% of it, so there's a good chance that a lot of people didn't read those posts, and only posted their results, then ****ed off.
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I feel good now knowing my iq is high enough for me to make a sandwich.
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The one idiocy of OCN I couldn't get over was that they had swear words censored and they would infract you for them. So literally, typing **** is an infractable offense on OCN.
Learn to read the ToS. :rolleyes:
Drop the holier than thou, I had 598 rep before you were out of your diapers.
Besides, my comment is explaining why I think the ToS is stupid, explain how your statement provides any resolution to the problem?
It doesn't.
Geekhack has some awesome google search priority. lol I'm often surprised at random things I can search for that ends up with one of my posts from a half a year ago here. lol
By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.
Since every keyboard with moving parts of any kind is mechanical...well...whatever.
If I was at OCN I'd be trolling Geekhackers arguing about nomenclature.
Ripster, why don't you mind your damn business instead of trying to put people down again. If anything provide instructions. This thread demonstrates why you aren't the GREAT keyboard expert. Congrats.
Ripster, why don't you mind your damn business instead of trying to put people down again. If anything provide instructions. This thread demonstrates why you aren't the GREAT keyboard expert. Congrats.
Actually this thread is another indication of why I am Number One. NKRO was a real mess here before the Wikis.
===UPDATE===
Some people have replied saying that you should be using CAPS LOCK held down as well to get the most out of this test. If you want to update your tests, please try it again with CAPS LOCK as well.
A lot of today's generation has a problem with the concept of minimum and maximum. See this revised version at HardForum (http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1627829).Well at least they're evolving, right? (Is there an ape pic for that?)
Where did HiroPro go? Reminded me of Hamblet.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!OP is a vendor rep. Disturbing?
It's BAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1168318/try-this-with-your-keyboard
Damn - impressive. >200 posts in <6 hours.
Mods, please don't erase it this time.
It actually can give you clues to the membrane layout.
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Maybe our thread commenting on their thread hitting 1000 will hit 1000.
I have a dell AT101W plugged into a blue cube. With both shifts, this is what I get-
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Ibm Model M. Meh! I like it still. Perhaps it is a problem with my motherboard? (@ Start79 with the working IBM)