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Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: bugfix on Sat, 08 January 2011, 10:35:37
My Enter key has only one Cherry switch under it...

(DAS Model S)
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: 7bit on Sat, 08 January 2011, 10:39:44
Quote from: ripster;275157
Remember one Geekhacker complaining about their bigass Enter key being a bit stiff.
...


Great cost-efficient idea!

If this keyboard is ever resold, just put your ANSI or ISO-layout key caps on.
Much better than having 2 incompatible versions!
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: bpiphany on Sat, 08 January 2011, 11:17:21
What's ISO in that layout? To me it just looks like the worst combo possible of ISO and ANSI... I would have understood if there was a switch in the position immideately to the right of '" and another with stabilizers vertically on the right side. This doesn't make any sense at all.

Edit: Well that wouldn't work either of course =P Bigass enter keys like that makes little sense at all I guess.
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: Soarer on Sat, 08 January 2011, 11:29:17
Quote from: ripster;275157
Most ISO keyboards have a different arrangement like this.
Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=13021&stc=1&d=1287168321)

That is not ISO, nor is the Ducky.

Quote from: ripster;275157
or just a hole and a peg like this
Show Image
(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6741&stc=1&d=1261945730)

That is.

I have a Dolch with a bigass enter which had two switches, I just removed the dummy one.
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: sixty on Sat, 08 January 2011, 11:33:44
Cherry used this method too on their "US" version of the MX2100:

(http://img5.pcpop.com/ArticleImages/500x375/0/644/000644442.jpg)

The enter key has 2 switches underneath, one of them missing the spring. Works out quite well.

And yeah, as Soarer just mentioned.. that is the "obscure Asian-American huge ass L enter layout" and not ISO.
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: Minskleip on Sat, 08 January 2011, 11:35:10
He can desolder all the switches, open up the uppermost of the big ass-enter and remove some of the inards and make it less stiff!
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: fssbzz on Sat, 08 January 2011, 15:37:30
Quote from: ripster;275157
Thanks to the detective work by Fssbzz who asked at another keyboard forum.


actually i asked Jimmeh  (http://geekhack.org/member.php?u=3035)from Geekhack tru Geekhack pm and forward it to you. lol
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: Findecanor on Sat, 08 January 2011, 17:19:26
You have already posted about this using better images (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=253115&postcount=45), Ripster.
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: Pylon on Sat, 08 January 2011, 18:03:07
It looks oddly cluttered, though that serifed Chinese font seems to give it an odd character (no pun intended). Reminds me of Confucius.
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: fssbzz on Sat, 08 January 2011, 18:27:39
i wonder if change that BIGASS enter to regular size enter and replace it with the "\" key cap on ducky 1008?
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: laden3 on Sat, 08 January 2011, 18:40:26
Quote from: fssbzz;275416
i wonder if change that BIGASS enter to regular size enter and replace it with the "\" key cap on ducky 1008?


Taiwan already has that... a few days ago...
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: quadibloc on Sat, 08 January 2011, 18:44:42
Quote from: ripster;275408
I have no idea why 3 "extra" character, do you?
On the upper left on the keys, in red, is the character set known as "Bopomofo", or the "National Alphabet". This is an alternative way to express Chinese phonetically, instead of using our Roman alphabet to type in Pinyin.

The lower right of the keys contains the characters assigned to the keys when typing text using the DaYi input method. That is a popular and efficient commercial input method for Chinese which allows typing characters based on their appearance.

The lower left of the keys contains the characters assigned to the keys when typing text using the Zhuyin Fuhao input method. This is another method for typing in characters based on how they look; it's the most common one which has been around for quite some time.
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: fssbzz on Sat, 08 January 2011, 18:47:39
Quote from: laden3;275426
Taiwan already has that... a few days ago...


mind explain it more clear with some source?
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: laden3 on Sat, 08 January 2011, 18:56:59
Quote from: fssbzz;275435
mind explain it more clear with some source?


... search pchome, told u to join the discussion group...
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: fssbzz on Sat, 08 January 2011, 18:58:39
Quote from: laden3;275441
... search pchome, told u to join the discussion group...


sigh. you expect me to type english in PCHOME, just to search for that enter key?
well that's ok.
not really important to me.
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: laden3 on Sat, 08 January 2011, 20:03:05
go to google, search "world pchome", then search "ducky". The words in " " are Chinese characters, so, it's better to copy n paste.

The keyboard is kinda expensive compare to the one with L shaped enter.
Title: Duckys - I Don't Recommend Their ISO Layout
Post by: Moogle Stiltzkin on Sat, 08 January 2011, 22:41:24
the dk-9008 i got came with a small enter. Not this L shape enter in the picture you showed :/

Also Cherry keyboards also have those cherry stabilizers but i didn't hear complaints about them. So what makes Ducky different from those ?

Pressing down on the stabilizer keys seem fine to me, and has no wobble to it.

There is of course a different feel (some stiffness) between the enter vs  typing  on the smaller keys , but that seems fine to me :X

Anywayz i liked the cherry stabilizers because i could easily replace those keys without much hassle or worry about breaking the keyboard.